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Andy Kaufman and Redd Foxx To Tour As Holograms

HughPickens.com writes: Dave Itzkoff writes in the NYT that years after their deaths Andy Kaufman and Redd Foxx will be united in a most unlikely way as Hologram USA, a technology company that specializes in visual recreations of celebrities, will present shows with hologramic likenesses of Andy Kaufman and Redd Foxx across the country. "They're comedy icons. Both of them influenced so many comedians after them," says Alki David adding that the company is "working with other estates of famous funny guys and funny girls, these just happened to be amenable estates who see the vision." David says that the hologram shows featuring these comedians would include some of their best-known material — say, Andy Kaufman lip-syncing the "Mighty Mouse" theme on the debut episode of "Saturday Night Live" — as well as narrative segments that dramatize biographical details. The shows will have residencies in multiple locations in tourist-oriented cities across the country and will play several times a day for the first year and then eventually be put on a rotation with other acts. As for the future, "there are an awful lot of dead celebrities," concludes David. "There are an awful lot of dead people with a lot of followers. The fresher the memory, the bigger the star."

53 comments

  1. Please no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would be just WAY too creepy...

    1. Re:Please no. by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      The really creepy part is when someone's estate whores our their long-dead likeness to shill for products. Imagine a holographic Bill Hicks being used to advertise crap to people.

    2. Re:Please no. by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      It's even creepier when it's ghosts.

    3. Re:Please no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No more creepy than watching films or TV reruns with dead actors in them.

    4. Re:Please no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's much more creepy since instead of it being prerecorded actions they're being animated like puppets. I don't see why anyone would go to these if they're a fan, you'd be basically watching a modern cartoon based on their characters.

    5. Re:Please no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they're being animated like puppets

      No they aren't. From TFA:

      On Friday, Hologram USA, a technology company that specializes in these visual recreations of celebrities, announced that it would use the likenesses of Kaufman and Foxx and parts of their previously recorded routines to create hologram shows that will be presented across the country next year.

      And even if they did, that's no more creepy than finishing up a film where an actor has died, such as The Crow or Furious 7. Just because someone has died does not make it creepy. Even the young CGI Jeff Bridges in TRON: Legacy was more creepy than any of that.

  2. Besides the technology being imperfect by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The other reason people might not like this:
    a) The Uncanny Valley
    b) It's basically a replay of a video recording, not the real people, why pay out of the nose for a glorified YouTube vide.
    c) It is always done the same, they are robots. There is no human interaction or improv. What makes comedians good is not a repetitive set of jokes you can see on Netflix, it is the improv with the attendees, with the set, with the people behind scene. I once went to a comedian who did an entire 10min improv bit with the translator for the hearing impaired, another one did a bit on his hotel and the town's name.

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    1. Re:Besides the technology being imperfect by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      It is always done the same, they are robots. There is no human interaction or improv.

      Sure. And since these people are dead, a hologram is the best we're going to get from them. Nobody is trying to replace Louis CK.

      I would absolutely pay a few bucks to see a Redd Foxx routine.

    2. Re:Besides the technology being imperfect by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      Meh, Kaufman is easy .. just have it stand there awkwardly staring at the audience for 20 minutes.

      And then a bunch of hipsters will rave about how cutting edge it was. Everyone else will want their damned money back.

      Just like in real life.

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    3. Re:Besides the technology being imperfect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      absolutely pay a few bucks to see a Redd Foxx routine.

      https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Redd%20Foxx

      send me money

    4. Re:Besides the technology being imperfect by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      The other reason people might not like this:
      a) The Uncanny Valley
      b) It's basically a replay of a video recording, not the real people, why pay out of the nose for a glorified YouTube vide.
      c) It is always done the same, they are robots. There is no human interaction or improv. What makes comedians good is not a repetitive set of jokes you can see on Netflix, it is the improv with the attendees, with the set, with the people behind scene. I once went to a comedian who did an entire 10min improv bit with the translator for the hearing impaired, another one did a bit on his hotel and the town's name.

      d) With "Andy Kaufman and Redd Foxx To Tour As Holograms", this Rule 34 thing is really getting out of hand.

