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See the Sketches J.R.R. Tolkien Used To Build Middle-Earth (wired.com)

Esther Schindler writes: In addition to writing the story of The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien drew it. The maps and sketches he made while drafting it "informed his storytelling, allowing him to test narrative ideas and illustrate scenes he needed to capture in words," reports Ethan Gilsdorf at Wired. "For Tolkien, the art of writing and the art of drawing were inextricably intertwined."

It's all coming out in a new book, but here we get a sneak preview, along with several cool observations, such as: "If Tolkien's nerdy use of graph paper feels like a secret message to future Dungeons & Dragons players, then so does his 'Plan of Shelob's lair.' Tolkien's map of tunnels stocked with nasties—here, a spider named Shelob—would be right at home in any Dungeon Master's campaign notes. He even marks the place for a classic dungeon crawl feature: 'trap.'"

48 comments

  1. word count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    480,100 and some words, that's at least 480 pictures.

  2. Aw fudge. What a let-down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFS only has one image:

    Map of Rohan, Gondor, and Mordor.

  3. Copyright Gymnastics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is fascinating, but it also looks like a clever way to get the copyrights on his works out in a form that will take longer to get into the public domain. A nice way to insure that the family can keep control over a dead man's works for a very very long time. Well played.

    1. Re: Copyright Gymnastics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is nothing wrong about releasing these in book form. I, for one, will be purchasing a copy when it is available. I first read the series when I was 10, which was about 30 years ago.

      Would you rather the family keep these locked up in a chest so nobody else can enjoy the artwork? Bravo to Tolkien's family and the authors for putting this new art book together!

  4. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by RDW · · Score: 4, Informative

    TFS only has one image

    It's one of these magic new interweb things. You click the arrows at the sides and different pictures appear, like in the Mirror of Galadriel.

  5. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by lgw · · Score: 1

    For me, the js broke at slide 5/8. What losers.

    While I hate it, I at least understand forcing a slideshow to cause bogus inflation of ad impressions. The same stupid js bs without ads on the page? They smoke some strong stuff over at wired; that they do.

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  6. Posting Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why are these articles being posted? This is not tech news. Nerds/Geeks - let's move on. I like Star Trek too - I don't want to see articles about that either. Go ahead, I'm sure folks agree - maybe you're reading this now, agreeing, yet you will take the counter argument if/when you choose to reply to this. I won't be checking for replies on this, I am not attempting to introduce flame bait here. While I'm at it, I really can't get over how lame some of the tech is on here lately too. I need to break the habit of coming here as I do a couple of times a day. Maybe I'm ranting - maybe it's that time of the month for me.... I don't know. Perhaps I'm outgrowing most of the content on here these days. Maybe I'm just let down by /. these days. Apologies for my outburst.

    1. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 0

      Why are these articles being posted? This is not tech news.

      Agreed. This is just filler and fanboy crap. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY?

      Fucking thing was drawn with a crayon, what does this have to do with anything related to technology?

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    2. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this isn't a troll then I suggest you ask yourself where it is technology comes from in the first place.

    3. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

      Fucking thing was drawn with a crayon, what does this have to do with anything related to technology?

      How It's Made: Crayons

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      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<
      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<
      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<
      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<

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    4. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      'News for Nerds' does not mean just tech stories. Sorry to break it to you.

    5. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<
      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<
      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<
      at 33 13/rpm .... >pop<

      But notice how warm and rich the 'pops' are! Can't do that with a CD, now can ya? ;)

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    6. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are these articles being posted? This is not tech news. Nerds/Geeks - let's move on.

      Look at th etop of the page douchnozzle - all manner of topics are right there to peruse, and entertainment is one of them.

      And that Virginia, is why there really is a place for Tolkien's sketches. Right here in River City!

      And Technology only subjects is just a click clicky away for you as well. Who knew?

      If you don't want to see anything that offends your obviously sensitive sensibilities, Just click on the topic you deem permissible.

    7. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

      But notice how warm and rich the 'pops' are! Can't do that with a CD, now can ya? ;)

      As a kid I'd sometimes let an LP sit in the inner circle-groove and turn the amp way up, just below the point where the rumble fed back into the cartridge. The repetitive sound was as unique as a fingerprint and I'd listen to that for awhile. I'd imagine I was inside some giant machine.

      The worst gash-skips I'd 'fix' with a hot needle or razor blade. This stopped the skip but left a horrible noise. Then I discovered that you could often shave gently down from the top of the gash until the part protruding into the groove came out, leaving some of the musical material intact.

