Terahertz Radiation To Enable Portable Particle Accelerators (www.desy.de)
Zothecula writes with this Gizmag story about an interdisciplinary team of researchers who have built the first prototype of a miniature particle accelerator that uses terahertz radiation. "Researchers at MIT in the US and DESY (Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron) in Germany have developed a technology that could shrink particle accelerators by a factor of 100 or more. The basic building block of the accelerator uses high-frequency electromagnetic waves and is just 1.5 cm (0.6 in) long and 1 mm (0.04 in) thick, with this drastic size reduction potentially benefitting the fields of medicine, materials science and particle physics, among others."
Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.
- Dr. Venkman; Ghostbusters
One small step for particle accelerators, one giant step for mankind! This brings us one step closer to the replicator!
I wonder if this could bring ion power within our reach as a propulsion mechanism?
so is this going show at 1060 west addison?
Charlie Stross wrote a short story, "Dechlorinating the Moderator" a while back about a convention of hobbyist particle physics geeks using stuff like this to produce Higgs bosons in a hotel's banqueting suite.
I believe this advance actually makes linear accelerators better. I looked at the wording and they seem to focus on linear accelerators, which strongly implies to me that this is not as useful for loops.
Of course, that might mean that existing linear accelerators will be better, but that won't help with your LHCs out there.
We already have ion engines. They just aren't all that useful in a gravity well, but pretty efficient outside of one.
see Spengler, E., Stantz, R., 1984
Big deal. Sony sold pocket-sized particle accelerators in the 1980s.
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We have ion engines since decades, e.g. as positioning engines in satellites.
We had a space probe using an ion engine to go to the moon and circle it.
You must be out of the loop for quite a while.
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WTF, this is not a 'linear accelerator', this is a synchrotron.
How fast do you think you get with an acceleration distance of less than an inch?
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"Among the possible applications, Kärtner told us that the technology could in principle also be adapted to produce miniaturized but still powerful circular accelerators like the LHC."
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The limitation for the LHC energy is the strength of the bending magnets, and for electron synchrotrons the limit is synchrotron radiation (which increases with the fourth power of energy, so more power in won't get you much further). It's not obvious how this can improve circular accelerators.
The problem with ion drives is simple: F=mv and KE = 1/2mv^2.
The force (thrust) you get from a rocket is proportional to the velocity of its exhaust, but the energy you need goes up with the square of the velocity. The limitation on ion engines is the power source, not the engines themselves.
We are already using ion engines, though only for station-keeping (maintaining an existing orbit) or on small probes with big solar panels which can spend months or years performing orbital manoeuvres.
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Could this make possible a fission reacxtor design that requires a continuous input of neutrons (or protons) to keep the reaction going? To scram the reactor, just flick the Off switch instead of having to move moderator rods physically into place and then keep coolant circulating until most heat of decay is removed.
There have been designs for high frequency accelerators for a long time. These range from normal ~few GHz machines like SLAC, to 10s of GHz (CLIC - proposed), to THz to direct optical acceleration. There are also plasma based 2-beam accelerators which have extremely high gradients (10 GeV/M).
There are some general trade-offs:
Higher frequency -> more energy / length, but lower beam charge and tighter tolerances, and usually lower efficiency. Depending on the application this may or may not be a good trade, but very high frequency accelerators have so far found limited practical application. Most applications for high energy also require fairly high beam power and good beam quality.
In particular high energy physics accelerators require very high average beam power (megawatts), which require high wall-plug efficiency, (to keep operating costs down). So far none of the high frequency accelerator designs look practical for this application. In addition for a high energy physics machine the final focus system is kilometers long, so even if the accelerators could shrink, it in no way results in a tiny machine.
There is a lot of interest in high frequency accelerators for medical and other low energy low power applications. This is a case where there are a number of ways to solve the problem and we need to see which technology is ultimately the cheapest / easiest. Here mm-wave is competing with lasers and other types.
For comparison, a conventional (x-band) 20MeV accelerator is 20cm long. The shielding for a 20MeV beam (which can generate neutrons) could easily be a meter of concrete.
I'm not knocking this technology at all, it may be very useful for some applications. I just want to counter the idea that it will transform particle accelerators.
Joe Frisch
SLAC
Yes, if you double the exhaust velocity, you need to increase the energy by 4x assuming the same amount of exaust mass, but you gain more than 4x the acceleration due to efficiency. You have super linear gains because you conserve 100% of the increased energy, but you gain increase efficiency, allowing you to have better acceleration for the amount of energy you consume.
The article talks about linear accelerators. Which I find really interesting because that's just a stunningly high gradient for a linac. If it doesn't come at a cost of efficiency (superconducting linacs being extremely efficient accelerators, unlike say the ultracompact plasma wave accelerators that have been being researched) or power density it could be a godsend to anything that needs a high-power ion or electron source - for example accelerator-driven fission, actinide burning, general spallation neutron sources, etc. Assuming it can operate in CW mode.... Even if it can't it'd be great for medical accelerators.
Heck, with gradients this high you could be putting linacs on spacecraft as ion engines and getting some nutty-high ISP figures.
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They're accelerating electrons, not photons. Electrons have mass and thus never hit "light speed", as that would be a state of infinite energy, among other problems.
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Someone may need to re-study his basic physics.
F = ma, not mv.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
He meant: F=(dm/dt)v for thrust and P=(dm/dt)v^2/2 for power. Alternatively p=mv for momentum and KE=mv^2/2. Your F=ma is not very relevant either for analyzing propulsion mechanisms.
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Unless you want to figure the acceleration of the space vehicle you get for a given force from the engine.
I've been reading articles about short accelerators for the past several decades, e.g. lasers, computer-pulsed EMF. Yet to see one to scale up to challenge existing accelerators.
But a synchrotron is not a linac :)
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Speak for yourself, my cat is a LINAC.
Completely unrelated topic: do you have any ideas on how to stop the SPCA from harassing you about so-called "disgusting and immoral body modifications to a pet"? Preferably a means that will cause them to rue the day that they got involved? I have a small LINAC, if that would help - I just need to find him, little Schrodinger is hiding somewhere under the bed right now and doesn't want to come out.
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