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4 Calif. Students Arrested For Alleged Mass-Killing Plot
The New York Times reports that four high school students in the small California town of Tuolumne, about 120 miles east of San Francisco, have been arrested, but not yet charged, for planning an attack on their school, Summerville High School. According to the Times, three of the four were overheard discussing this plot, and a fourth conspirator was later identified. Their goal, according to Toulumne sheriff James Mele, was "to shoot and kill as many people as possible at the campus"; they had not however been able yet to obtain the weapons they wanted to carry out the attack. From NBC News' version of the story:
"Detectives located evidence verifying a plot to shoot staff and students at Summerville High School," Mele said. "The suspects' plan was very detailed in nature and included names of would-be victims, locations and the methods in which the plan was to be carried out."
By promoting that teachers should be armed to protect the children? Employment wise, it was wise of you to post AC. Hopefully, you don't write code with that kind of logic.
Do you have something wrong with your brain?
No. Do you have a problem with people pointing out logical inconsistencies, mixed premises, and hypocrisy?
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
A law that criminals will probably ignore, and won't care about in the least (they will be dead or in jail for murder), but will put otherwise law-abiding people in jail, is a bad law.
That's all true. Most of the other stuff you wrote also all seems true, but it doesn't really form a cogent argument about anything. No one said if someone ignores the rule about murder they would care about firearm restrictions. I'm not sure anyone has ever said that ever, let alone in this conversation. I don't think anyone who passed the law banning guns in schools said that. That's what I don't get about gun control debates. One side can't get past this notion that it's only about this theoretical criminal in their minds, and that if it doesn't stop these villains, the law is no good.
I apologize, silly facts and historical context are about to get in the way of the ideology of the moment.
Those "signs" that are being debated here have nothing to do with stopping school shootings of the kind being discussed here. The ban on guns in schools comes from "The Gun Free Schools Act" a law first passed way back in 1990. The idea was not that signs would stop people determined to come in and shoot up a school. That was barely even a concept at the time. The idea was that if merely having a gun on you near a school would carry a harsher penalty than elsewhere it would drive gang and drug activity away from schools.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_US
its actually pretty consistent. especially considering the population at the beginning of the timeline was 1/20th the current population. now count the number of incidents per year. not 20 times as much, not even 10 times as much. in fact there is a spike in the 80s but in recent times it has gone down to late 1800's numbers. and as you say, only well off white people used to go to school.
I couldn't find numbers for the 1950s, but recently the trend has been downwards: http://curry.virginia.edu/rese...
People think the 50s were great, but the reality is very different. There was a lot more violence back then. I'm no expert on the US, but people in the UK are often surprised to learn that during the war kids would be arrested for breaking in to bomb shelters and smashing them, or looting bombed houses, on a quite regular basis. Capital punishment never worked, and while classrooms were certainly grimmer back then a large part of that is due to the really bad kids simply not attending school at all.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
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