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Australians Set To Pay 50% More For Apps After Apple Price Spike (heraldsun.com.au)

SlappingOysters writes: Within 36-hours the price of Apple apps is set to increase in Australia, Sweden and Indonesia. It will bring the price of buying an app out of alignment with the value of the Australian dollar, and leave the country's Apple fans paying 50% more for their iOS software than their American counterparts. It's unfortunate timing, with the recent launch of the iPhone 6s and the upcoming fourth generation of Apple TV.

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  1. Must Be The Shipping Cost by glennrrr · · Score: 1

    Those photons are heavy.

    1. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Ecuador · · Score: 1

      Haha funny guy, because photons have little or no mass. But they are probably using electrons, did you think about that? And electrons are much much much heavier than photons!

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    2. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't forget the cost of translating into Australian.

      This is another reason why it's good to be in the EU. Digital goods must be priced the same everywhere, and soon artificial regional restrictions will be removed so someone in the UK can buy apps on a Polish app store if they want to, and the developer must allow it. Should force the price of video games down a fair bit, for a start, and break the monopoly satellite TV channels have on certain sporting events.

      Maybe Australia should just ban regional locks and require that digital goods be priced within say 5% of the US/EU price. Or maybe apply to join the EU.

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    3. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A little known secret about electrons is that they are rarely shipped from A to B. Most people who charge for electrons actually only move them a little back and forth. Photons on the other hand are typically created at one end and consumed at the other end. Personally I think that it's the interfacing cost. American photons get disoriented when they cross the equator and gravity flips upside down.

    4. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe Australia should just ban regional locks and require that digital goods be priced within say 5% of the US/EU price. Or maybe apply to join the EU.

      Yeah, but the price of joining the EU has just gone up . . . you need to take in a million Syrians to join the EU. But, hey, Australia has plenty of room in the outback. And, although Australia is infested with lots of poisonous toxic critters and varmints, it can't be worse than in Syria.

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    5. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Australia would probably benefit from an influx of skilled people. It's got the space, and it does try to attract the "right" kind of immigrants with skills it wants. The problem is that Syrians are mostly Muslims, and there is a perceived culture clash. Actually Syrians are quite progressive, relatively speaking, which is why they are fleeing the hard core old-school guys from ISIS.

      It's a hard sell to people who have Pavolvian conditioning to instantly feel fear and panic when they hear words like "Islam".

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    6. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two comments: I am an aussie living in the UK who is currently ashamed of my countries attitude to refugees skilled or otherwise - and not all of us are frightened of Islam
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      If I remember rightly didn't Australia just sign into the Trans Pacific Trade deal or is this what is actually meant in that deal about normalizing prices ?

    7. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

      A little known secret about electrons is that they are rarely shipped from A to B.

      That's because they're really hard to get through customs. I recently ordered a shipment of electrons in convenient 18x65mm cylindrical form from the Golden Phoenix 10,000 Years Happy Luck battery factory (you know that's got to be a good brand) and it was blocked from being shipped by air, some nonsense about "vent with flame" which I'm sure is just anti-Chinese protectionism.

    8. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Maybe Australia should just ban regional locks and require that digital goods be priced within say 5% of the US/EU price.

      Australia (or at least John Howard, Bush's antipodean doormat) signed the AUSFTA, a sort of dry run for the TPP. Australia is pretty much at the mercy of US business interests here, they don't have much choice.

    9. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do they flee instead of fight?

    10. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Maybe because they don't want to die?

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    11. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Their opponents have aircraft, tanks and other heavy weaponry. Their resistance would be futile, and simply result in their deaths.

      Why not go to other Muslim countries? Some won't take them. Some have taken them, but now have almost as many refugees as natives and can't cope, so the conditions there are awful.

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    12. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by quenda · · Score: 4, Informative

      Australia would probably benefit from an influx of skilled people. It's got the space,

      Australia may have space, but the immigrants all flock to Sydney, which most certainly does _not_ have space. Its now impossible to buy a decent family home within cooee of the city for under a million dollars. Other major cities are not much better. None of the immigrants want to go to Woopwoop, Tasmania.

    13. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I named my cat Neutron because he's always so positive.

    14. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the cost of translating into Australian.

      Well, they only have one vowel...