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    5. Re:Besides the technology being imperfect by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      I wonder if Redd Foxx is a furry.

  3. Republicans hate new things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is why they're doing this. Doing this.

    1. Re: Republicans hate new things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad they're stealing money from those Republicans with this scam.

    2. Re: Republicans hate new things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are the party of death.

    3. Re:Republicans hate new things by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1
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  4. Oh for fuck sake! by mark-t · · Score: 5, Informative

    I realize I'm probably preaching to the choir by commenting here, but the nytimes page linked to had no comment section, or else I would have said something there. But I really wish that people, and especially the media, would stop referring to this sort of thing as a hologram. It's called "pepper's ghost", it's a well-known illusion, and is not anything remotely like a hologram.

    1. Re:Oh for fuck sake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YES. YES YES YES YES.

      Exactly this. These are as much "holograms" as the shadow puppets I make with a flashlight for my kids.

      As a physicist I'm sick and tired of reading about all these "holograms". I blame CNN for starting the whole trend a few years back.

    2. Re:Oh for fuck sake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not Pepper's ghost! It's a Made-in-Japan screen called DILAD, which contains meta-materials and a 7mx2m sheet costs about 100k USD and starts to melt away after about 5hrs of use from heat of projection. The tech was invented to allow the entirely computer synthesized J-Pop teen idol Hatsune Miku sing on live stage. She is like Rei Toei from William Gibson's Idoru, but in a 10x more infantile version.

      So it is not a hologram (Dennis Gabor) thing, but also not a Pepper thing. It is halfway between, Miku desu!

  5. Can people PLEASE... by vashfish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...stop calling these things "holograms"?

    1. Re:Can people PLEASE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "hologramic" made me cringe!

  6. Pepper's Ghost by mbone · · Score: 3, Informative

    The chances of these "holograms" being actual holograms is down there with the House Benghazi Committee actually accomplishing anything.

    These will be Pepper's Ghost illusions, not holograms. Pepper's Ghost done well can be very effective, but the physics is rather different.

    1. Re:Pepper's Ghost by Parafilmus · · Score: 1

      These will be Pepper's Ghost illusions, not holograms..

      Actually, these aren't even Pepper's Ghost. Pepper's Ghost is a convincing 3D illusion.

      These things are just 2D videos projected onto a transparent screen.

    2. Re:Pepper's Ghost by Parafilmus · · Score: 2

      This trick is similar to pepper's ghost, in that a half-silvered mirror is used.

      But in this case, the mirror isn't reflecting a 3D object. It's just reflecting a 2D movie.

  7. Let me get this straight, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We now will have copyright holders as undead as their copyrights?

  8. great!!! by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    i love them! they are both great comedians!!!

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    1. Re:great!!! by dbIII · · Score: 1

      The movie about Kaufman mostly boiled down to pathetic ethnic jokes done by someone (who should not be named since he was probably not responsible for such a bomb) awkwardly pretending to be him so that put me off. Was there ever anything put together with clips of Kaufman himself?

  9. My favorite Redd Foxx joke by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    A bull and his son are standing on a hill, looking out over the herd. The son says "Hey pa! Lets run down there and fuck a cow!". The bull says "Son. Why don't we walk down there and fuck all the cows"

    1. Re:My favorite Redd Foxx joke by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Nah. The funniest Redd Foxx moment was when he fell over dead from a grabber IRL.

    2. Re:My favorite Redd Foxx joke by _merlin · · Score: 1

      I don't find it funny at all. I guess if that's his best, the rest of his material must be absolute shit.