      I'd always check the serial number traced into the vinyl casting on the smooth surface just outside the label looking for a secret message. Sometimes there was one.

      I owned one of the first SAE Impulse Noise Reduction systems made. It was even better than sliced bread.

      One day I resolved that my cultural education was not complete until I actually listened to Wagner's complete Ring Cycle, which was recorded on many discs. After the first half-hour I switched over to 78rpm so I could appreciate the music and be amused by the chipmunk singing. The Ring Cycle was completed ahead of schedule.

      I placed Christmas albums on the ends of the shelves so when my cat tried to climb then she wouldn't ruin the good stuff.

      Used to have 40 feet of vinyl collected over a lifetime. Lost it all in the financial Self-Storage Unit Disaster of 2007. I now advise people if you fall upon hard times, gather your most prized possessions and bury them in the woods. There is a much better chance you will see them again, OR at least they will find a good home --- because unlike storage auctions where strangers acquire everything and discard what they don't want --- anyone who finds your cache will only take what they consider valuable.

      I have the utmost respect for the people who are diligently placing out of print vinyl onto the Internet in high quality. But so very many of them fail to apply a light spray of isopropyl alcohol to the surface before playing. It boggles the mind.

      One of my favorite riddle-stumpers used to be,
      How many grooves are there on the average 12" long playing record? I'll consider any guess with the right number of digits to be a correct answer.
      Answer: .edis hcae no eno ,owt ylnO

      This used to be a real 'I should have known this' forehead-slapper. Now people have so little experience with LPs you just get a smile and a nod, as if I was just volunteering some useless obsolete fact. Which it is, I guess.

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    8. Re:Posting Anonymous Coward by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

      So don't you waste your time on
      you waste your time on
      you waste your time on
      you waste your time on
      you waste your time on

      Don't waste it, Don't wast your time on me . . . . . ((Extra points for anyone who recognizes this . . . . ))

  7. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    It's one of these magic new interweb things. You click the arrows at the sides and different pictures appear, like in the Mirror of Galadriel.

    Slashdot has long felt obligated to post warnings about linked sites that require registration or use Flash. Maybe they need to add notices for NoScript users "Warning - won't work without JavaScript".

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  8. Stuff that matters by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Stuff that matters"....indeed.

    I could have sworn this was a site about technology at one time....

    What's next, a review of Bristol Palin's Wordpress blog?

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    1. Re:Stuff that matters by caseih · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh lighten up. LoTR has always been on-topic here. It's part of your nerd or geek card membership. After all, you conveniently left out the most important part of the tagline: "news for nerds." Though maybe the nature of the nerd is changing. Hard to believe I've been wasting time on slashdot for nearly 20 years now.

      Other nerdy non-tech subjects come up from time to time, that slashdotters seem to love talking about:
      - star trek
      - star wars
      - science fiction in general
      - The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy

      to name but a few.

    2. Re:Stuff that matters by Ogive17 · · Score: 2

      I'm surprised you came down from your high horse long enough to send a message to us peons.

      If J.R.R. Tolkien isn't "news for nerds" then I have no clue what would qualify.

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    3. Re:Stuff that matters by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      Ya! I already wanna comment bitching about how come he didn't use that map instead of the famous but idiotically rectilinear mountains one, expecting someone else to chime in he drew that one, too, then I would make a sarcastic comment that he obviously used rectangle graph paper for large scale outdoors instead of hex, what a doof he was.

      I am not well-appreciated answering questions on stackexchange by the humorless robots there.

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    4. Re:Stuff that matters by dreamchaser · · Score: 2

      You really do need to get a clue about this site. It was never just about technology, and Tolkien has always been on topic here.

    5. Re:Stuff that matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Look you stupid asswipe, just click on Technology, and you won't have to shit your panties anytime something comes along that upsets you so badly.

      Right there at the top of the page.

    6. Re:Stuff that matters by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      If you killed yourself, you'd not be bothered by slashdot's choice of stories. It's a win/win for everyone involved!

    7. Re: Stuff that matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they were, once. Now they're cool, they're mainstream and the Beautiful People like them. Once we cool kids take possession of something, it becomes hip and is no longer in the domain of the fugly nerd. It's the way it is.

    8. Re:Stuff that matters by paintballer1087 · · Score: 1

      I seem to see these types of comments more and more, and all by users with such a short time on the site. As someone who has spent over 10 years as a member of this site, it is disappointing to see what it has become in terms of both what users think Slashdot is
      "How is Tolkien related to technology"
      and to see the quality of the articles go downhill. To me this is Stuff that Matters. Endless posts about the release of a new iDevice, or politics don't interest me. I can read about those topics on any other site. It's ones like this that keep me coming back.

