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Happy Ada Lovelace Day (findingada.com)

Today is Ada Lovelace Day, a time to celebrate the achievements of women in STEM fields. Several publications have put together lists of notable women to commemorate the day, such as tech pioneers, robotics experts, and historical engineers and scientists. Other are taking the opportunity to keep pushing against the elements of tech culture that remain sexist. From the BBC: On Ada Lovelace Day, four female engineers from around the world share their experiences of working in male-dominated professions. When Isis Anchalee's employer OneLogin asked her to take part in its recruitment campaign, she didn't rush to consult the selfie-loving Kardashian sisters for styling tips. "I was wearing very minimal make-up. I didn't brush my hair that day," she said. But the resulting image of Ms Anchalee created a social media storm when it appeared on Bart, the San Francisco metro. Lots of people questioned whether she really was an engineer. "It was not just limited to women — it resonates with every single person who doesn't fit with what the stereotype should look like," she said.

"My parents, my brother, my community, all were against me," said Sovita Dahal of her decision to pursue a career in technology. "I was going against traditional things. In my schooldays I was fascinated by electronic equipment like motors, transformers and LED lights. Later on this enthusiasm became my passion and ultimately my career," she said.

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  1. Re:Is there some barrier to women in STEM? by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's perfectly legitimate to move from asking why there aren't more of Group X working in a certain field to asking why there aren't more of Group X qualified to work in that field, or why there aren't more of Group X pursuing the relevant education.

  2. Re:Is there some barrier to women in STEM? by OhPlz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we want to treat people as equals, perhaps we shouldn't think of each other as belonging to arbitrary groups.

  3. Grace Hopper by i_ate_god · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She did far more for computer science than Ada Lovelace, and she did far more at defying social gender norms than Ada Lovelace.

    If anyone should be celebrated for breaking social barriers AND important contributions at the same time, it should be her, not Lovelace.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    1. Re:Grace Hopper by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, down that road lies a pissing contest with no end.

      Ada Lovelace was the first person to realise that an arithmetic machine could represent more than mere arithmetic. That was the first step on the path leading to the Church-Turing thesis. It seems simple and obvious now, but the general idea of computation as you think of it didn't exist.

      Admiral Hopper did a lot too and is also worth of celebration.

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    2. Re:Grace Hopper by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or, you know, we could just stop fixating on the name of the day and distracting ourselves from the many deserving women mentioned in TFA and the issues raised in TotherFA.

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  4. Re:Is there some barrier to women in STEM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    1. typical social 'justice' warrior using ad hominem instead of at least attempting an argument.

    2. The assholes are the ones justifying treatment of men and women as classes instead of looking at them as individuals. They have a conspiracy theory called patriarchy that claims all men are out to abuse women, so therefore privileged treatment of women in every context is justified. Little do they realize that this is just as oppressive to women as their constructed male bogeyman strawman. Why? It paints women as having no agency or ability by default. It denies them opportunities to earn respect as real equals.

    3. These people seem to think that sexual harassment is asking a woman out for coffee..or whatever she says is sexual harassment, because, you know, we should 'listen and believe' like anita sarkeesian suggests. Apparently, using our brains makes us assholes. Riiight.

    This story was submitted by amimojo. Why am I not surprised?

  5. Re:Wait a minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm tall, have long hair, I don't wear glasses and ride a Harley to work.
    Oh, and I'm an engineer. I get asked about it all the time.

    Should I be screaming Misogyny at people when they do?
    Is that the correct response now?

    Because I could totally do that.

    To answer why that person in the poster is getting questioned about it, she's young and attractive.
    And I mean she's attractive enough to model for a poster, which to be honest, most people hire a model for just that purpose.

  6. Re:Here here! by epyT-R · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hopefully because they earned it, not because 'social justice.'

  7. Re:Is there some barrier to women in STEM? by OhPlz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, you can group people by any number of different characteristics that really have no relevance to the workplace.

  8. Re:Here here! by Darinbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If they do earn it, half their misogynist colleagues will still think they didn't deserve it and are diversity or affirmative action hires. On slashdot it seems that even encouraging girls to pursue STEM fields is wrong headed, like we're supposed to stand back and patiently wait for stereotypes and preconcpetions and barriers to dissolve by themselves.

  9. Re:Here here! by epyT-R · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If they do earn it, half their misogynist colleagues will still think they didn't deserve it and are diversity or affirmative action hires

    Well, there you go. Time for affirmative action to go, right? That's why social justice policy is the real threat. It oppresses both men and women by corralling them into oppressor and victim roles, respectively, instead of treating them as individuals.

  10. Re:Here here! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As the BBC article mentions, one of the problems women face is that when they do make it people start muttering about how they probably only got there to fill a quota or improve the company's image. Congrats on being part of the problem.

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  11. Re:Is there some barrier to women in STEM? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. typical social 'justice' warrior using ad hominem instead of at least attempting an argument.

    Oh, the irony.

    "Ad hominem" means you hang a derogatory label on a person instead of refuting their assertions. Pop Quiz: What have you done in this statement?

  12. Re:Is there some barrier to women in STEM? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They have a conspiracy theory called patriarchy that claims all men are out to abuse women

    Many successful women will tell you that the greatest resistance to their advancement didn't come from men. It came from other women. If you want to see a real cat fight, assign a young woman to manage older women.

  13. Re:Wait a minute by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the woman must go find a career and work her ass off to be something, and raising a family has no value, right? It's really sad that so many people buy into this corporate bullshit.

    Wow that's selective reading to the point of dishonesty. No one said anything like that anywhere. Point is she was under immense pressure to do the family thing not have a career. It ought to be her choice, not yours.

    Yes, there is certainly some discrimination and its bad when it happens. What the person from Nepal describes I don't see as discrimination, I see it as society normal.

    So... a discriminatory society is not discriminatory because it's normal...?

    Twenty one years old is the middle of a woman's prime health and the best time for her to have kids

    So what? You're arguing what precisely? That she ought to do what you want because reasons?

    Until men can carry kids to full term and breast feed, there will be an expectation that the woman handles all of the difficult parts of having children. Pregnancy and childbirth are extremely demanding, and parenting is extremely difficult to do well.

    Nice sneaky false conflation there. Nothing about carrying kids to term stops men from being parents. Even stay at home ones.

    Instead of celebrating parenting and trumpeting how critical it is for society, we push "go make money and spend money" as the high road. That, is really really sad.

    And the reason that happens is people like you: instead of actually celebrating parenthood, you are complaining that other people are not living life the way you want them to which in practice mans women raising kids rather than having jobs. You're not celebrating parenthood, you're advocating regressive ideals.

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  14. Re:And that is it by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm done with slashdot.

    Thank god for that.

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