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    15. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously. I'm friends with a Syrian who left (legally, via marriage to an EU citizen) shortly before all this shit started happening. He's basically no different than any other European in terms of what he likes or believes (or rather, how his beliefs affect his actions). Hell, he's married to a Catholic, what does that say?

    16. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Australia or Indonesia have value added or business transaction tax? VAT change would surely explain the price hike in Sweden.

    17. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      They're actually electronics and photons but anyway, I can't see a logical reason that the price is higher. Back in the day it was books and other shipped goods so it made sense to add to the price just for their country. Now I think people are just doing it because they truly hate Australia and everyone there is used to paying more.

    18. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      ...charge for electrons...

      ha ha ha... as if electrons are ever free of charge... very funny

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    19. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      You're both wrong. It's the containers full of ones and zeros that cause the weight...

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    20. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Gliscameria · · Score: 1

      Triggered!!!

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    21. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other muslim countries have taken millions, i.e. Libanon has taken in more than a 1 million refugees. That means for every refugee they have taken in there are no more than 4 lebanese. Turkey have taken on millions. EU with their nazi eastern states are bickering about a couple of hundred thousands of refugees on a population of 480 million people.

    22. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt the refugees make the family home prices go up in Sidney, they kinda go up everywhere for many other reasons. I find it strange how much non-refugee related crap is being blamed on the refugees.

    23. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Or maybe apply to join the EU.

      Australia is already in the EU. Throw a couple of Motzart Kugle on the barbie and fetch a cold Stiegl while you're at it, mate!

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    24. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazi? Let's take it easy there, chum.

      No one HAS to take refugees. While Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon have taken lots, many others in the middle east have not: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, ISRAEL, Kazahkstan, Iran, etc.

      The problem with the Easter European countries is that they have been a bit more Xenophobic due to their isolation during the cold war. Kicking out Germans, Jews, Muslims and non-Communists in the 40s and 50s became ingrained in their psyche. The balkan wars didn't help much either.

      But let's not fool ourselves that Italy/Spain/Portugal or the Scandinavian countries are welcoming places either. A lot of nutjobs there too.

    25. Re: Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone knows zeros doesn't weigh anything. It's just the ones

    26. Re: Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free trade agreements have nothing to do with the prices the private sector can charge. They are agreements between governments on trade restrictions and tariffs

    27. Re: Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Married to a Catholic? Infidel!

    28. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing is, most of the Syrians who've fled (Muslim or otherwise) are very, VERY secular.

      They might be nominally Muslim, but it's really just cultural background noise to them, the same way Christianity is to a large chunk of urban America.

      Islam defines the holidays they take the day off from work & throw parties for friends and family members where at least one crazy uncle gets piss drunk and passes out in the bathtub, but the ugly parts of the Koran that Islamophobes love to endlessly quote are about as relevant to their daily lives as Levitical prohibitions against wearing clothing woven from two fibers or eating pork are to an American Catholic, mainstream Protestant, or Reform Jew.

    29. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Despite having less than 1/10th the population, Australia plans to take in 12,000 refugees from Syria this year vs USA's 10,000 - and with fewer restrictions.

    30. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canada has the same problem. It's a huge country, but 98% of the people who emigrate there end up living within 10km of downtown Vancouver, Edmonton, Toronto, Ottawa, or Montreal.

    31. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Maybe Australia should just ban regional locks and require that digital goods be priced within say 5% of the US/EU price.

      Well that would actually be downright illegal.

      However, we've done the next best thing, grey importing is perfectly legal. This is why I buy most of my games and media from overseas. There are entire businesses like Kogan which are set up to drop ship items from other countries to Australian consumers and even brick and mortar retailers like JB Hi-Fi have gotten in on the game, bypassing local distributors and buying direct from China, Hong Kong, Japan and wherever else.

      If you buy a radiator for a BWM in from BMW Australia it'll cost $800+ before fitting. If you buy it from a US based Euro parts retailer, you're paying $350 incl shipping for the same part... And this is 100% legal.

      Shoes, clothes, electronics, media, auto-parts, its no problem to buy it online and have it shipped to Oz. Of course local distributors hate it because Australia is no longer easy money but they only have themselves to blame.

