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Former Governor On Holding the Department of Energy Accountable In Idaho (thebulletin.org)

Lasrick writes: "I have been involved in government at the state and federal level for a long time and have had my share of political and legal run-ins with government agencies, but rarely in more than 50 years in politics have I encountered a government agency more committed to secrecy—perhaps even deception—than the US Department of Energy." So writes former governor of Idaho Cecil D. Andrus in this account of the U.S. government's plan to ship commercial spent fuel to the Idaho National Lab for what the feds call "research" but what the Andrus (and his predecessor) feel is an attempt to store high level nuclear waste in Idaho. According to him, despite Freedom of Information Act requests, the federal government is not sharing its plan for the waste once it gets to Idaho. This is a disturbing tale of government secrecy and stonewalling, and the problem with nuclear waste: no one wants it in their backyard.

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  1. Re:If I were the DOE I'd do it to. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Informative
    They are only talking about a two shipments for research purposes. Not all the fuel from anywhere, and not any more shipments. They are clear in their intentions, but in the light of political hyperbole, I guess its OK to assume there is some big secret, after all, how can you prove there isn't some big secret. Ignorance and irrational fear drive too much bullshit these days. This fuel is absolutely nothing compared to the Cold War waste many of these facilities are dealing with already.

    One shipment would be used to research fuel recycling techniques. The other would be used to research what happens to the fuel when it is placed in storage casks for years or decades.

    INL is the perfect place to do this work.

    http://www.idahostatesman.com/...

  2. Re:Dirty weapons by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Over top of the Snake River Aquifer is to you a perfect place? Which is upstream of 3 different states and supplies water for significant percentage of the U.S. Agriculture.

    http://pubs.usgs.gov/ha/ha730/...

  3. Re:The dour truth of the matter is by eskayp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Historically Idaho IS where the preppers, sagebrush rebels, neonazis, and northwest tea party types form their enclaves.
    But if you want anything done, just contact someone connected to the sitting Butch Otter governorship.
    'Gladiator School' prisons and defrauding Idaho taxpayers? Done!
    Illegal ISP contracts issued to connected overpriced bidders? Done!
    Somehow DOE has missed the boat so far. NOT done -- YET.
    It would just be one more confrontational issue between tea party and traditional corporate Republicans.
    Idaho's last Republican caucus was an abortion, dead on arrival as each contingent took its half of the fetal corpse home rather than reach accord.
    It was a less civil precursor of this year's feuds in the U.S. House of Representatives.
    As one of the reddest of red states, don't worry that Democrats will be allowed to intercede on behalf of average citizens.

    --
    I didn't desert Windows; Windows deserted me: BSOD
  4. Re:If I were the DOE I'd do it to. by imidan · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of the issues that we deal with in the Northwest is that the federal government, particularly the DOE, has generated (and shipped in) a lot of hazardous nuclear waste in the area over the years and has horribly mismanaged its disposition. The epic levels of contamination at the Hanford site are mind boggling--and right on the banks of the Columbia River. They buried toxic waste on the reservation at the Idaho National Lab that we now have no records of--we don't know what it was or exactly where it's buried.

    They keep promising to clean up their mess, but then they never seem to quite get around to fulfilling their promises. We end up having to sue them to get them to take action. Even then, they try to shirk as much responsibility as they can. There isn't a lot of trust of the DOE in this area of the country.

  5. Re:If I were the DOE I'd do it to. by Rutulian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hanford was the site of the first nuclear reactor of its design, used to produce plutonium during WWII. The site was subsequently expanded to produce more plutonium, and some energy, through the Cold War. It is so messed up because of a lot of crap that went on during that time period: not knowing anything about industrial nuclear reactors, not having any kind of waste storage or processing plan, lots of scale-up, Cold War secrecy, etc. So, yeah, Hanford is a mess, but I think it is wrong to inhibit any kind of progress due to problems that were mostly documented more than 40 years ago. No waste was shipped to Hanford. The current DOE is very aware of the problems at Hanford and is actively trying to clean it up, but it takes a lot of time...and you need somewhere to store the waste. Without a waste storage facility, there is no way to clean up Hanford, and the barrels are going to keep leaking because most of them are more than 50 years old (never intended to be long-term waste storage).

  6. I've always thought by FrozenGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that spent nuclear waste ought to be stored in the same state in which it was originally used. If you don't want to deal with the waste, don't burn the fuel in the first place.

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    linquendum tondere
    1. Re:I've always thought by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem is that the two scenarios (storage and processing) have different ideal geological requirements.

      This is no different than any other activities humans have ever undertaken. Building a house is typically done in a different place than the landfill used to put the waste products. People are just as usual applying different standards to nuclear vs the rest of the industry which stores its waste in the air.

      The best company to deal with one part of a process is not necessarily the best to deal with another. This applies to basically the production / manufacturing of everything humans have ever done except for small hunter / gatherer villages.

  7. Re:If I were the DOE I'd do it to. by imidan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I understand that the problems at Hanford have complex causes with long history. But what the former governor seems to be concerned about is a lack of transparency from DOE, which is an issue that people in the Northwest have been fighting for years (hence the lack of trust).

    Listen, I understand that some level of contamination is unavoidable. But they've got liquid nuclear waste leaking out of tanks into the soil at the banks of the Columbia River, and they can't just keep telling us that they're "working on it". I'm sorry that they did such a terrible job planning for future needs, and I get that part of the reason for that is because they were doing completely new work, but another part of it was a wanton disregard for the environmental and human consequences of building their nuclear arsenal. There was plenty of money to build the bombs, but today it seems to have dried up: DOE budgets something like $3 billion per year for cleanup, but actually gets about $2 billion. I realize that's not all DOE's fault, but this is the reality. The federal government made an enormous, toxic mess in Eastern Washington and now they're dragging their feet when it comes time to clean it up.

    But again, the issue in this article is a lack of trust. The DOE may be completely sincere in their cleanup efforts, but if they won't communicate about it, and we have to pry details out of them with FOIA requests, then there is no reason for the states to believe in that sincerity. This is, after all, the organization that turned 586 square miles of Washington State into the most heavily contaminated nuclear waste dump in the country. Why should the people of Washington believe that this organization has their best interests in mind?

    [Also, one note: though many shipments of waste to Hanford have been stopped before they occurred, there are at least 2 shipments of nuclear waste that were delivered there from a DOE facility in California. The amount transferred is obviously dwarfed by the scale of waste products generated on site, but there is great fear that DOE just wants to ship all of this mess to Hanford and then leave it there indefinitely--likely in "temporary" storage facilities that are a continuation of the same irresponsible policies that created this problem in the first place.]