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Comet Lovejoy Giving Away Alcohol (eurekalert.org)

Thorfinn.au writes: Comet Lovejoy lived up to its name by releasing large amounts of alcohol as well as a type of sugar into space, according to new observations by an international team. The discovery marks the first time ethyl alcohol, the same type in alcoholic beverages, has been observed in a comet. The finding adds to the evidence that comets could have been a source of the complex organic molecules necessary for the emergence of life.

'We found that comet Lovejoy was releasing as much alcohol as in at least 500 bottles of wine every second during its peak activity,' said Nicolas Biver of the Paris Observatory, France, lead author of a paper on the discovery published Oct. 23 in Science Advances. The team found 21 different organic molecules in gas from the comet, including ethyl alcohol and glycolaldehyde, a simple sugar.

Comets are frozen remnants from the formation of our solar system. Scientists are interested in them because they are relatively pristine and therefore hold clues to how the solar system was made. Most orbit in frigid zones far from the sun. However, occasionally, a gravitational disturbance sends a comet closer to the sun, where it heats up and releases gases, allowing scientists to determine its composition.

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  1. Organic compounds in space by CaptQuark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's interesting that they are finding organic compounds on comets. It's not much more complex to get to amino acids which are the building blocks of life. Perhaps the earth was seeded with enough organic material to jump start simple life forms. We might all be from alien origin.

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    1. Re:Organic compounds in space by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 4, Funny

      'We found that comet Lovejoy was releasing as much alcohol as in at least 500 bottles of wine every second during its peak activity,' said Nicolas Biver of the Paris Observatory, France,

      'On closer observation we found it to be ChÃteau Lafite Rothschild from somewhere between 1962 and 1978. The French government has authorised a French space mission to determine the vintage more closely, astronaut positions to be determined by national lottery', the scientist continued.

    2. Re:Organic compounds in space by donaldm · · Score: 2

      This is why the Galactic Police are so under manned, there are just too many of those annoying comets that go on alcoholic binges and forget Kepler's and Newton's laws. Wont someone think of those dwarf planets.

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    3. Re:Organic compounds in space by tomhath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Simple organic compounds are all over space. There's no reason to toss a few more out there; if a planet is in a life-friendly zone it probably already has the basic building block needed for life.

    4. Re:Organic compounds in space by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      I'm sure you use that line on all the alien babes.

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    5. Re:Organic compounds in space by ultranova · · Score: 2

      If we ever want a genetic legacy outside of this solar system short of inventing warp drive, which is highly unlikely, our best bet is to seed the universe with organics based on Terran DNA by firing huge numbers of small capsules at "Goldilocks" planets.

      Do we? Our biology is adapted to one particular environment, and is far from perfect even there. Our relation to it is also becoming increasingly abstract; for example, communicating through this website effectively reduces people to a bunch of ideas.

      So, given this, wouldn't it make more sense to focus efforts on completing the process - figuring out AI and mind uploading and downloading - and then simply send sapient probe ships to colonize nearby systems? That way, we aren't limited to Goldilocks planets, or planets in general - a future megacity might well be a space station housing nothing organic, just computer bank after computing bank, floating in interplanetary void, powered by sunlight and handling most of its traffick via antenna.

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    6. Re:Organic compounds in space by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      So in the end we become intragalactic porno producers...
      giving some poor unsuspecting planet a facial in the name of science.
      Never mind that things might already be developing there with no help needed...
      "No Honey, this is really good for your skin, I promise!"

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    7. Re:Organic compounds in space by plopez · · Score: 2

      How is it any less moral and ethical than colonization?

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  2. I'm curious by bytesex · · Score: 2

    These measurements are made using a spectrograph, right? Then what is the difference between the comet spitting out carbon, hydrogen and oxygen in more-or-less the same relative quantities as found in alcohol, and pure, molecular alcohol? I mean, have they verified that it is alcohol and not acetone? How does one verify the (complex) molecular composition of something when you can only see its light?

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    1. Re:I'm curious by NixieBunny · · Score: 4, Informative

      I work on telescopes of the sort that were used to make these observations. In fact, I built the spectrometer that the cited author Stephanie Milam used to get her degrees in astronomy at Arizona. The spectrometer (these days) is a big FFT machine capable of resolving perhaps 1 GHz of bandwidth into 16,384 or so channels. The frequency received by the telescope is typically many GHz. The huge IRAM telescope works at lower frequencies than our smaller scopes in Arizona, which operate above 100 GHz. The spectral lines are first replicated in a vacuum chamber in a lab, to make sure that the spectral signature is thoroughly documented.

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  3. A simple conversion that the editors neglected by stridebird · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We found that comet Lovejoy was releasing as much alcohol as in at least 500 bottles of wine every second during its peak activity

    An angry person writes:

    So how much ethyl alcohol? Using standard dimensions as assumptions:

    500 bottles at 750ml: 375 litres
    375 litres of wine at 13% = 50 litres [*]

    Just say that next time, k? At what point in the reporting chain did this idiocy get introduced? It's ejecting around 50 litres of ethyl alcohol. Simple. Now go away.

    [*} adjusted ABV from 12 to 13% to get 50 litres - a more likely estimated figure

  4. Orbiting Under Influence? by bkmoore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does that mean it's on an irregular, erratic orbit, and should be pulled over and given a breathalyzer test before it endangers any inhabited planets?

  5. Free Alcohol by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    The alcohol may be free, but the delivery charges are out of this world.

  6. Recruiting Astronauts by MindPrison · · Score: 2

    Never before has so many alcoholics wanted to be an astronaut as of this discovery.

    I could swear I saw Barney Gumble at Nasa's main entrance yesterday.

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  7. Re:Comet Wine by willworkforbeer · · Score: 2

    I would pay dearly for a bottle of comet wine that has aged 1 billion years.

    Yes, by definition it pairs well with Paleo anything.

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  8. Re:How Was It Made? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 2

    It's a small molecule, and therefore not hard to make via random processes (mix elements together and irradiate, for example).

    Ethanol is manufactured commercially, within Earth's biosphere by fermentation, but there are lots of other ways to form it. Partially oxidize hydrocarbons, combine ethylene (ethene) with water, reduce carbon dioxide or monoxide with hydrogen -- and those are just three off the top of my head that start with molecules common in space.

  9. Fund NASA with booze by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    Step 1: Send a probe to the comet.
    Step 2: Collect alcohol & bring it back to Earth.
    Step 3: Bottle the alcohol.
    Step 4: Sell it to rich folks who like getting drunk.
    Step 5: Profit (for NASA).

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  10. There's a more plausible explanation by SlovakWakko · · Score: 2

    To me, this is all the necessary evidence of a secret Russian space program. I'd just like to know why they select such clumsy astronauts...