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All Malibu Media Subpoenas In Eastern District NY Put On Hold

NewYorkCountryLawyer sends an update on the progress of Malibu Media, the company that filed subpoenas and copyright lawsuits over alleged BitTorrent piracy of pornography films: A federal Magistrate Judge in Central Islip, New York, has just placed all Malibu Media subpoenas in Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island, and Staten Island on hold indefinitely, due to "serious questions" raised by a motion to quash (PDF) filed in one of them. Judge Steven Locke's 4-page Order and Decision (PDF) cited the defendant's arguments that "(i) the common approach for identifying allegedly infringing BitTorrent users, and thus the Doe Defendant, is inconclusive; (ii) copyright actions, especially those involving the adult film industry, are susceptible to abusive litigation practices; and (iii) Malibu Media in particular has engaged in abusive litigation practices" as being among the reasons for his issuance of the stay.

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  1. Re:DMCA needs to die by jonwil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This has nothing to do with the DMCA, this is a straight out copyright infringement lawsuit being filed.

    The real problem is that the methods the copyright holders (or the copyright enforcement goons acting on their behalf) are using to identify torrent users aren't good enough and its good to see at least one judge willing to call these enforcers out on it.

  2. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    DMCA is not the problem. It needs reform, surely, but it also needs to be enforced.

    Right now as it is, pirates get away with way too much. There's pretty much no chance of getting in trouble for pirating or copyright infringement. Even if you're caught, the penalty is a slap on the wrist. Oooh, your video is no longer on YouTube. Boo hoo hoo.

    Two things need to be done to fix copyright.

    1) Reform copyright terms to 5 years by default. Copyright owners can extend it for an increasing fee, indefinitely if they wish. This fee will eventually be so high that they will be better off releasing it into the public domain.

    2) Copyright law must be enforced, and seriously. It must have sane penalties though. Simple infringement for personal use should be a misdemeanor. However, sites should be forced to police themselves better, and there should be more police effort to stop infringement.

    Right now copyright law is useless because it is ineffective and ridiculous. If copyright law is sane and actually risky for people to break while still aiding the public domain, it will be a much better solution.

    1. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The fees idea is bad. In order to have any fairness with things like independent movies, or copyleft licensed code, you'd need to make it dependent on how much money the company makes with the content. And over the years, companies have collected tons of ways how to "enhance" their books so that it seems they are poor, and make no money.
      So the only thing this ruling will create is that the rich companies will be abled to protect their content indefinitely, and the smaller ones will lose protections very fast.

      And I haven't even mentioned those works yet, where the creator didn't prolong copyright beyond the initial term because they haven't thought it would be successful, and then the work does become a success, where publishers make all the money, and the creator doesn't see a penny. Right now its easy to prevent this: just don't sell any rights. This comes for free.

    2. Re:No by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 4, Interesting

      1) Reform copyright terms to 5 years by default.

      This severely penalises small content producers in favour of massive corporations, all a publisher needs to do is wait five years and they can leverage their marketing and distribution might to completely own a franchise while the original creator gets nada.

    3. Re:No by jabuzz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In addition anything less than Berne Convention for copyright is a none starter; that boat has sailed. However Berne Convention is a lot less than what we have currently in both north America and Europe. Rolling Copyright terms back to Berne Convention should be the initial goal.

    4. Re: No by ravenshrike · · Score: 2

      5Ã--10^x would be easy to pay, with the initial registry being free. At 20 years thats 555 bucks, but almost everything enters public domain at 30-40 years after initial sale. Also, all video games must submit all source code to be distributed upon lapse of copyright.

    5. Re:No by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Informative

      Another way to say it is that if you haven't made your money on it within 5 years, you almost certainly never will.

      Not all artistic works have the short life of a Hollywood blockbuster or Top 10 music track.

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  3. You're a funny dinosaur, and wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Porn needs to die. It harms families, creates promiscuity, and is harmful to children and women. Why we tolerate this smut in our Christian nation I will never know.

    I know you're trolling, but I'll bite anyway.

    All the perceived negative effects of porn stem from sex and nudity having been given a historic stigma by the church, for which your kind is to blame entirely. There is nothing evil or harmful in natural sexual processes whatsoever, nor in the naked body, but just the opposite: they provide happiness and enjoyment, and as a side effect produce offspring which was nature's motive for making sex enjoyable in the first place.

    The above doesn't excuse non-consensual or violent porn of any kind, nor sexual servitude under duress, let alone attacks on children. Those are all simply criminal abuse, and should have no place in a civilized society. That's not because of religious doctrine but because abuse and duress are a violation of people's personal freedom and safety in a supportive society.

