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10 Confirmed Dead In Shooting at Oregon's Umpqua Community College

CNN and other sources report that an attacker, now in custody, shot and killed a reported ten people, and wounded another 20, at Oregon's Umpqua Community College, about three hours south of Portland, and described by CNN as "technically a gun-free zone." Students are being evacuated to a nearby fairgrounds, and local authorities advise anyone to avoid the area of the college. Wikipedia editors are also quickly compiling information about the attack. More news on the attack is still breaking; expect updates here.

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  1. Re: Gun-free zone? by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Exercised restraint due to the large crowd.

    This is a good point that gets overlooked a lot.

    You'd be a complete fool to try and return fire against a target that you have not identified in a crowd. You're just as likely to add to the problem as to solve it, and even might end up being mistaken for the active shooter yourself.

    I have many guns, I sometimes carry a gun (I have a CHL in Texas). I would never, ever, ever draw my gun and fire at someone unless I had a clear and open line of fire, I was 100% sure of my target, and I was directly saving lives by stopping someone who was clearly intent on killing innocent people.

    If there are other people either in front of or behind him, around him, or I'm unsure of the situation, I would not draw and fire.

    I'm both legally and morally responsible for every round I put downrange, I would never wish to place an innocent in harms way.

    I own and carry guns responsibly, I am not "Rambo", and real life is NOT a movie.

  2. Re:Description of Shooter by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You left out WHITE... Most of these idiots are white.

    Actually, not. It turns out non-white, non-Asian, people are (currently in the US) more prone to mass murder, both offenders as a percentage of their population and as a victim-count per-capita of offender's group's population.

    But their victims are more often also non-white, non-Asian, and the attacks generally "aren't news". (When was the last time you heard the national media do a big news event on a drive-by or other mass shooting in the poorer residential areas of Chicago, Springfield, New York City, Philadelphia, or DC?) It's another example of how black (or Chicano, etc.) lives DON'T matter - to the news media.

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