      Now if you've chosen to lock yourself into Apple's ecosystem, well that's your own fault. As an Australian that wasn't that dumb, I'm going to import a German word: Schadenfreude.

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    32. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by quenda · · Score: 2

      immigrants != refugees. Refugees are less than 10% of net immigrants, and tend to settle where they are told, as they are usually dependent on public housing. The issue of course is population growth in the crowded cities, which is being driven by immigration, not births. Partly internal migration, but mostly external. This is no criticism of the individual migrants, but of government policy driven by the wealthy at the expense of the poor.

    33. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by antdude · · Score: 1

      "This is heavy."

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    34. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      This is another reason why it's good to be in the EU. Digital goods must be priced the same everywhere, and soon artificial regional restrictions will be removed

      On the other hand, being EU member nowadays means austerity policies that kill jobs and raise debts. If you are in the unlucky batch, in the end you have good product prices but no money in your pocket to buy it.

    35. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Let us not bunch Israel w/ the other countries you listed. Israel is neither an Arab nor a Muzzie country, so allowing Syrians in would only destabilize i.e. Islamize their state. You are right about Saudi Arabia & UAE, and I'd add the other Gulf states - Kuwait, Qatar and Oman. All the other countries listed are either non-Arab, even if Muslim countries, and the refugees would be as lost there as they are in Turkey, much less Europe.

    36. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      That EU law won't really matter. Easy enough to setup a shop outside the EU and charge what you like to people in the EU.

      That is what is coming...it's easy for virtual stuff like this.

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    37. Re:Must Be The Shipping Cost by unixisc · · Score: 1

      HE is married to a Catholic? That makes HER Muslim, since Muslims allow such marriages and automatically recognize the wife as having converted to Islam. Had you told me that a SHE married a Catholic, that would have been a lot more persuasive, since THOSE marriages are verboten in Islam

  2. Frustralia Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its called the Frustralia Tax and with the Aussie dollar dropping and the cost of shipping the apps to Australia, conversion to Southern Hemisphere, plus the need to support the local very knowledgeable distributors who can quickly come to our aid in our own timezone... well, we've come to accept this discrepancy decades ago.

    1. Re:Frustralia Tax by unixisc · · Score: 1

      You should consider setting up manufacturing home, or if that's too expensive, maybe Papua New Guinea. Heck, even Philippines, Thailand & Vietnam are close enough

    2. Re:Frustralia Tax by Altus · · Score: 1

      The summary is bs as usual. The story says apps are going from 1.29 to 1.49 which in US dollars comes to .79 and 1.09. 10% more than the us, not 50%. I'm guessing they anticipate a further slide in the near future.

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    3. Re:Frustralia Tax by Talderas · · Score: 1

      The distance between point A and point B is not the primary drive of costs of maritime shipping. Australia's problem is they have about five or six container ports which makes shipping to Australia horrendously cost inefficient due to their total population. Any one port cannot handle the total tonnage coming into Australia, which means container vessels are diverted among all of these ports and either have to spend more time loading and unloading to get to the goods being shipped to Australia or run in underloaded both of which cost money and drive up the costs to ship to Australia.

      There is a push right now to contract Australia to a single international container port and instead have local coastal shipping services handle delivery to the other container ports which would help in bringing down shipping costs by reducing the overhead costs of time spent in port or underloaded container vessels.

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    4. Re: Frustralia Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Apple had to pay 10% gst in Australia, it's part of the quoted price.
      After you take off gst, the price is $1.35
      Current exchange rates make that 98c USD

    5. Re:Frustralia Tax by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      The summary is bs as usual. The story says apps are going from 1.29 to 1.49 which in US dollars comes to .79 and 1.09. 10% more than the us, not 50%. I'm guessing they anticipate a further slide in the near future.

      It's Australian maths. $1.49 (Australian) is clearly 50 percent more than $0.99 (US).

    6. Re: Frustralia Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50% of $1 is 50c and $1 + 50c is $1.50. So it's 50% more. Makes sense to me.

    7. Re: Frustralia Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1.50 AUD is not 50% more than 0.99 USD

  3. It costs money to move product down under by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to the lower Netherlands of the planet. Besides, what are you going to do? Get a dingo to eat the babies of apple's top brass? Or if you are feeling way too roger, make product YOURSELVES and price it 50 - no 100% - higher than locals can get it.

