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Judge Tosses Wikimedia's Anti-NSA Lawsuit Because Wikipedia Isn't Big Enough (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed by the Wikimedia Foundation, Amnesty International, and others against the NSA and other U.S. intelligence agencies for their surveillance of internet communications. The judge used some odd reasoning in his ruling to absolve the NSA of any constitutional violations. He said that since the plaintiffs couldn't prove that all upstream internet communications were monitored, they didn't have standing to challenge whatever communications were monitored. This is curious, given that tech companies are known to be under gag orders preventing them from discussing certain types of government data collection. The judge also made a strange argument about Wikipedia's size: "For one thing, plaintiffs insist that Wikipedia's over one trillion annual Internet communications is significant in volume. But plaintiffs provide no context for assessing the significance of this figure. One trillion is plainly a large number, but size is always relative. For example, one trillion dollars are of enormous value, whereas one trillion grains of sand are but a small patch of beach."

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  1. Re: The courts are rigged by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why didnt slashdot post the judges name?

    They should help publicize the name of this traitor.

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  2. Meh by RevDisk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My guess is for whatever reason, the judge did not want to rule against the NSA. So just used whatever barely coherent reason seemed remotely plausible.

    As a federal judge, you're not going to ever get in trouble for protecting the NSA regardless of the gaping holes in your ruling.

  3. $1,000,000,000,000 is of enormous value... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...whereas the amount it takes to buy a judge is much smaller.

  4. Re:Lawyers failed at presentation by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? Sounds like this judge had his/her verdict in mind before anyone stepped into the courtroom.

  5. Re:Lawyers failed at presentation by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nah, his verdict was probably given to him by the NSA shortly after realizing exactly how much internet monitoring they do.

  6. Re: The courts are rigged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    US District Judge Richard D Bennet

    It is the second link of the article.

    He is both a sellout and a traitor with this ruling.

    I really hope that later we hear some really dirty shit about him that costs them man everything released from the same channels he just sold us all out to defend.
    Also hope the absurdity of his judgment can be overturned.

  7. Re:Lawyers failed at presentation by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you mean? The FBI and DHS should have copies of most of them. And Congress is ever so diligent in making sure they are following the law, because it's their job and they take it very seriously.

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  8. False, they demanded Lavabits Crypto keys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    > "A NSL can't ask you to provide the content of someone's data"

    That's false, they've done two expansive things:

    In some cases. they've asked for a box on the network. In essence they've replaced "give us transactional records" for "trust us to only look at what we're legally allowed to look at for the subject we're legally allowed to search". I recall these boxes were run by the NSA who was keeping all the data, filtering it for the FBI, then handing the legal bit back to the FBI.

    And with Lavabit they demanded the crypto keys which would have also permitted content analysis on a "trust us" basis:
    http://www.wired.com/2013/10/lavabit_unsealed?ref=cm

    The law sets limits, and they conspire to hide the data collecting mechanism in the NSA (out of reach of the courts due to national security), while keeping the legally limited portion within the FBI.