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10 Confirmed Dead In Shooting at Oregon's Umpqua Community College

CNN and other sources report that an attacker, now in custody, shot and killed a reported ten people, and wounded another 20, at Oregon's Umpqua Community College, about three hours south of Portland, and described by CNN as "technically a gun-free zone." Students are being evacuated to a nearby fairgrounds, and local authorities advise anyone to avoid the area of the college. Wikipedia editors are also quickly compiling information about the attack. More news on the attack is still breaking; expect updates here.

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  1. Re:Here we go again by SumDog · · Score: 5, Informative

    A few? Dude have you looked at http://www.dayssincethelastmassshooting.com/history/

    We haven't made it out of the double digits since 2014!

  2. Re:Gun-free zone? by dywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's why the Onion's Satire just reads like more sad news these days.
    Year old, but continually appropriate:

    ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

    http://www.theonion.com/articl...

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  3. Re:Gun-free zone? by mi · · Score: 5, Informative

    No?

    Yes. The campuses — including this one, the public schools are all legally gun-free. A pop-tart eaten to the shape of a pistol is enough for a kid to be kicked out.

    That cinema, where "a joker" killed 12 people — that movie theater was not closest to his house, but it was the only one within a 20-minute drive, that declared itself "gun-free".

    In denial much?

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  4. Re:Gun-free zone? by Faust6 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Right, in the world. Amongst developed nations, it's certainly number 1 in that sense, by miles and miles.

  5. Re: Gun-free zone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What about those taking places on military bases? Those are technically gun-filled zones.

    Wrong. They are not allowed to carry on base. Weapons are locked away in storage. Soldiers on base are defenseless against these types of attacks, which is why they are so effective.

  6. Re: Gun-free zone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What about those taking places on military bases? Those are technically gun-filled zones.

    Actually, they're not. Firearms are locked in the arms room unless training is taking place. All ammo is locked in a different area. Every round is accounted for.

    You are also not allowed to have firearms on post for day to day things (personal), those have to be registered with post security.

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  7. Re:People like you are the problem by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    The answer is less guns, not more.

    I'm sorry, but I can't let such words go unchallenged.

    The answer is fewer guns ;)

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  8. Re:People like you are the problem by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is flat out wrong. High school kids should not be able to access automatic firearms for which you should have specialized training to use in the first place.

    Your comment implies a lack of understanding about guns in general.

    I have found, not always, but often, that anti-gunners don't actually know that much about guns.

    Your "automatic firearms" comment is a bit of an issue... Do you mean "select-fire" weapons? Semi-automatic weapons? What?

    And what "specialized training" is required to use an AR-15 rifle vs. a hunting rifle vs. a handgun vs a shotgun?

    If I knew I was going to be shot, I'd much rather be shot by an AR-15 than by most hunting rifles. The single round from a hunting rifle is likely to drop me dead to the floor, while I could survive most 5.56mm rounds that don't hit a vital organ.

    BTW, I owned a gun in high school, a .22 rifle that I owned since I was 8 years old when I was given it for my birthday. I've been shooting since then, having learned first at summer camp then at gun ranges later on.

    My 9 year old son has his own rifle already and my daughter has one waiting for them. There is nothing scary or dangerous about that, because they respect the weapons and have seen what they do and have a respect for life that too many people lack these days.

    And yes, both rifles are locked up, they can't get them out when they want to of course, but they are theirs to use at the range and to take with them when they leave home.

  9. Re:Gun-free zone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    here's the guy announcing the shooting...
    (sorry for hijacking the thread)

  10. Re:Gun-free zone? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 4, Informative

    > the homicide rate in Australia is almost exactly the same before and after the ban. This has been well debunked. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/... According to the Australian Institute of Criminology, a government agency, the number of homicides in Australia did increase slightly in 1997 and peaked in 1999, but has since declined to the lowest number on record in 2007, the most recent year for which official figures are available.

    Yeah, that debunking has been well-debunked too... violent crime has been decreasing in all first world countries, and using other countries as a control shows that Australia's violent crime is higher than it should be.

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