  4. This is going to cost them by cerberusss · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Whoa, this is going to cost them! Oh wait, the App Store prices have hit rock bottom for a couple of years now, so I guess this is not going to cost them hardly anything at all.

    Disclaimer: I'm an iOS developer who does barely anything in the App Store. Instead, I develop for clients who at least pay me decently.

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    1. Re:This is going to cost them by unixisc · · Score: 0

      But how do your clients get your apps if it's not there in the store? Neither iPads nor iPhones have any SD slots or any way to access hard drives

    2. Re:This is going to cost them by SQLGuru · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's actually possible to self host a corporate app store. The apps expire once per year, but it's a lot less restrictive. I've worked on a self-updating iOS app for a client that they self host for their internal workers. Even though the app self updates, they still have to uninstall version-N and install version-N+1 each new calendar year.

    3. Re:This is going to cost them by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      Like SQLGuru below answered, the client I'm working for is a big national airliner in Europe. They have their own enterprise App Store.

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    4. Re:This is going to cost them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's almost as if you're in some kind of competitive marketplace, where if you produce something that everyone else can also produce cheaply and easily the price decreases.

      It's as if you almost need to think of something new, novel and unique that takes a bit of effort so that you can get people to buy your software instead of someone elses and make some money or something.

      It sounds awful!

    5. Re:This is going to cost them by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Is the re-install just required for employee-owned devices? I thought it was more transparent, at least for company devices.

    6. Re:This is going to cost them by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      Funny... So why the price for the US-based users is still the same?

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    7. Re: This is going to cost them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that like using an SE/30 as an enterprise 'server'?

    8. Re:This is going to cost them by tepples · · Score: 1

      Because Apple is a U.S. corporation, and AAPL's price is denominated in U.S. Dollars.

    9. Re:This is going to cost them by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Even if they are in the app-store doesn't mean they cost. Many or most are free downloads.

    10. Re: This is going to cost them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because TPP, that's why. Get used to it.

    11. Re:This is going to cost them by afidel · · Score: 1

      Or you just use MDM and push the new package before the old one has expired, if you don't change the icon nobody knows unless they happen to catch it when it's updating.

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    12. Re:This is going to cost them by guruevi · · Score: 1

      I assume that company has never heard of an MDM. With proper deployment tools, the employees never have to worry about installing any apps.

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  5. Good job many iPhones only have 16GB of storage! by Malc · · Score: 1

    I have an iPhone 5s from work, and one of the benefits of these devices having so little storage coupled with the bloating of applications in the last couple of years is that is that it's just too much of a pain in the arse to install a new app. There is very little to entice me to spend money on the app store. ;)

    Now I just wish all those websites that try to push you to their pointless app would stop interrupting my browsing.

  6. up to our necks in it we pause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No way,, ask Edward snowden your questions here on Slashdot continues,, truth+mercy=justice universal spiritual axioms... See you there

  7. Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People *pay* for apps?!

  8. Just the facts ma'am by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your math is wrong.
    AUD1.49/US.99 gives you a headline but not the Noble prize for Economics

  9. A matter of perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's unfortunate timing". Is it?

  10. Apple fleecing customers, Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple knows exactly how to fleece customers and I use some apps for sure on my iPhone but nothing I pay for. I find many apps kind of lousy in quality and support and whats even worse we still do not have some sort of connection with IOS apps and Mac Apps? Funny that over the last decade, I realized I have gone from being totally immersed in the Apple ecosystem to only really likely the operating systems, the hardware and that's it. I don't hardly use any services, apps, or anything else Apple. All my apps are third party installs outside of Apple's stores, my music still comes from iTunes but don't use any of the video content. I had a Apple TV once but never used it. My streaming comes mostly from Netflix, Amazon, and through Xbox. Apple to me just does not offer much in value anymore in services. They may have been cutting edge a few years ago. But they have been sleepers since then.

    1. Re:Apple fleecing customers, Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the free ones, they're fleecing you.

      The only ad system that anyone can use is theirs, which they take their standard 30%+ cut. Even ignoring that, they'll still charge the developer money to basically do nothing.

      But hey, you don't make billions of dollars a year in profits otherwise!

