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Facebook Notifies Users of Potential Nation-State Attacks (facebook.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Facebook has announced its plans to notify users if they are under threat from state-sponsored cyberattacks. The social media giant proposes a notification system triggered when its algorithms suspect nation-state activity. The alert will pop up on the user's Facebook page, warning them of the danger and advising them to switch on login approvals, which require the individual to enter a security code sent to them from Facebook.

58 comments

  1. Service that sells personal info of narcissists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A service that sells personal info of narcissists is willing to tell them they are important in exchange for their cell phone number?

    Color me shocked!

    1. Re:Service that sells personal info of narcissists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU ARE UNDER A CYBER ATTACK
      (please give us a/your guid^H phone number to be sure;)

      reminds me of those classic "your credit card might be compromised" ads, "just enter your card number to find out!"

      just put a public map up of IDS detected attacks, brute forcers, proxy/tor attacks and the ISP owner, shame the bad actors/countries into action, have a live feed of type of attack, duration etc, probably quite interesting on facebooks scale.

    2. Re:Service that sells personal info of narcissists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      !! AN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE IS TRYING TO HACK YOUR ACCOUNT !!

      *Posts selfie in front of computer screen showing warning message*

      "I'm not surprised. That's how important my activities are to the world."

  2. Notifications? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

    I consider someone spying on me/my accounts without a warrant to be a targeted attack.

    So does this notification include activity by Facebook and the good ol' U.S. of A? NSA?

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    1. Re:Notifications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YES! Of course! You bet! You better!

    2. Re:Notifications? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

      Perhaps i'll be able to post the complete un-adulterated copy of an email sent to me by Facebook detailing how a nation-state (USA) is spying on me and attacking me via my (almost never used, lame-ass) Facebook account, on Slashdot.

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      Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
    3. Re:Notifications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does this notification include activity by ... NSA?

      Sure it does! It says so right there in the headline: Facebook Notifies Users of Potential Nation-State Attacks. Duh!

    4. Re:Notifications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you expect privacy on a social networking site, then maybe the internet is not for you. Expecting privacy on something that is in the public domain such as the internet is just naive.

    5. Re:Notifications? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

      "Expecting privacy on something that is in the public domain such as the internet is just naive."

      Why are you attempting to post anonymously then?

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      Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
    6. Re:Notifications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i hate when people just string words together just to indicate how ticked off they are with no regard for meaning. Spying on you WITH a warrant is also a targetted attack. Wholesale spying on everybody is not targetted. So all your words are just words. We get it, you are ticked off, but why take leave of your senses?

  3. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't.
    If you are willing to put all of your life on facebook, you shouldn't expect any privacy.

  4. Propaganda Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this seems like a great way to shape a billion users opinions on who the bad-guy is; I suspect it will regularly tell people the Chinese are attacking, and consistently ignore mentioning what the NSA are doing. Facebook is turning into a U.S propaganda machine.

  5. Yeah, right ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    Sorry, but Facebook is an entity who I fully believe will lie to you if it means they can get more information about you.

    ZOMG, teh nation states are the hax0rs, give us your cell phone number, three additional email accounts and their passwords, your credit card number, and the names of your parents.

    I believe this will be purely FUD and other bullshit, which will somehow benefit Facebook.

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    1. Re:Yeah, right ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was my first thought.

    2. Re:Yeah, right ... by Shadow+IT+Ninja · · Score: 1

      I don't see how this could benefit Facebook. It just highlights how dangerous all that data about you and your friends really is and how much the ordinary person does have to hide. My guess is that they are trying to appease various US ally governments, especially the British. If you had watched the BBC over the last decade, you would know that they consider Facbook to be a tool that can be exploited by terrorists. The British military recommends against their soldiers using Facebook and if they do, to follow a list of security recommendations. Iran is particularly known for targeting friends and family of their enemies.

    3. Re:Yeah, right ... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I don't see how this could benefit Facebook.

      Because they have your phone number.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    4. Re:Yeah, right ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and Login Approvals don't do shit vs State-sponsored attacks.

      Since those security codes travel through unencrypted channels on the way to your phone. And your phone messages are likely to be logged/archived by your telco too. How good are telcos at protecting such stuff from state-sponsored actors?

      So Facebook just wants more phone numbers and/or Facebook is helping the less incompetent State-sponsored actors break into your account when they want to.

      Either way make sure you don't use Facebook logins for anything important, and fill-in faked info in your Facebook account.

    5. Re:Yeah, right ... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but Facebook is an entity who I fully believe will lie to you if it means they can get more information about you.

      Why? By all accounts they have always been very up front and honest about the information they collect on you and what they do with that information. Besides they have no need to lie. 1 billion people are literally lining up to give them information and the population in general doesn't seem to care about what information the corporations have about them.

      They have no reason to lie.

    6. Re:Yeah, right ... by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Plausible deniability.

      FB User: "Hey, how did all of my personal details and stuff I uploaded to Facebook end up all over the internet."
      FB: "Sorry, it was nation-state actors, nothing we could do."

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    7. Re:Yeah, right ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Whoops, it was a false positive, you know how it is. We'll hang on to this info for future use anyway"

  6. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  7. Re:You cows don't care if you are surveilled or no by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 0

    Naw man, it means the grass is good, moo

  8. meow by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    Oh no, Putin's after Fluffy the Kitten again!

  9. Show it to everyone in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because you're the target of a state-sponsored advanced persistent threat every day of your lives.

  10. Everybody... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they will send a message to all users warning them about the NSA and GCHQ - what would be the point in that?

