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East Texas Judge Throws Out 168 Patent Cases

Earthquake Retrofit writes: Ars Technica is reporting that an East Texas judge has thrown out 168 patent cases in one fell swoop. The judge's order puts the most litigious patent troll of 2014, eDekka LLC, out of business. The ruling comes from a surprising source: U.S. District Judge Rodney Gilstrap, the East Texas judge who has been criticized for making life extra-difficult for patent defendants. Gilstrap, who hears more patent cases than any other U.S. judge, will eliminate about 10 percent of his entire patent docket by wiping out the eDekka cases.

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  1. Excellent by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    I'm raising a glass of Resin as I write this.

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    1. Re:Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      You really think nature meant for a male to have sex with another male? Or a female with a female? Nature designed sex for procreation and without a male and female you don't have that. I'd say that if a man desires a man either he made a choice or maybe it's a kind of birth defect. Given that rampant homosexuality is a recent phenomenon I'd say either we've had a huge rash of birth defects or either a lot of people decided to dabble in perverted sex. It's a common thing in decadent societies. I'm not really against homosexuality just all the foolish attempts to say it's normal. Anyone can see it's not. I don't care who's dick you suck as long as it is not mine.

      If by "recent phenomenon" you mean "let's forget all about the ancient Greeks" then yes, okay, it's recent, as long as "recent" means "longer than thousands of years ago". Those beautiful philosophers of Athens et al? Lots of homosexual sex. Ever read Symposium? This isn't some "get your rocks off" stuff. This is real romantic love. Funny how most of Western society is based on such Classical ideals, yet they conveniently gloss over that part.

    2. Re:Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nature doesn't intend for anything. It's not an intelligent agent.

      There are several models based in genetic evolution which support the emergence of homosexual behavior. For example, a trait which promotes excessively promiscuous behavior in females might have unintended consequences in males. The trait would be stable if the increase in fecundity of the effected females offset any decrease in effected males. And don't forget that it was quite common for gay men and gay women to have children through sex, especially in the days when they were forced by society to into marriage. The evolutionary pressures suppressing homosexual behaviors would be much less than you might think.

      There's no evidence that homosexual proclivity is a recent phenomenon. Quite the contrary, actually. The social identity of being homosexual, not to mention the whole notion of sexuality, is certainly recent, but that's a distinct phenomena.

      LIkewise, what the heck does "normal" have to do with anything? Is it evolutionarily "normal" to drive around in cars? To step on the moon? I'm pretty sure that notions of shame and moral culpability doesn't exist in the animal kingdom, at least not to any appreciable degree. Humanity is _distinguished_ by it's ability to divorce itself, at least in part, from the natural processes which govern all other forms of life. The very notion of "free will" which you use to affix moral blame on homosexuals undermines your implied notion that there's a "normal" that homosexuals are violating, where "normal" is something objective and immutable. Instead, we exist in a much more complex world, subject to far more complex phenomena by dint of our incredible capacity for self-reflection and rational thought.

      Thus the question of the genetic origins of homosexuality is actually quite irrelevant in terms of its "correctness". I simply couldn't care whether homosexuality is inherent or not. Personally I think it's quite obvious that there's a significant degree of so-called "free choice" in homosexual identity and behavior, more so for some than others. But LGBT advocacy unfortunately internalized the fallacious premise (a naturalistic fallacy) in conservative arguments.

      Unless you can show objective reasons why homosexuality, per se, causes you or other harms (and that harm cannot simply be disgust, physical or moral), then you have no reasonable basis to judge homosexuals or their behavior. The past decade has shown quite persuasively that such reasons simply do not exist, despite considered efforts on the part of large parts of global society. Instead, your arguments and points simply prove yourself a judgmental idiot out of touch with your own personal moral failings and unaware of your diminished capacity for rational thinking. If I were you I'd start my education from scratch, reading Socrates and Plato to learn how to question myself and identify my own assumptions before wasting time judging others.

    3. Re:Excellent by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And at this point, who gives a shit about gays beside closeted people?

      Well, some of the most creepy, objectifying straight men worry intensely about gay men. They think the gay men are looking at them the way they look at women. That's probably very frightening.

    4. Re:Excellent by r_a_trip · · Score: 2

      I don't care who's dick you suck as long as it is not mine.

      Ah, and here we have it, the petty reason why you are bandying about a lot of rhetoric like perverted and unnatural. Don't flatter yourself pal, just because you happen to have a penis, doesn't mean homosexual men are lusting after you. With about 3.5 billion men in the world, chances are that you aren't that overwhelmingly attractive. Even if you were God's sexual gift to Earth, I have been with my man in a committed relationship for thirteen years now, so your penis doesn't even come in the picture.

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    5. Re:Excellent by KGIII · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So then, you DO remember the day you decided "hey, I can be heterosexual or I can be homosexual, hmm ... hmm ... yeah I guess I'll just be hetero"?