    Religion has programmed you into seeing good things as evil without any defensible justification other than historic dictats. You really ought to think about it yourself a little more deeply and logically, instead of blindly adopting what you're told to think. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

    1. Re:You're a funny dinosaur, and wrong by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You have to remember that Christianity is at its core a guilt trip. We are all pitiful sinners that can be redeemed by the mercy of our Lord, who selflessly sent his only son so he could die for our sins. That's how it starts in the garden of Eden with the original sin, the seven deadly sins of lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy and pride and so on. Who has never had a touch of any of them? Not to mention all the implied ones by breaking the commandments and so on, unless you're a walking saint everybody needs forgiveness for something. Sexuality is of course a big one, take a basic instinct humans have and turn it into something shameful and you'll have a never-ending supply of people needing forgiveness for their sinful thoughts. Fortunately this institutionalized manipulation is in massive retreat though there's still some slut shaming at the fringes but for the most part people seem to feel good about their sexuality. As it should be.

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    2. Re:You're a funny dinosaur, and wrong by myowntrueself · · Score: 2

      Porn needs to die. It harms families, creates promiscuity, and is harmful to children and women. Why we tolerate this smut in our Christian nation I will never know.

      I know you're trolling, but I'll bite anyway.

      All the perceived negative effects of porn stem from sex and nudity having been given a historic stigma by the church, for which your kind is to blame entirely. There is nothing evil or harmful in natural sexual processes whatsoever, nor in the naked body, but just the opposite: they provide happiness and enjoyment, and as a side effect produce offspring which was nature's motive for making sex enjoyable in the first place.

      The above doesn't excuse non-consensual or violent porn of any kind, nor sexual servitude under duress, let alone attacks on children. Those are all simply criminal abuse, and should have no place in a civilized society. That's not because of religious doctrine but because abuse and duress are a violation of people's personal freedom and safety in a supportive society.

      Religion has programmed you into seeing good things as evil without any defensible justification other than historic dictats. You really ought to think about it yourself a little more deeply and logically, instead of blindly adopting what you're told to think. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

      One of the problems with porn is that, even in porn which is definitely not non-consensual or violent, it does not present actual sex. You aren't watching people having sex; you are watching people (effectively) pretending to have sex but what they are doing is just 'for the camera'. If you actually try doing this stuff yourself you might find that its actually not very enjoyable.

      The good old 'facial cumshot' is a good example of this. So you have a beautiful woman, apparently skilled in fellatio, blowing you and what do you do when you are about to reach orgasm? You pull your cock right out of your mouth and you MASTURBATE to finish off on her face. FFS!!! This is totally ridiculous.

      This is what 'causes harm'. People start forming the idea that this is what sex actually is and what you should do.

      This seems to be a relatively modern phenomenon. In older porn, 1970s and '80s, in the old 'Swedish movies' for example, its much more realistic sex; as if you are peering into peoples bedrooms (bathrooms, lounges etc) and watching them at it.

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  4. Righthaven by Required+Snark · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The "Motion to Quash" (gotta love that name) references Righthaven as an example of abuse of copyright.

    Federal courts have addressed such practices regarding plaintiffs "attempt to create cottage industry of filing copyright claims, making large claims for damages and then settling claims for pennies on the dollar." Righthaven LLC v. Democratic Underground LLC, No.2:11-cv-01356 (D. Nev. April 14, 2011).

    Somehow I find it unsurprising that pornographers and right wing nutjobs try and use the same scam.

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    1. Re:Righthaven by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What is right wing about that process? The Democrats support the movie industry, not the Republicans.

      The fact that Democrats support something doesn't negate the possibility of something being right wing. The Democrats are not ideologically pure, or ideologically homogenous, and very few of them can be considered "left".

      To me, pretending that copyright is only about property rights, and ignoring the fact that copyright was also supposed to be about free speech and about making material available for free to the public after a limited time, is definitely "right wing".

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  5. wow 38% of copyright cases, 88% of IP, are Malibu by raymorris · · Score: 2

    The motion to quash indicates that 38% of all copyright cases filed over a certain period were Malibu (x-art). Also, it indicates that 43% are based on an IP address. I think the vast majority Malibu's cases are IP-based, though in the past they've gone after web site operators who unlawfully published Malibu's work.

    If 38% are Malibu and that's included in the 43% that are IP-based, that means that 88% of IP-based cases are Malibu.