    3. Re:My favorite Redd Foxx joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mooo?

  10. Frank did it first by mbone · · Score: 2

    The Sinatra estate had Frank Sinatra on stage starting in 2006, using archival footage rescued by Keith Robinson (Frank was a pack-rat, and saved all of his movie and TV rushes, so there is lots of material). They are bringing the Frank Sinatra stage show back to London, so you can see it too if you want. (This has a live orchestra to give it some interactivity.)

    1. Re:Frank did it first by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Hmm... No? Frank was a Rat Pack. *nods* ;)

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  11. Euphmism by jklovanc · · Score: 1

    these just happened to be amenable estates who see the vision.

    Is that e euphemism for "heirs that want to suck more money out of the estate"?

    1. Re:Euphmism by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      If it exposes a new generation of kids to Redd Foxx, I'm fine with that.

  12. Andy Kaufman wasmarried to Courtney Love? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is weird.

  13. There's a sucker born every minute. by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 1

    So they should be able to sell plenty of seats.

  14. Jelly by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    I hope one day to be famous enough that my kids and grandkids can whore out my image for decades or centuries after my death. Mmm an eternity of corporate whoring. What could be better?

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  15. you know what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nobody cares, seriously. they will be forever known as holograms.

    1. Re:you know what? by mbone · · Score: 1

      nobody cares, seriously. they will be forever known as holograms.

      You obviously don't hang out with physicists much.

  16. Andy Kaufman, eh by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    I never found Andy Kaufman to be very funny. I watched a fair bit of his stuff, I kept waiting for the funny part....I'm still waiting. Meh. Plus he seemed to be a genuine asshole in real life, not a big turn on for me.

    Red Foxx, also eh. He definitely had a few funny moments but overall I was never all that impressed by him.

    "Different strokes for different folks" I guess.

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  17. Might as well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... jam a stick up anyone's dead ass and parade them across stage without any input from the original. Jesus I hate people some times.

  18. Comedy doesn't work that way anymore by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    comedians don't really improve or try out material. I forget who but someone pointed out that there's too much risk of somebody with a camera recording them bombing one night and it killing their careers. It's why comedy is getting so stale. There's no vaudeville or stand up circuit for them to take risks with. There's nowhere for them to weed out the c and b material from the a stuff.

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    1. Re:Comedy doesn't work that way anymore by nine-times · · Score: 1

      comedians don't really improve or try out material.

      Besides hearing interviews with comedians recently where they talk about trying out new material, I don't see how it would be possible for comedians to not "improve or try out material". If they're coming out with new material, they have to try it out somewhere.

    2. Re:Comedy doesn't work that way anymore by LMariachi · · Score: 1

      That’s nonsense. Sure, they’re not working out new material while shooting an HBO special or on a big arena tour, but they absolutely do so at comedy clubs. Even hugely successful ones will make unannounced surprise appearances at the local Laugh Pocket to stay sharp. If you think there’s no standup circuit you just haven’t been looking.

  19. Dolomite by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    If they're gonna bring a comedian back as a hologram, it really ought to be Rudy Ray Moore.

    https://youtu.be/Voxp3ckwJZ0 [NSFW]

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    1. Re:Dolomite by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      How about Sam Kinison?

  20. Tupac by donkwich · · Score: 1

    What is it with disputed dead celebrities and holograms? First Tupac and now this. Maybe it's really him?

  21. slashdot is dying by clovis · · Score: 1

    They're not holograms, and this has been discussed before and here.
    Slashdot is supposed to be a tech site.
    For actual article to be so misinformed about such a basic technology as holography (that has been around for over a half century) is saddening.

  22. In a word, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ghoulish.

  23. Bill Hicks too please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They gotta throw some Hicks in the mix too.

  24. Holograms to tour ... by handy_vandal · · Score: 1

    Read: Holograms to tour as Andy Kaufman and Redd Foxx.

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  25. Next step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hear the next step after this will be to make the audience members all holograms, and then the theater.