  11. Re:Here's one you can copy and paste. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1, Troll

    I was gonna suggest that you should just change your password to "governments_and_law_enforcement_are_not_permitted_to_snoop_on_this_account". Turns out that it works like a charm, since it's well known that cops and government agents have to tell you they're a cop if you ask, "You a cop?" and that they aren't allowed to access data that you post publicly if it says it's off-limits to them.

  12. It's just an updated feature by willworkforbeer · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's already an alert system to signal you that FaceBook is invading your privacy....
    Whenever you see the iconic FaceBook logo on a page, heads up.

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    1. Re:It's just an updated feature by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      crap - posting to canx bad mod...

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    2. Re:It's just an updated feature by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know if not allowing scripts from facebook.com (as with Noscript for example) is sufficient to stop the tracking?

    3. Re:It's just an updated feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better to put all the related domains in a host file. No guarantee since many companies would sell your data to third parties for pennies. If you use noscript then you may already be aware of all the other third parties that have their scripts running on popular websites.

  13. With of course... by nrasch · · Score: 0

    With of course the usual back doors and exceptions for the NSA.

    1. Re:With of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, you missed it, it IS the backdoor!:

      when they send you the login code, they are sending it via email or text which is exactly what the nation-state can read in the clear, so they now will gain access to your account.

  14. How about Facebook-sponsored cyberattacks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a service out there that will notify you when you're under imminent threat of Facebook attacking your privacy? Trick question, Facebook is always attacking your privacy!

  15. Re:Here's one you can copy and paste. by zlives · · Score: 1

    i am glad that works for you.

  16. "under threat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't we all under constant threat from nation states? That's what nation states *do*. Don't think so? Refuse to pay your property taxes and refuse to leave your property, and see how long it takes the men with guns to show up.

    1. Re:"under threat" by tekrat · · Score: 2

      Just stand your ground like Cliven Bundy!
      He owes a million bucks and hasn't paid a dime!

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      If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
  17. duck test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give it the duck test: if it walks like fascism; if it quacks like fascism; and if it acts like fascism; then it must be fascism!

  18. Excellent timing. by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    This is exactly what we'll need if the Conservatives are voted in again.

  19. While they are doing this by jmcwork · · Score: 1

    Code that was embedded in a cute kitten video is crawling through Facebook collecting all kinds of data on you. (Am I starting to sound paranoid?)

  20. Defective by Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Considering that Facebook is one of the FBI's greatest ally, it should warn you of "Nation State activity" each time you log in, since the entire database can be queried remotely by the Nation State. Furthermore, given that NSA Letters can gag Facebook, we can demonstrate that their pop-up about being targeted by Nation States is defective by design.

  21. Re:Here's one you can copy and paste. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is absolute bullshit. They can and will lie to you if asked that question.

  22. Cry Wolf syndrome by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 1

    There have been so many FB privacy hoaxes mega-shared like "FB will reset your preferences so all your personal data is shared with third party marketers" that I stopped taking any of them seriously. Too many "cry wolf" syndromes. I have very little private info on my FB page - I refuse to divulge my employer, home address, high school, college, birth date, etc. My occupation is even listed as "professional crash test dummy". I refuse to put anything on there of value to marketers, and it would be useless to a nation-state attack.

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    1. Re:Cry Wolf syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about all the times Facebook creates a new privacy category formerly included in another one but now seperate and set to share?

  23. Re:Here's one you can copy and paste. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

    They can and will lie to you if asked that question.

    Exactly. It appears that my comment is coming dangerously close to being an example of Poe's Law, minus the extremism.

    But yes, as you said, it's BS. That was the reason I mentioned it in my comment, in fact. Moreover, this is Facebook we're talking about, so it's safe to assume that they're salting and hashing their user's passwords, meaning that my suggestion to set your password to a message intended for reading is even more nonsensical.

  24. DuckDuckGo has a message when linking to youtube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I incidentally noticed today that DuckDuckGo has a warning message about tracking when linking to youtube via a search result. I have no idea if this is something new, or if it's been like that for a while.

  25. Canary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So do it right and add a canary. Every day the status page says we are not under cyber attack. The message disappears when a cyber attack is detected.

    Or post your recommended duress canary method below

  26. From the company which can't protect it's database by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every six months this companies entire database of insanely personal supposed private information is leaked? Yea- if there was any truth to this facebook would simply warn *every* user that at least one state had already compromised everything.

  27. Who will protect us from the Red Menace? by nickweller · · Score: 1

    Will these 'state-sponsored cyberattacks' run on Apple OS X or Linux?

  28. OMG People!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL the Foreignians are attacking! Get out the Nyan Cat memes and snap a selfie with the hacker! IANAL but I think that attacking me is just... so... bummer!

    Like, you know, right?

  29. NSL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But will Facebook notify Americans targeted by NSL?

  30. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    good links. The tribe is behind it all. They do the act on all sides.

  31. Xi Jinping's biggest fan is going to tell you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mark wanted Xi Jinping to name his child. Will Facebook tell you if more important countries are spying on you?

  32. Re:Here's one you can copy and paste. by DeVilla · · Score: 1

    Now I know you're a troll. I looked up Poe's Law and it has nothing to do with the Police being required to tell you who they are. I think that was like in the Declaration of Independence or something.

  33. Re:Here's one you can copy and paste. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

    Articles of Confederation, I believe, but they still have authority in the South over the Constitution since they came first! Oh, and Texas retained its right to secede when it joined the US. Don't let them tell you otherwise.