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Apple Bans iFixit Repair App From App Store After Apple TV Teardown

alphadogg writes: iFixit, the fix-it-yourself advocate for users of Apple, Google and other gear, has had its repair manual app banned from Apple's App Store after it conducted an unauthorized teardown of Apple TV and Siri remote. iFixit blogged "we're a teardown and repair company; teardowns are in our DNA -- and nothing makes us happier than figuring out what makes these gadgets tick. We weighed the risks, blithely tossed those risks over our shoulder, and tore down the Apple TV anyway." iFixit does still have Windows and Android apps, and has no immediate plans to rewrite its Apple app to attempt being reinstated.

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  1. Hay Apple!! by TheAngryCat · · Score: 1, Informative

    It will be a very cold day in HELL before I buy any of your crap products.

  2. iFixit blog link by Imabug · · Score: 4, Informative

    bad link to the iFixit blog link

    here's the correct one
    http://ifixit.org/blog/7401/if...

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  3. Re:Unauthorized Teardown by mccalli · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple aren't taking legal action against iFixIt either, they're revoking their development account for breach of terms of conditions. iFixIt has the right to tear it down and Apple has the right to revoke the account as a result.

  4. Re:Unauthorized teardown by Lothsahn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yep. If you buy an object, you have every right to take it apart.

    While I agree with the above statement (and some of your others), they didn't buy the devices. It was a developer preview provided to them under NDA. I think iFixit is clearly in the wrong here.

    From the article:
    The developer unit we disassembled was sent to us by Apple. Evidently, they didn’t intend for us to take it apart. But we’re a teardown and repair company; teardowns are in our DNA—and nothing makes us happier than figuring out what makes these gadgets tick. We weighed the risks, blithely tossed those risks over our shoulder, and tore down the Apple TV anyway.

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  5. Re:Unauthorized teardown by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Informative

    No it isn't. Apple LENT them a unit, and they tore it down. If I lend you a lawnmower, and with out my permission (unauthorised) you pull it apart, then I'm going to punish you too.

    If iFixit waited till they could buy their own in store, then tore that down, then there wouldn't be a problem.

  6. Re:Unauthorized teardown by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, Apple LENT them one. Review units are not gifts.

  7. Re:Unauthorized teardown by nine-times · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yep. If you buy an object, you have every right to take it apart.

    This situation is complicated by the fact that it's a pre-release unit provided to developers who signed NDAs.

  8. Re:What NDA? by jerk · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they are not. At the moment you can only buy one if you are a registered developer and are willing to sign an NDA.

    Not even that. They held a lottery for registered developers and gave the winning developers a developer kit. As a registered developer who was not selected for the lottery, I cannot even buy an early-access unit.

    iFixIt signed up for that lottery and was picked to receive a developer kit. I remember when I signed up for the same kit, I did a very cursory skimming of the NDA and it was pretty explicitly stated that I wasn't allowed to publicly publish pictures or even publicly discuss the unit/software.

  9. Clarifications: by Schnapple · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary is pretty bad on this one.

    Right after the Apple TV 4 (ATV4) was officially announced, Apple put a form on their Developer's site to give some of them away to developers. These are pre-release units, and the packaging on them even says "Developer's Edition" or something on it. There was a (since pulled) eBay auction showing the packaging.

    Part of the agreement in getting this unit was an NDA which stipulated, amongst other things, that you can't take it apart.

    iFixit got an ATV4 as part of the giveaway and decided to violate the NDA and get an exclusive article in the process. Since the developer program was what they used to get the ATV4, the developer program is what they were kicked out of. As a result their iOS app got yanked as well.

    Several people have noted that their iOS app hadn't been updated in years (may still have been on the 3.5" screen) and so the app itself isn't much of a loss. The summary says something about being "rewritten" but that doesn't make any sense - if iFixit were to get another developer account they could just put the same app up again from the same source code. The content of the app is not what was offensive to Apple, it was the NDA violation. It may need to be upgraded for modern phones (i.e., be adaptive to the iPhone 6/6+ screen sizes) but it doesn't need to be rewritten in order to adhere to Apple's policies.

    iFixit entered into an agreement with Apple that had consequences. It violated that agreement and so it's suffering the consequences. Which it knew would happen and it didn't care about. And since it's an old app that's being pulled it's not much of a loss to them, not compared to the exclusive early article and coverage this stunt's consequences has given them.

    But to clarify for everyone, this wasn't a review unit, it wasn't on loan, it was a unit Apple gave them and other developers in order to develop for it early before the actual thing is released. And really, a number of developers didn't get these units and so to some extent the idea that iFixit got one not intending to write an app for it but instead just want to tear it down for page clicks and ad impressions is sort of offensive. If they had waited for the thing to be in stores and bought one retail and then tore it apart they would be in the clear.

  10. Re:Nice speculation. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Informative
    Did you read the article? iFixit admits this:

    "The developer unit we disassembled was sent to us by Apple. Evidently, they didn’t intend for us to take it apart. But we’re a teardown and repair company; teardowns are in our DNA—and nothing makes us happier than figuring out what makes these gadgets tick. We weighed the risks, blithely tossed those risks over our shoulder, and tore down the Apple TV anyway."

    iFixit knew that Apple would not be happy with them disassembling it but did it anyway.

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  11. Re:Break The NDA by PhunkySchtuff · · Score: 4, Informative

    What happened was that iFixit broke the NDA by posting the pics before the device was released. Apple then cancelled their developer account, which as they also used that developer account for their App, had the knock-on effect of pulling their app from the App Store

    http://ifixit.org/blog/7401/if...