      Actually? Kind of, sort of, yes? There was a time where I was curious about what my sexuality might be and was open enough to investigate such. It turns out that kissing a man is not as much fun as I'd hoped. So, yeah... I quite clearly remember having a very similar conversation with myself and with others - I was also very drunk throughout that period of my life. But yes, I suppose, I figured I could prefer either one gender or both and, as it turns out, I'm kind of partial to the womenfolk.

      I might have an odd fascination with transgendered folk, however. I mean, yeah, they're the gender they identify with - right? So, no, I'm not gay but I'm pretty damned open to new experiences or at least trying them.

      Hmm...

      Discussing my sexuality on Slashdot...
      Expecting serious replies...
      While in another state...
      Miles from home...
      In a city...
      Filled with hookers.
      Filled with loose women...
      Might even have some transsexuals...
      Plenty of money...
      Sitting in my hotel room...
      Using VNC to connect to my home computer...
      Compiling shit just 'cause I like the scrolling text - sort of - don't need to compile it...
      More compute devices than pairs of shoes...
      More compute devices than suits...
      Fucking around on Slashdot...
      Talking about my sexuality...
      On Slashdot...

      I need help. *sighs*

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    6. Re:Excellent by Holi · · Score: 2

      Your answer is in your post.

      "In a city... Filled with hookers."

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    7. Re:Excellent by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2
      Gotta start somewhere. If trolls get the idea they no longer have a viable business model, when the courts have become part of that model, the patent troll industry will fall apart. Gotta take those victories as you find them.

      I have no doubt that judges have spent some time discussing this issue, and probably become a little pissed as they realized they were an integral part of that business model. Where it was heading was a world where extortion was the final goal, for every activity in life. Patent trolling was a real world true slippery slope.

      Next up, ending perpetual copyright and eliminating descendants perpetual profit on an ancestor's work.

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  2. Woops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone's bribe check bounced

  3. Just maybe by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He figured out that the parasite school of economics wasn't going to work in the long run.

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    1. Re:Just maybe by MyAlternateID · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He figured out that the parasite school of economics wasn't going to work in the long run.

      Yeah, suddenly authority figures are considering the importance of economic sustainability? That's a very nice fantasy. If we manage to improve the way the world works, then who knows? It could even happen.

    2. Re:Just maybe by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

      eDekka's patents had to be seriously deffective to get tossed in East Texas. I doubt seriously that the judge actually wised up but more likely the case was so weak even he couldn't justify it.

  4. Why all the sudden? by Sheik+Yerbouti · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like someones check didn't clear

  5. Can't be... It's 53F (11.7C) in Hell by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny
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  6. Just one patent by tomhath · · Score: 5, Informative

    All the cases were related to the same patent, which the judge ruled was too vague. Clearly the right decision but there's still a long way to go.

    1. Re:Just one patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Imagine how long it would take to reign in Intellectual Ventures, owned by the biggest patent troll of all (Nathan Myhrvold)? Intellectual Ventures holds 30,000 patents. Revoking at a rate of two per day would take five lifetimes.

      The only solution is shocking the patent system to its core, disallowing *all* software patents and financially penalizing examiners that let "swinging on a swing" type patents get through (http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227).

      Not holding my breath.

    2. Re:Just one patent by cbhacking · · Score: 2

      Your math is off by about an order of magnitude. 30000 days is about 1 lifetime (82.2 years); at two patents per day it would take half as long. Still a damn long time, though.

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    3. Re:Just one patent by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      Your math is off by about an order of magnitude. 30000 days is about 1 lifetime (82.2 years); at two patents per day it would take half as long. Still a damn long time, though.

      Yeah, how many judges are going to work for 82.2 years straight without taking a single weekend, holiday or vacation? If you fugue in a five day work week, three weeks of vacation and a dozen state/federal holidays, you're looking at 131.6 years. That's without sick days or personal time.

      If you also figure in that no one is born a judge, and have to go through law school and probably some time as a lawyer, five lifetimes sounds about right to me.

    4. Re:Just one patent by Earthquake+Retrofit · · Score: 2

      I figure the judge saw an opportunity to free up a BIG block of vacation time. 168 cases is a lot. I would of done the same.

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  7. Solution for patent reform - knowledgable judges by chromaexcursion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The judge in question has learned a lot about patent law (he's only been a district judge for 4 years). He threw out the cases, and invited the defendants to file for attorney fees.
    The threat of having to pay attorney fees if they lose will stop patent trolls dead. Millions for defense, not a penny for tribute will take on a new meaning when you can get the millions back.

  8. Re:What makes someone a Troll? by Garfong · · Score: 5, Informative

    You need to look at the rational for granting patents. The original rational was that by providing a monopoly on an invention for a limited period of time, it would encourage inventors to publish new and useful inventions instead of keeping those inventions as trade secrets. So the original inventor would be guaranteed exclusivity for a period of time, and in exchange everyone would benefit after the exclusivity period had expired.

    But now people have started filing for patents which do not describe an invention in a useful manner, and then suing anyone who makes a similar invention. This basically reverses the intended purpose of patents.