  11. Back to normal. by quenda · · Score: 1, Troll

    They were just holding off until after the TPP was signed.

  12. Apple considers the US to be 2nd World Economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It’s not all bad news for Aussie app users. 9-to-5Mac says Apple plans to introduce a low-price tier that will enable app developers to charge 99 cents for their apps. Previously that cut-price tier of paid apps was only available in “emerging markets”.

    Being that "emerging markets" is slang for developing countries such as Brazil and India, it's interesting that Apple would consider the US to be in this category as well. And yet, they deprive the US of much needed tax revenue to aid them in their development efforts.

  13. relative to US price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the whole problem was that the they are normalizing the price to keep it in line with the US price as the Australian currency is dropping relative to the dollar?

  14. out of alignment with the value of the Australian? by vvaduva · · Score: 1

    "out of alignment with the value of the Australian dollar,"

    Sounds like Apple disagrees.

  15. Re:out of alignment with the value of the Australi by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is simply the us price converted to aud, plus GST. The Aussie dollar has dropped from parity to 0.75/USD.

  16. Re:out of alignment with the value of the Australi by vvaduva · · Score: 1

    Yup, exactly. Not sure why people are bitching about it.

  17. Core Math at it again... by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 5, Informative

    The title of the parent post is totally misleading and shows a clear sign of not having passed basic algebra. Australians are going to pay 15% more for their apps and not 50%.

    First $1 AU = 0.70 US. Taking currency conversion into consideration, this means that a 0.99 App in the US store would cost $1.29 AU.
    Next, we see that that $1.29 apps are being raised to $1.49. That's a $0.20 AU or a 15% price hike.

    Converting that back to US, we see that the equivalent cost is $1.09 US vs the original $0.99 US. This $0.10 US difference equates to an actual 10% markup between the AU and the US markets.

    I would have to assume that Apple is passing on their operational overhead costs in the pricing of apps.

    Something to think about - developers are permitted to set the price of their apps. In the US, other than free, the minimum cost is $0.99 as that is the lowest tier that Apple permits. Should developers be forced to take a pay cut because they are selling in a market with a poor currency exchange rate or should they be permitted to sell their wares at a specific price they deem appropriate?

    Given that Apple is going to reintroduce a $0.99 tier in those markets, should developers be expected to sell their apps at a 30% discount in the US as well? After the Apple tax of 30% on goods sold in the store, the developer makes a $0.50 on an item they originally sold for $0.99. Is that fair?

    If developers are willing to take such a hit on their profits at the benefit of maybe selling more at the lower price and gaining a PR boost, then we will see them moving to the $0.99 plan in those poorer performing markets.

    1. Re:Core Math at it again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget the 10% GST is included in the price in Oz.

    2. Re:Core Math at it again... by almitydave · · Score: 2

      Maybe I'm missing something, but at 1 AUD = 0.70 USD, wouldn't 0.99 USD = 1.41 AUD (.99/.7~=1.41)? At that exchange rate, a 1.29 AUD app would be 0.90 USD. So the 1.49 is actually only a 4.3% markup over the equivalent USD price.

      If you look at the chart in the second link, you can see that if the AUD and USD are at parity, the old AUD price markup over USD ranged from 22% to 30%, but at $1 AU = $0.70 US, the markup of the new prices ranges from about 4% to 17%, which actually is closer to equivalent. Sucks for Australians, but US app developers will earn closer to the same amount per sale.

      Basically, at old AUD prices, Australian app purchasers were getting hosed when their dollar was strong, a deal when it became weak, and will be closer to even after the increase.

      Or I forgot how to math.

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    3. Re:Core Math at it again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, us Australians were getting hosed for a long time when our dollar was strong, and the big corps justified it as 'what the market could bear', and changing prices constantly based on exchange rate is costly, and confusing for the purchaser.
      But the US (Corporations) were benefiting from the price gouging.
      Now that our dollar is weak, they justify the price hike as a weak AUD. Doesn't that fly in the face of what they were saying when the dollar was parity?

    4. Re:Core Math at it again... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You missed one thing from your insightful post. The price of the AUD has plummeted. It was only the start of the year where 1AUD = 1.1USD. Increasing the price was simply a response to the fluctuation of the currency.

