Sen. Ron Wyden Explains the Fight Ahead Over CISA

blottsie writes: Sen. Ron Wyden has led the fight against the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA), which the Senate advanced on Thursday in a 84-14 vote. In a new interview with the Daily Dot, Wyden explains why privacy advocates call CISA a "surveillance bill," and discusses why an amendment from Sen. Whitehouse could make CISA more problematic for Internet users' civil liberties.

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CISA is a "done deal"

[turkeydance]

congress-critters are scared of cyber-spooks, so spooks get what spooks want. similar to -back in the day- Hoover's FBI which had the "dirt" on everyone of national political consequence.

Re:CISA is a "done deal"

[Anonymous Coward]

congress-critters are scared of cyber-spooks, so spooks get what spooks want.
similar to -back in the day- Hoover's FBI which had the "dirt" on everyone of national political consequence.

How do you know this?

Re:CISA is a "done deal"

[Anonymous Coward]

snowden

Re:CISA is a "done deal"

[F.Ultra]

According to rumor Hoovers dirt files where seen as so dangerous that when he died people rushed to get to those files not to use them themselves but to make sure that they where burned.

Re:CISA is a "done deal"

[Anonymous Coward]

"How do you know this?"

You need to get up to speed on what has been going on... Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought.

Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY

Brezinski at a press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIZBCQ79g

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

From war is a racket:

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."[p. 10]

"War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23]

"The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations." [p. 24]

General Butler is especially trenchant when he looks at post-war casualties. He writes with great emotion about the thousands of tramautized soldiers, many of who lose their minds and are penned like animals until they die, and he notes that in his time, returning veterans are three times more likely to die prematurely than those who stayed home.

http://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated/dp/0922915865/">War is a racket

US distribution of wealth

https://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

The Centre for Investigative Journalism

http://www.tcij.org/

Some history on US imperialism by us corporations.

https://kurukshetra1.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/a-brief-history-of-imperialism-and-state-violence-in-colombia/

Divine Authority

[Anonymous Coward]

Everything can be undone and fixed when I have divine authority over the industry.

If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

They will just change the name slightly and try to pass it again.. Soap, Cispa, Crispa, Pisspa, etc..

This is the Republican way.. then they will take everything they did and try to say that Obama did it, or Democrat -X did what they did..

Republicans are morons

Re:If they don't get this one

[YrWrstNtmr]

Yes, all those suck. Unfortunately, the Democrats are no better. DMCA, COPA, etc.

Re:If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

thats because corps are people too

Re:If they don't get this one

[youngone]

Dianne Feinstein is one of the Senators pushing this. Pretty sure she's a Democrat. Not that there's any real difference.

Re: If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

That woman is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party. If she was a Republican she'd be an embarrassment to them too, not that they need help with that.

Re:If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

You didn't graduate high school did you?

know how I know?

You still don't do your homework!

This is a republican bill supported by a republican congress and just because they have dirt on one or two democrats does not mean the two parties are the same.

You are an idiot and on top of that think you are smart which makes you even dumber. Go back to flipping burgers asshole, your manager is watching you!

Re: If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought she was a zionist jew who sold out America longgggg ago?

Re: If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

>>>/pol/

Re:If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

Republicrats, who are these republicans you speak of with unlimited power?
One party rule, da comrade

Re: If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

Feinstein is a cookie cutter democrat. Authoritarian, socialist...

Re:If they don't get this one

[Anonymous Coward]

That would make you a fool. NEITHER of the parties serve the people. The two party system is a trick designed to fool people into thinking it works.

Globalist Bankers are responsible for this, not a political party.

the need is already served. Weekly threat reports

[raymorris]

This also isn't really a case of balancing the pros and cons. The justification is to allow private business to share information about emerging security threats. Just like Alert Logic's existing weekly threat report, which they manage to produce without any legislation or special protections from privacy laws:
https://www.alertlogic.com/res...

They also manage to do longer term analysis and share it, without revealing personal information:
https://www.alertlogic.com/res...

There are of course many other companies and organizations already compiling and sharing information about emerging threats - no special laws required.

Good job, Oregon

[Anonymous Coward]

Never forget that Wyden was the primary reason we are not living with SOPA today. Too bad he is outnumbered by the other senators who are more interested in padding their bank accounts rather than serving the American people.

Re:Good job, Oregon

[Anonymous Coward]

This. Ron Wyden has done more to protect our rights than the vast majority of the other politicians involved.

CISA - Comprehensive Internet Surveilence Act

[t0mek]

To Slashdot editors: the acronym in the summary is wrongly explained!