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What Might a $50 Tablet Inspire? (arstechnica.com)

theodp writes: Surprisingly, says Ars Technica's review of Amazon's $50 Fire tablet, it doesn't suck. "There's simply very little reason to spend more when you can get 90 percent of the functionality for a fraction of the price," writes Mark Walton. "The only real niggle right now with the Fire Tablet is the display (and the camera, if you really want to take photos with your tablet). Once budget tabs start coming with 1080p displays as standard, the writing really will be on wall. For now, the Amazon Fire Tablet is the budget tablet to beat." How does cheap technology like this mesh with Bill Gates's dream of putting a computer in every home, and projects like OLPC? Beyond that, any thoughts on what a $50 tablet price point might inspire in education, gaming, and other areas?

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  1. Nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It still costs over $50/month for an internet connection in most households, and that's if you're lucky enough to have internet available at your house. People who are unable to purchase a $100-$200 tablet are going to be equally incapable of maintaining a mothly subscription.

    Maybe someday we'll see "mobile" OS's that allow for greater disconnection, but the current trend with storage and content tranfer is totally against this customer empowered idea.

    1. Re:Nothing by jabuzz · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the UK the new budget Fire tablet has gone out of stock twice now since it's launch, and is currently out of stock till the 6th November, and has been for a bit. I think that fairly clearly answers the question of whether it is selling.

      Here is the thing about the Fire tablet, at least based of my experience of the original Fire 7 HD tablet I have had for three years now.

      First it still gets updates, mine updated fairly recently (last month I think). Not bad for a three year old tablet. Also the build quality seems pretty good on the older models at least, the three year old plain Kindle Fire model is still in constant daily use by my 8 year niece.

      Second the combination of parental controls and Freetime for children is second to none, and is only getting better with the new models.

      Thirdly applicable to the new models is they come with a microSD slot, which is super useful. It means that for not much extra you can get a 64GB card and stick a significant amount of movies/TV shows on the tablet. The idea that you would in 2015 have a in car DVD player is laughable. Handbrake the DVD and stick it on the tablet, which also works on air-planes, airports, and anywhere there is no internet.

      Finally because they are so dam cheap a lot more people can afford to provide one to all their children. My brothers two girls are getting replacement ones for Christmas, £50 is great value for money and more importantly the microSD slot solves the capacity issue for video content.

  2. What Might a $50 Tablet Inspire? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A $49.95 tablet.

  3. Yes, it does suck by thsths · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, but 1024x600 is a terrible resolution. The small screen may be acceptable at this price, but the resolution is not. 1GB of RAM and the MTK CPU also make for a painful experience. So it does suck, even now, and certainly even more so next year.

    That being said you can get some decent tablets for $100. But somehow everybody is already on the internet, and these cheap tablets have not caused any of the predicted revolutions.

    1. Re:Yes, it does suck by TWX · · Score: 2

      I think we have differing views on what is acceptable. I'm typing this on a 15" 1440:900 display and it's just fine so long as the UI programmer for a given application didn't go off the deep end.

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    2. Re:Yes, it does suck by narcc · · Score: 2

      It's not complicated. A quick visit to Firefox.com is all it takes. It's less complicated that installing it on a PC.

      I understand the impulse, but I think you're underestimating the average user.

  4. What would we do without Bill Gates! by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How does cheap technology like this mesh with Bill Gates's dream of putting a computer in every home, and projects like OLPC?

    What would we do without visionaries like Bill Gates imagining cheaper computers? Without him, people would have gotten confused and made computers more and more expensive!

    And the difference between Kindle and other low cost devices: the Kindle isn't intended to be hackable. In fact, the $50 is really a subsidized price.

    1. Re:What would we do without Bill Gates! by nyet · · Score: 4, Informative

      What would we do without visionaries like Bill Gates imagining cheaper computers?

      He never imagined cheap technology for anybody. He wants everybody to pay up, always has.

      How could he get as rich as he did w/o government subsidy in the form of statutory monopoly?