    5. Re: Core Math at it again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What really matters is how much $1 buys you in your respective countries and how hard I is to earn it, not the exchange rate.

    6. Re:Core Math at it again... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Agree. Our consumer cops are anything but toothless tigers. If the headline were true the ACCC would drag Apple into court, again.

      Aussies are accustomed to the dollar going up and down, our reserve bank tries to dampen the swings and keep it under parity. Recently our dollar has been high (GFC safe harbour + mining boom), good for importers, bad for exporters. The GFC is over and so is the mining boom, the exchange rate is now coming back to its normal rate (historically speaking). It's a tough balancing act for the reserve bank, they don't have control over the rate, the best they can do is influence it. I'm old enough to remember when Keating decided to float the Aussie dollar (early 80's), on the whole I think it has worked more or less as advertised.

      Bitching about the effect it has on "app store" prices comes across as naive and trite to me, are they so busy looking thru the app store window that they don't notice the robust economy that makes it possible to look thru that window?

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    7. Re: Core Math at it again... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Can't tell if you are serious or not but most Aussies are keenly aware that the exchange rate is what defines "how much $1 buys you in your respective countries and how hard [it] is to earn it".

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      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
  18. Re:out of alignment with the value of the Australi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Because price parity has never been a two way street. Each corporation likes to set the price to what they believe the market will bear. Any excuse like currency fluctuation allows them to use another reason to up the price. When the AUD eventually rises, you can bet the prices will not be reduced and realigned. That's why "people are bitching about it."

  19. Re:Oh No!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares, chuck another shrimp on the barbie mate

    It's PRAWN, you drongo!

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  21. A: because they're all shithole dictatorships. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't they flee to other Muslim countries?

    1. Re:A: because they're all shithole dictatorships. by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      who wouldn't take the opportunity to gtfo of the middle east?

    2. Re:A: because they're all shithole dictatorships. by Aaron+B+Lingwood · · Score: 2

      Why don't they flee to other Muslim countries?

      Because many of those countries have the same regimes that they are fleeing from.

      --
      [Rent This Space]
    3. Re:A: because they're all shithole dictatorships. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do. Why do you think they don't?

    4. Re:A: because they're all shithole dictatorships. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Many of them aren't Muslim (Syria has quite a few Christians)

      2. Most of the Syrian Muslims who've fled aren't particularly religious, and find neighboring Muslim countries to be about as appealing as the Bible Belt would be to a not-particularly-religious nominal Catholic. Picture the likely reactions of a mainline Protestant family at a church service where people were handling snakes & speaking in tongues. For a relatively secular Syrian walking into a Saudi mosque, it's a similar experience.

  22. Someone failed math by MassacrE · · Score: 2

    Unlike in the US where taxes are separate, GST (10%) is included in the app store price.

    $0.99 US pre-tax + 10% GST = $1.089 US post-tax

    currently $1 US = 1.3713 AUD

    so $1.089 US = 1.4933457 AUD
    So Aussies are in fact getting a $0.0033457 AUD discount over the US.

  23. Maths by quenda · · Score: 1

    us 99c = AUD 1.36 at todays rate. Australia, like most countries, includes tax in the quoted price, so add 10% tax to get $1.49 . The only surprise here is that Apple actually collects and pays the tax.

  24. Re:Oh No!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dingos will eat ALL their babies!

    Not Off-topic whoever Mod'd that post, do a search if you don't get the joke.

    As to the article, I'm pretty sure that the price increase was actually demanded by Apple users. I've read many times how they like to spend money, unlike those freeloading Android plebians, and the recent spate of low-cost Apps was making them feel too much alike.

  25. Re:Oh No!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could go for a bloomin onion as well, and a fosters.

  26. Price curve!! by leehwtsohg · · Score: 1

    You know, there is this thing called a price curve. At $0.99 you sell 10,000 copies of your cool game,
    at $0.79 you sell 20,000 copies, or maybe only 5,000. The price of a game does effect how many copies
    you sell, so just blindly assuming that developers "take a hit on their profit" because the price goes down
    to $0.79 is a very simplistic view.

