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Author Joris Luyendijk: Economics Is Not a Science (theguardian.com)

The Real Dr John writes: A Nobel prize in economics, awarded this year to Angus Deaton, implies that the human world operates much like the physical world: that it can be described and understood in neutral terms, and that it lends itself to modeling, like chemical reactions or the movement of the stars. It creates the impression that economists are not in the business of constructing inherently imperfect theories, but of discovering timeless truths. In 1994 economists Myron Scholes and Robert Merton, with their work on derivatives, seemed to have hit on a formula that yielded a safe but lucrative trading strategy. In 1997 they were awarded the Nobel prize in economics. A year later, Long-Term Capital Management lost $4.6bn (£3bn) in less than four months; a bailout was required to avert the threat to the global financial system.

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  1. Rocket analogy by Noah+Haders · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When a rocket blows up, it might be the engineers' fault, but you can't blame physics itself. It's not the fault of the field of economics that some bozo lost money and other bozos bailed them out.

  2. Re:It should be obvious by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you broaden your definition of science to include all fields of human investigation, sure. But if you mean a science like biochemistry or physics, where you do controlled experiments, then no, it is not a hard science. Some people differentiate "hard" from "soft" sciences. OK, by that definition economics could be considered a soft science. But as the author of the article points out, there is much more political bias in "economics research" than in most sciences (where some bias is often unavoidable, but still can be manageable with proper controls). Really, economics is the study of trends in economic activity, but often strays into making pronouncements on political policy, which seems an awful lot more like politics than science.

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    A brain is a terrible thing to waste... Mind? That's debatable.
  3. Re:People who think economics is not a science... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    "Economics is a science, and it has a useful body of knowledge."

    Sure... it is... not.

    Science on reasoning:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

    Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

    The Citibank memo

    http://politicalgates.blogspot.ca/2011/12/citigroup-plutonomy-memos-two-bombshell.html

    Wikileaks, parallel legal system for the corporate world to sue governments and the public.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABDiHspTJww&feature=youtu.be

  4. Re:It should be obvious by codeAlDente · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Astrology is a systematic, empirical study of the relationship between the alignment of planetary bodies and the observable traits and behavior of humans. But I wouldn't call astrology a science because its predictive power is limited.

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    He once inserted random mutations into his code, just so he could have the experience of debugging.
  5. Re: Weep for humanity. by jcr · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If everybody knows there will be deflation then they know that if they hold on to their money it will be worth more in future.

    That's what Krugman claims, but it's bullshit now, and it was bullshit when Keynes first decided to try to convince people that they were better off being robbed by central bankers diluting their money.

    Here's the example that disproves the claim: Everyone knows that when it comes to electronics, next year's model is going to be better/faster/more bang for the buck than this years' model, but the electronics industry isn't starving to death because of everyone sitting on the sidelines and refusing to buy devices because they'll get more for their money in the future.

    Inflation benefits governments and other profligate borrowers. Deflation benefits savers (and everyone else, to a lesser extent.)

    -jcr

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    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."