      It's funny, I still see myself as a new user with a high UID, though there have been at least 3.5 million new signups since mine.
      I'm not sure where I was going with this, I guess I'm just feeling nostalgic and missing the "good old days" of Slashdot.

  9. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by Zumbs · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hit a blank advertising slide between 6 and 7. Also, if you feel the urge to avoid the java script, you can just look at the source - links to all images are there. The caption to the first image is "Map of Rohan, Gondor, and Mordor".

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  10. Re:Is there a reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know you're just a stupid troll, but actually, yes there is. Middle Earth is an old Norse term for Earth (as opposed to Asgard or Jotunheim, which were to the north and south, respectively). That's right, Middle Earth is meant to be a version of the real world. In interviews, Tolkien said it was set around 9000 years ago. The Shire is Oxford, and Mordor is somewhere around Bulgaria. Obviously, the English Channel doesn't exist yet. The underlying message of the Hobbit and LotRs is, "We might be short, fat, and lazy; but we're tough, so you better not underestimate us!"

    Anyways, some of the corollaries of this are:
    Englishmen (Numenoreans) are inherently superior to all others due to superior breeding.
    The king of England (Arnor) is the rightful king of all of western Europe.
    And yes, the one you're looking for: Everyone to the East and South are dirty savage barbarians.

  11. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    It's the inspiration for D&D's original development maps NO TIME FOR THAT!!!

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  12. What?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I know that Tolkien did some rough sketches of some questionable quality in the early stages of the Hobbit and the LoTR, but his son, Chris, did most of the maps and drawings once he was a teenager, if not before that. I call shenanigans! Tolkien himself admitted--in Letters if not other commentary--that he was no artist and that Chris did most of the artwork associated with the maps and early sketches that went with his work.

    1. Re:What?!?!? by AntiSol · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not quite right.

      Tolkien himself admitted--in Letters if not other commentary--that he was no artist

      That was JRRT being self-deprecating and humble. Some of his art was actually quite good. It all came down to how much time he put into it - there's a big difference between his finished works and his crude sketches. I think what he means when he says "I'm no artist" is more along the lines of "I'm not on par with picasso" rather than "I can't draw". If you want to see some awesome art by JRRT, check out J.R.R Tolkiien: Artist And Illustrator, which has some awesome stuff. This new book seems to be focusing more on the rough sketches.

      and that Chris did most of the artwork associated with the maps and early sketches that went with his work.

      Chris only did the maps IIRC. The other illustrations tended to be JRRT. The original (intended, I don't think it was published in the end) cover of the hobbit was entirely JRRT's design.

    2. Re:What?!?!? by RDW · · Score: 1

      Tolkien's cover for the Hobbit was used in the original and many more recent editions:

      http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki...

      He also did the maps, endpapers and what I think are still by far the best illustrations for The Hobbit. These were in the edition I first read as a child, and it's always disappointing to pick up a version that doesn't have the painting of Smaug on the hoard, or the drawings of the mountain path, Laketown and Beorn's hall. There's a nice selection of Tolkien's art, including the Hobbit illustrations, here:

      http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki...

    3. Re:What?!?!? by AntiSol · · Score: 1

      Tolkien's cover for the Hobbit was used in the original and many more recent editions

      Oh that is his cover? And it was the original cover? It does look like his work. I seem to recall reading something that said there were issues around publishing it with his cover initially. Or perhaps it was the illustrations? Or maybe it was a point of contention but he got his way in the end? I read about it a long time ago and my memory is fuzzy. I did know that he had done a bunch of illustrations and the cover design.

      I have an illustrated edition with all his illustrations but no copy with that cover. Pity, it's awesome.

    4. Re:What?!?!? by RDW · · Score: 1

      Yes, it was used for the very first (British) edition, as were his black and white illustrations (the paintings were added in later printings) and his dragon motif on the board underneath the dust cover. In the UK there were only minor issues - in one of his letters from 1937 Tolkien is concerned about whether the original dust jacket illustration was too complex and had too many colours to print - the publisher went with his suggestion to replace the red sun with a white circle (restored in more recent editions). Tolkien certainly had problems with jackets and covers in other countries, including the US - some had random fantasy designs with no connection to the book (the first official US paperback's infamous 'emu and bulbous fruit' cover was especially bad).