    Assuming that Malibu's are a problem, one can solve 88% of the problem by looking at the specifics of what Malibu does and putting a stop to their particular methods. In other words, because Malibu is 88% of the problem, you only need to stop Malibu in order to solve the vast majority of the problem.

    Because Malibu did in fact download part of the copyright video from defendant's home, the Washington.edu reference is actually irrelevant. Therefore it seems to me that the one clear problem is that Malibu hasn't followed court orders to file motions under seal. Generally, they do seem to maybe be abusing discovery, though offering to setttle isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    They do have a right to protect their rights to their very fappable content, and someone in that household did in fact unlawfully violate their rights, so they COULD bring a legitimate suit and handle it properly. But they don't.

  6. Re: DMCA needs to die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Porn doesn't become unhappy with me after I refuse to buy it a second brand new luxury vehicle.

    Porn doesn't then divorce me, claiming I physically abused it, and have a court blindly accept this false accusation.

    Family courts don't award porn 50 to 100% of my current assets and future paychecks to support porn's lifestyle after porn branch-swings to another guy.

  7. Re: DMCA needs to die by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    Porn also does not produce children, which in your case is really fortunate for us all, because we won't have to buy them a lifetime of therapy.

  8. I have actually filed a DMCA takedown by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was on behalf of a local author who presented to my user group with a sad little short story. After having published a children's book through Amazon (trade paperback POD, not Kindle) which became popular, some site in the UK popped up with a scanned copy of her book offered for sale. This is apparently a common scam targeting both print and online authors. We filed a takedown, and the pirated content was gone the next day.

    DMCA works internationally in "notice and takedown" countries, which include the EU. It's by treaty, somewhat like extradition.

    1. Re:I have actually filed a DMCA takedown by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

      That was proper use of DMCA, somebody was profiting off of someone else's intellectual property. Now imagine someone uploaded one page of the book while downloading the book (this is analogous to what BitTorrent does). You can't issue a take down notice to EVERY seeder, and the laws intended to stop people from selling intellectual property they don't shouldn't really apply to people accidentally distributing a very small part of intellectual property they don't own, should they? The punishment should fit the crime, and the penalties should be much less..

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  9. Thanks for this, NYCL! by Binkleyz · · Score: 2

    IANAL but I read court documents for fun (Sad, no?) via well-oilied PACER account, and this whole case has made for some very entertaining reading.

    Regardless of the merits of the practices that Mailbu Media use, it's hard to see how the film industry as a whole (not just the adult version) can really survive if the standard of proof for infringement is a concrete connection to a specific user AND a requirement that the downloader receive a usable section of the overall file(s). One of the key points in the documents seem to be that the mere possession of a file fragment is not sufficient to rise to the level of an actionable tort is pretty telling, since that would require the court to make some sort of threshold for when a piece of an overall file becomes infringing.

    1. Re:Thanks for this, NYCL! by sjames · · Score: 2

      The standard of proof HAS to be high considering that the penalties are ruinous. Beyond that, If I am to be deputized as a defender of other people's copyrights in my home, I better be getting a paycheck from the beneficiaries.

      But beyond that, the movie industry is showing no signs of damage from copyright infringement. Their profits are higher than ever.

    2. Re:Thanks for this, NYCL! by sconeu · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you want to know about the merits of the practices that Malibu Media use, go to Ars, Techdirt, or Popehat and search for "Prenda Law".

      Hint. There ARE NO merits to their practices.

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    3. Re:Thanks for this, NYCL! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

      The decision isn't about what is or is not copyright infringement. It's about whether you can sue somebody without any evidence that they did in fact commit a copyright infringement.

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    4. Re:Thanks for this, NYCL! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2

      As I said, the decision has nothing to do with how much copying makes it a copyright infringement. It has to do with the fact that there is no evidence that John Doe copied anything from anybody.

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  10. Re:wow 38% of copyright cases, 88% of IP, are Mali by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Correction: Someone in that household, or leeching that household's WiFi or someone with a hacked cable modem or someone at the ISP downloaded that content that they may or may not have known was copyrighted.

    Or due to a clerical error, perhaps it was another household.

  11. Re:DMCA needs to die by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

    IMO the DMCA is overall a good thing (especially the safe harbor provision) but has two big flaws:

    1) Anti-circumvention rules don't permit non-infringing use.
    2) There's all of about zero restitution for fraudulent take down notices. (I.e. having somebody swear under penalty of perjury on your behalf is a really weak standard, and is often used to suppress youtube videos within their first four days of being posted, which is when they get the most views and ad revenue for those who post them.)