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The Hostile Email Landscape (liminality.xyz)

An anonymous reader writes: As we consolidate on just a few major email services, it becomes more and more difficult to launch your own mail server. From the article: "Email perfectly embodies the spirit of the internet: independent mail hosts exchanging messages, no host more or less important than any other. Joining the network is as easy as installing Sendmail and slapping on an MX record. At least, that used to be the case. If you were to launch a new mail server right now, many networks would simply refuse to speak to you. The problem: reputation. ... Earlier this year I moved my personal email from Google Apps to a self-hosted server, with hopes of launching a paid mail service à la Fastmail on the same infrastructure. ... I had no issues sending to other servers running Postfix or Exim; SpamAssassin happily gave me a 0.0 score, but most big services and corporate mail servers were rejecting my mail, or flagging it as spam: Outlook.com accepted my email, but discarded it. GMail flagged me as spam. MimeCast put my mail into a perpetual greylist. Corporate networks using Microsoft's Online Exchange Protection bounced my mail."

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  1. Re:Don't Know How You Made That Conclusion by beelsebob · · Score: 5, Informative

    More likely, the original poster simply has his DNS misconfigured in some weird way, and doesn't know it.

  2. Re:Don't Know How You Made That Conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I second that emotion. Current *big* players are trying to limit spam and phishing, and require a few ducks in a row before you stop getting caught in their filters. I suspect proper analysis of the configurations and logs would pinpoint the issue. DNS would be a quick start but the problem could be in a few places depending on what mail implementation he's using. On another note, is it possible OPs domain has been used for spam/phishing in the past? The UNI I work has dealt with blacklists in the past and it was merely a case of spoofing and those adding us to blacklists didn't do their diligence in tacking it down properly. *Posted anon as to not get fired*

  3. Re:Don't Know How You Made That Conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    +1
    Rejections in my experience have nearly always always been related to the PTR record needs to be pointing to the domain actually sending the email, not the domain name in the email address. My limited understanding is this:

    So if my email address matt@example.com uses mail.isp.com on port 25 to send email then the PTR needs for the ip address isp,com sends from needs to say mail.isp.com... not example.com as you might expect.

    when isp.com talks to another smtp server it will be asked to id itself. The server should reply with its FQDN and it is this that the PTR record for the servers id needs to point to . Even if that server hosts hundreds of websites and email accounts.

    I believe most VPS hosts allow this to be changed to whatever you want if you are given a fixed ip address. If they don't allow this to be changed then problems will occur and if you are handling emails you need to check before signing up. The PTR record is not applicable to a domain but to an IP address. You can only have one PTR record for an IP address.

    That is if my memory serves correctly. When I set up email servers, I always seem to forget this until I do sending tests to yahoo and other big boys. Then I set it properly and things behave.

    Other problems happen if using microsoft exchange and the srv fields in txt records for the dns are not set exactly right. Though I don't have to fiddle with this for obvious reasons.