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Trans-Pacific Partnership Trade Deal Is Reached

An anonymous reader writes: The NY Times reports that negotiators have finally reached agreement over the Trans-Pacific Partnership from the U.S. and 11 other nations. The TPP has been in development for eight years, and has the potential to dramatically strengthen U.S. economic ties to east Asia. Though the negotiations have been done in secret, the full text of the agreement should be published within a month. Congress (and the legislative houses of the other participating countries) will have 90 days to review it and decide whether to ratify it. The TPP has been criticized in tech circles for how it regards intellectual property and facilitates website blocking, among other issues.

Proponents will also have to answer broader questions about whether it stifles competition, how it treats individuals versus large corporations, as if it creates environmental problems. To give you an idea of how complex it is: "The Office of the United States Trade Representative said the partnership eventually would end more than 18,000 tariffs that the participating countries have placed on United States exports, including autos, machinery, information technology and consumer goods, chemicals and agricultural products ranging from avocados in California to wheat, pork and beef from the Plains states."

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  1. We Are Fucked by crunchy_one · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the first thing that came to mind. That, and we are really, really fucked .

    1. Re:We Are Fucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is all about letting Big Biz (esp Big Pharma) in the USA fuck all the smaller biz into bankruptcy AND letting the US Feds get unfettered access to anything they want.
      The other countries get what out of this exactly?

      The sagebrush is blowing in the wind.

      Soon ann these other counties will look just like identikit USA with a Big Mac whorehouse on every corner etc etc

  2. Re:What Could Possibly Go Wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I honestly don't know. No. Really. I don't know.

    The same thing that has gone wrong with every single trade pact that the US government has ever negotiated: a few get enriched, the rest of us get fewer jobs. Do try to keep up.

  3. And we STILL can't read it by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its full 30-chapter text will not be available for perhaps a month

    Doubtlessly to be released to public 24 hours before the Congressional vote...

    If the reason for keeping it secret is that the negotiators didn't want to be swayed by day-to-day changing public opinion, what reason not to release the text immediately? It's not as if they have to print it all out; I'm sure there's many a web-designer who could whip up a site with the content of the treaty in less than a day.

    Hell, stick it in a TXT file and dump it on an FTP site somewhere. Nominally this agreement is for the betterment of all involved countries; there is no reason not to make the information available immediately.

    Unless... say, you don't think the negotiators weren't working in the best interests of the citizens they are supposed to represent, do you?

    1. Re:And we STILL can't read it by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At least Nixon knew when the jig was up and still had enough sense of shame to step down when he was busted. When modern presidents wantonly ignore the law AND get caught they claim is some !$MYPARTY conspiracy to discredit them and carry on.

      We would lucky to have a president with half the integrity or Richard Nixon again.

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      Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
  4. Re:What Could Possibly Go Wrong? by Art+Challenor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and the first clue should have been "negotiated in secret". This is almost all the bad IP parts of the bills the Congress has been trying to pass but couldn't because of the public scrutiny (see SOPA, CISPA, etc.). Now they just get to vote "yes" on a "jobs" bill. The only remaining question is can they do it without drooling at the prospect of the campaign finance monies they'll get for doing the bidding of their handlers.