  13. The Madcap Affair of the Purple Emu by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    J.R.R. Tolkien's Rings trilogy was originally published in 1954-55, relatively obscure until an American pulp publisher 'Ace' just went to press without even asking, never mind the money. Tolkien battled them for rights and royalties, and things dragged along slowly until a cadre of deep fan American readers took on the cause with verve that Ace could scarcely have imagined, and sent them reeling. Ace eventually offered an arrangement that was accepted by the Author and formal truce was declared.

    Meanwhile (1960s) popularity of the books had taken off considerably in the United States and Britain. So with new interest Ballentine Books approached the author with intent to produce an 'authorised' paperback edition -- with some revision -- and they would do the cover. From Humphrey Carpenter's J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biography,

    [After some delay] they decided that they could not wait any longer. In order to get at least one Tolkien book into the shops they published The Hobbit in the original text without waiting for Tolkien's revisions, which they planned to include in a later edition. They sent him a copy, and he was astonished by the picture on the cover. Ace Books for all their moral 'piracy' had employed a cover artist who knew something about the story, but Ballantine's cover picture seemed to have no relevance whatever to The Hobbit, for it showed a hill, two emus, and a curious tree bearing bulbous fruit. Tolkien exploded: 'What has it got to do with the story? Where is this place? Why emus? And what is the thing in the foreground with pink bulbs?' When the reply came that the artist hadn't time to read the book, and that the object with pink bulbs was 'meant to suggest a Christmas tree', Tolkien could only answer: 'I begin to feel that I am shut up in a madhouse.'

    Late in 1965 the `authorised' paperback of The Lord of the Rings was published in America in three volumes, with Tolkien's revisions incorporated, and with the emus and the Christmas tree on the cover of the first volume, though this picture was later removed and one of Tolkien's own drawings was substituted; two more of his pictures were used for the second and third volumes. Each copy carried a message from Tolkien: 'This paperback edition and no other has been published with my consent and co-operation. Those who approve of courtesy (at least) to living authors will purchase it and no other.'

    Purple Emu Fellowships are now rare. I used to have one.

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    1. Re:The Madcap Affair of the Purple Emu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:The Madcap Affair of the Purple Emu by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      I really like the first two foreign covers.

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    3. Re:The Madcap Affair of the Purple Emu by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

      Thanks. And here is the Ace + Emu story in more detail (turns out Ace did ask but was its 'pulp' was rebuked by Tolkien). The grassroots anti-Ace campaign is worth a read here, it was something the publishing world had never experienced. Also a good photos of the Purple Emu Fellowship I owned which showed more of the drawing. It was a nice illustration. The artist pegged the landscape pretty well but could not have known that Tolkien was fastidious in his portrayal of Middle Earth and kept its flora and fauna strictly Earthlike in appearance, save a few notable exceptions. No emus or lion-things.

      To counter the "What the hell does all this have to do with 'news for nerds'?" while discussing Tolkien,
      How It's Made: Books

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    4. Re:The Madcap Affair of the Purple Emu by Simon+Rowe · · Score: 1

      J.R.R. Tolkien's Rings trilogy was originally published in 1954-55

      <pedant> 'The Lord of the Rings' is not a trilogy, it is a single novel published in three volumes. </pedant>

    5. Re:The Madcap Affair of the Purple Emu by EStrat · · Score: 1

      So here is my purple emu Ballantine Fellowship. Not in great shape, I read it a lot.

  14. Another time by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    "For Tolkien, the art of writing and the art of drawing were inextricably intertwined."

    Well, he was raised in a time where people had a proper drawing room in every respectable house.

  15. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the direct link. I couldn't see anything, because there's 100+ scripts from all over the world needed to see the pages, and i've blocked them.

  16. Re:Is there a reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because Hobbits, Ho-bbits, don't like being laughed at and will go for the low hanging fruit if you anger them.

  17. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by mestar · · Score: 1

    There are no errors on my Chrome, desktop variant.

  18. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by WalksOnDirt · · Score: 1

    No arrows for me, but I found I could drag the picture to the side and another popped in.

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  19. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    Maybe they need to add notices for NoScript users "Warning - won't work without JavaScript".

    That's pretty much assumed these days.

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  20. Graph paper! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lovely stuff!!!!

    And that's a HUGE piece of graph paper too, its Imperial, the major squares are 1" working out as a piece of artwork 18" x 14" plus margins.

    A bit more work, and a knowledge of the map scale, and it's an Ordnance Survey map, ideal for shelling Mordor.......

    140079 - Bang! Got Gorgoroth!!!!

  21. Re:Aw fudge. What a let-down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOUR Chrome? Since when are you Google?