    1. Re:Price curve!! by leehwtsohg · · Score: 1

      actually it is called a demand curve.... :\

    2. Re:Price curve!! by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 1

      I alluded to this in my last statement. Determining the proper selling price for a market is very much a science as well as trial and error. Sales teams go to great lengths to determine the proper selling prices.

      The bottom line is that at the current exchange rates, a developer selling in the lesser performing markets is taking the equivalent of twice the Apple Tax. As I noted, the developer sells their ware at $0.99 in the US. They see only 70% of that income. Given that the AUD's exchange rate is .7, the developer's going to see only $0.49 vs $0.70 per the US market.

      The math is pretty straight forward as to what the break even points would need to be at a given effective selling price and number of units sold.

      0.49 N1 >= 0.70 N2

      You have to sell 1.42 times as many units at the lower price point as the higher price point to break even. When that ratio is exceeded, the lower price point makes sense.

      Now, one can argue that the product is being sold in multiple markets and the developer can afford to take less profit since they are still taking a profit. We are only assuming they are turning a profit given the cost to build and market their ware. Who are we to decide what is a fair profit for the seller to take? The decision to sell at the lower effective sales price is the seller's decision to make. And, they will make that decision after analyzing their markets and what the markets determine is a fair price for their product and maximize their profits in a capitalistic fashion (assuming they are capitalists). Or, they can be altruistic, sell at a lower price point, and whatever profit they earn is sufficient.

  27. don't blame Apple for all this by supernova87a · · Score: 1

    Don't just blame Apple for all this. Blame the Australian government and their protectionist policies that enable companies to take advantage of customers because they have no alternatives.

    Go to Australia and you will see ridiculously priced cars, books, food items, software, tons of other consumer items. All protected from imports in the name of "promoting Australian industry", i.e. protecting them from competition.

    Software licenses that cost 2-3x in the US or 10x in India. And books? Are you kidding? Books? No -- it is real. Australian authors "protected" from competition by charging more for books from overseas. As if you can promote Australian writing by taxing foreign books more...

    These are the idiots that we put in charge of our interests.

    1. Re:don't blame Apple for all this by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Don't just blame Apple for all this. Blame the Australian government and their protectionist policies that enable companies to take advantage of customers because they have no alternatives.

      Horseshit. How about you blame the ideals that you think the price should be exactly the same despite a major change in the value of the dollar. Yes it applies a cost pressure to Australia but at some point Apple decided that a song costs X USD, and when the AUD starts falling against the USD then the cost of the song needs to rise accordingly.

      Protectionist my arse. Why shouldn't a company existing in a free market be able to charge what they want? It's not like you can't get your music from many other sources.

    2. Re:don't blame Apple for all this by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      The GP has a (well hidden) point, price gouging is a problem in Oz, particularly with software and other forms of IP, but it has nothing to do with this story or the exchange rate. Also fresh food is dirt cheap compared to (say) the UK, and we are second only to iceland when it comes to average number of books sold per head of population, so the claim that books are "overpriced" doesn't hold water either.

      Keating threw out protectionism (tariffs), floated the dollar, and gave the lower and middle classes greater access to the financial system, this all happened way back in the early 80's, IMO it was one of the best things any politician has ever done for us, someone had finally realised our economy had stagnated in 1955 and did something about it, and he was a traditional lefty to boot!!!.

      Anti-protectionism has been a bipartisan issue for a couple of decades now, the current right wing government are so anti-protectionists that we no longer have an auto industry, they packed up and left when their government subsidies were not renewed in the budget. I'm not sure if that a unilateral decision to drop subsides was a good or bad idea, other nations have no obligation to follow suit. It takes foresight and international cooperation (treaties) to do what Keating did, Abbot didn't appear to have any of that, but you never know, so I reserve judgement on his "scorched earth" policy for the next decade or so.

      --
      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
  28. Re:Oh No!! by KGIII · · Score: 1

    Foster's is piss that they export to gullible people and sell to tourists. They've got a few good beers in Australia. Foster's is not one of them.

    --
    "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  29. Its math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lets see US$1 = AU$1.37, now add on Australian sales taxes of 10% and we get AU$1.507

    I am always amazed by computer geeks who can't do maths and completely fail at basic logic. Instead the go straight to the woman magazines "OMG" routine.

  30. Re:no problem: easy workaround by galabar · · Score: 1

    No, the issue would be that you need to pay in US dollars. So, you still need to take the hit on the exchange rate.