    Analogy: patents were intended to protect invention prospectors from claim jumpers, but instead are being used by speculators who see an idea railway going a certain direction and buy up all the mindspace in its way.

  9. Re:Lawsuit was against 3balls.com, golf gear suppl by theskipper · · Score: 2

    Actually it was worse. One and a half tea-bags.

  10. Re:What makes someone a Troll? by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Informative

    A patent should not be about an idea that can not be produced. So twist enough words around faster than light travel, lock it in place and then keep extending out the patent, which is what in reality does occur in tech space. Ideas are routinely claimed without any ability to apply them and then decades down the track when the ability occurs they refine the patent and extend it on from that period, effectively hugely extended patent life and simultaneously blocking other companies from developing that technology earlier.

    There are many corruptions of patent and copyright law that hugely harm society and whose only purpose is the insane attempt to feed insatiable greed. Your PR stunt of I oppose 'BUT' greed first is pretty lame and disingenuous.

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  11. Re:What makes someone a Troll? by turbidostato · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Yes, terrible!
    1) The large, non-innovative company simply steals the work of another company expending neither effort, nor time, nor money, nor creativity.
    2) Other startups refuse wasting time and money building new products.
    3) Customer lives with the same crap product for decades."

    Sensible rationale. It makes sense.

    But real world seems to probe it doesn't work that way: software development, for instance, has flourished without the need of a strong patent chest. Neither Microsoft, nor Oracle, nor Google, nor Facebook, nor Twitter, nor SAP, nor Red Hat, etc. made their way into big companies thanks to strong patent protection for their innovations, but by being innovative, fast to implement and with good business acumen. It's arguable, though, that they acquired a strong patent portfolio once they were big as a war chest against other big companies also with large patent portfolios and to increase the entry barrier for new competitors.

  12. Eastern District of Texas by nerdonamotorcycle · · Score: 2

    was the venue of choice for patent trolls for a long time, because they were notoriously friendly to plaintiffs in such cases. Looks like that particular gravy train may have stopped.

  13. just a few companies. Pay defendants' legal costs by raymorris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This particular judge invited defendants to file to have the troll pay their fees. That puts this troll, who is 10% of the problem, out of business.

    It wouldn't take too many cases in which Intellectual Ventures has to pay the people they sue before IV would run out of money and be gone. They are responsible for around 30% of the trolling.

    Four companies file 90% of the patent cases. Of the remaining 10%, many are legitimate disputes, so well over 90% of the trolling is those four entities. Put those four out of business and you've pretty much solved the problem of patent trolls. (And by making it costly for those four, others will be discouraged from attempting it).

  14. Re:What makes someone a Troll? by trout007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry but customers are fickle. Look at the industries without IP like restaurants and fashion. Lots of innovation and competition. What will happen is instead of taking a long time and lots of resources to get a patent companies will push every upgrade to market as fast as possible to get the first movers advantage.

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  15. Re:What makes someone a Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The original purpose and function of patents was a method of rewarding people the King favored. How it ended up as an institution separate from the King relates more to attempts by the Parliament to limit the King's powers than to reasoned debate about the function of patents.

    The concepts of patents as a method of motivating people to publish trade secrets was an after-the-fact rationalization. Even so, it also helps to realize that for a long time patents were really only limited to methods of manufacture, not usages. It's easy to keeps methods of manufacturing secret.

    Which is why until the mid 20th century in non-Anglophone countries you couldn't, for example, patent a chemical or its use, but only the method of manufacture. This is one reason why the German and French chemical industries were so inventive and competitive compared to American companies in the first half of the 20th century. But then they got greedy and wanted the same protections their American counterparts got.

    The trade secret rationalization doesn't work very well in the modern era. It's much more difficult to keep manufacturing methods secret. And patents are so broad that that for the most part they protect things which aren't even remotely in dangerous of being kept secret.

    Which is why economists today favor return on capital investment as a rationale for the patent system. Like the trade secret rationale it seems logical on its face, but doesn't hold up to empirical data. There's no less innovation in the increasingly small areas where patent protection is non-existent than in patent-protectable areas. There may be more investment, but that's the tail wagging the dog in an analysis. _Output_, not investment money, is the relevant metric.

    People forget that the beauty of a free market system is that with enough wealthy capitalists, the necessary investment tends to happen even without government protections. Indeed, _especially_ without government protections like patents and copyrights. Once you start adding government monopoly rents, the money will chase those protections rather than seeking out truly innovative ideas. Without government protections it's not like capitalists will just sit on their money. Inflation provides all the incentive you need for capitalists to get out their and hustle, looking for profitable opportunities.

  16. Re:just a few companies. Pay defendants' legal cos by penguinoid · · Score: 2

    Put those four out of business and you've pretty much solved the problem of patent trolls.

    Put those four out of business, and all you do is postpone fixing our clearly broken patent system. You want to solve patent trolling, stop the patent office from rubber-stamping the stupidest most general patents.

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