  31. In other, unrelated news by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Something that costs $1.49AUD costs $0.98USD, after you take in to account the current exchange rate of 73c per $1AUD and the 10% sales tax included in the $1.49

    The aussie dollar has plummeted against the greenback.
    At the start if the year it was 80c,
    Mid 2014 it was 95c
    From 2011 to 2013 it was around $1.00

    Australians are getting apps for 1% less than Americans.

  32. Re:Oh No!! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Veblen software. Now I've seen it all...

    --
    Ezekiel 23:20
  33. Re:no problem: easy workaround by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    The guy with iphone has as much control over the exchange rate as Apple or you do, "absolutely fuck-all".

    --
    And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
  34. Fiber Optics by glennrrr · · Score: 1

    It seems as though much of the traffic into Australia is via fiber optic submarine cables such as the Southern Cross Cable (3.6 Tbits/sec), but I don't know how this compares to the amount of data shipped in via electron oscillations.

  35. The facts about Syrian Muzzies by unixisc · · Score: 1

    The number of Christians in this discussion are miniscule. Christians were there in the rebel held strongholds of Aleppo and Homs, from where they were driven out by the Free Syrian Army, and fled to Lebanon and Europe already. The ones currently fleeing Syria are not Christians. In fact, a lot of Iraqi Christians had fled Iraq as well.

    The vast majority of Syrians are Sunni Arabs. They are definitely 'religious' (read Jihadi): you are projecting the characterestics of the Baath regime onto the population that they mutually despise. The Baath Party was/is (for Iraq/Syria) a party of socialists belonging to minority Muslim sects. In Iraq, that minority was Sunni Arabs: in Syria, that minority was Alawites. As a result, both countries looked secular due to their opposition to the majority Muslim sects, who would define what Islamic means in their respective countries. In Iraq, it means Shia, which is the de-facto definition today in Baghdad, while in Syria, it means Sunni, which is what ISIS has defined, but which even other Syrian opposition forces, be it FAS or al-Nusra or Khorasan have it.

    For the vast majority of Syrians, who are Sunnis, there are plenty of neighboring options where to flee. Jordan is one, and they've already taken in a lot, as have Lebanon. But the other countries more to their south - Saudi Arabia in particular - has plenty of space in which to house them. It is a lot smoother transition than anywhere in Europe, or even Turkey, for that matter. For one, the distance is a lot shorter than the distance to Europe, and there are no seas in b/w where they'd drown trying to get there. The people are Sunni Arabs in both countries, so neither language nor religion would be an issue. It's a lie that Syrian Sunnis are secular: most of them owe allegiance to the Ikhwan/Muslim Brotherhood. Only difference b/w Syrian and Saudis are that the Saudis base their Islamic laws on Hanbali jurisprudence, while the Syrians do a combination of Hanafi and Shafi'i. That's peanuts compared to the differences b/w Syrians and Germans/Austrians/Hungarians/Romanians/Serbs.

    In fact, Europe's utopian approach to the refugee crisis has been wrong all along. It should have been to put pressure on the GCC to take in the refugees, who are more similar to them, and would assimilate a lot easier, if needed. Give a major incentive to the Saudis and others to stabilize Syria, rather than fund their own Jihadi groups there. Once Saudi Arabia has millions of Syrian refugees, they'll be very determined to restore a situation in Syria where the refugees can return.

  36. Re:out of alignment with the value of the Australi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly this.

    Whether it's the price of apps, of medicine, or anything else: Corporations' whole reason for being is to maximize profits. Therefore, they will always charge as much as they can get away with.

    "We need to charge $100,000 per year for this drug, since it costs us a billion dollars to develop!". That's BS. If they would have developed it for $2.50 they would still charge $100,000 if they could get away with it.

    Same here: The market tolerates it? They will charge more. It's not like there's real competition. Ok, can't push too far, since otherwise people will switch to Android. But the fanboy-stickiness is strong.

    That's why corporations love region locks: They can push the price as high as each market will bear and they reduce competition at the same time.

  37. Re:As an Australian by unixisc · · Score: 1

    A more humane approach would be to move them all to the Arabian peninsula countries, and let them handle it any which way