  5. A Tablet is not a Computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How does cheap technology like this mesh with Bill Gates's dream of putting a computer in every home

    A Tablet is not a computer. It is some kind of restricted interface digital device, made for content consumption and based around pictogram interfaces. Computers, personal computers, were always envisaged as flexible, customisable, programmable general purpose devices, based around computer and natural language inputs. Up to the last few years, most were.

    Tablets ape the general purpose functions of PCs by having glut of low quality, shocking single purpose apps, but no way to tie these together. Even the simplest of functionality, saving, copying, pasting, editing, is in most cases absent, locked down, or only partially available on these digital devices. Tablets are not computers in the traditional sense, and are far closer to devices like phones, TVs and video game consoles. Digital, but in general not user programmable.

    So it is no surprise to see such a device reach full "functionality" at a $50 price point. That is the true worth of the usage they provide.

  6. Non-issue by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    Come on. You can get a free connection at almost any McDonald's, coffee shop, etc. At least here in the US you can. Buying the tablet doesn't have to mean you must run out and buy an Internet connection.

    Aside from that (which is probably a non-issue anyway, as Internet connections aren't exactly rare, tablet or no tablet), this isn't a bad tablet. We bought a couple for the grandspawn and one to use in the tub - far better to drop a $50 tablet in the drink than a more expensive device.

    One (sort of) funny thing is that the Kindle app, Amazon's very own reading application, crashes now and then on this tablet. Probably just a bug, but it doesn't do it on my android phone, so... probably a tablet issue. They oughta get on that. :)

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    1. Re:Non-issue by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Really, again, so what. There are a zillion things you can do on a tablet like this without an internet connection at all, so long as you can get to one *sometimes*.

      Download a few books, you don't need a connection to read them. Many games don't require one either. Likewise utility apps.

      Tablets are very flexible devices. A constant internet connection is not required to get a great deal out of using one.

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  7. Bill's dream? Please. What a joke. by nyet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bill Gate's dream is a world completely run by proprietary software, and a business model subsidized by government enforced statutory monopoly.

    Artificial barriers to entry is exactly preventing technology from being available to the underprivileged.

    The idea that Gates wants ANYBODY to have cheap computing technology is laughable. Water? Fine. Anything more advance than that? Tough luck. Pay your lords, serfs.

  8. Re:Dear Mr. Bezos: "It's the apps, stupid" by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    It's enough for Facebook, Angry Birds, reading books and streaming Amazon video. It's a cheap tablet to keep kids occupied.

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  9. It works by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I got one too. I installed Firefox on it with adblocker and ghostery and use it as my main couch reading gadget with readly, feedly, and all the flip-thingies.

    I got Amazon, Aliexpress and eBay and for buying stuff it's just great. Also to stream movies from my server to the bathtub.
    I always get the toddler cases, because they allow a much more relaxed grip but in this case :-) , the case cost half the price of the tablet, a bit steep IMO.

  10. Nothing by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it inspires nothing. It's a device wholly build around consumption of existing content and not creation.

    Now, a $50 general purpose computer? That'll inspire something.

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  11. Re:Amazon is too locked down by khellendros1984 · · Score: 2

    The hardware's open? Really? Point me to the schematics for the Raspberry Pi 2. Point me to the specifications for the vector-processing unit that helps prepare the machine for boot before handing execution off to the ARM core (and which also processes GPU commands). Point me to the code for the firmware blobs; after all, I'd like to write some display drivers so that I can use my own screens over the DSI port, rather than relying on the Raspberry Pi Foundation's choice of screen.

    Due to the use of Broadcom components, the hardware's about as open as it is in most tablets. We just happen to have proper binary blobs for use with a wider range of OSes.

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  12. Nothing without root. by sethstorm · · Score: 4, Informative

    If it's not locked to Amazon's walled garden, it's fine.

    If it's like about any other Amazon device, then it's an expensive paperweight.

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  13. That's easy: by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What Might a $50 Tablet Inspire?

    Surely it would inspire the same thing that a fucking color TV in every home has already inspired:

    complete and utter stupidity.

  14. Re:Wuite a "niggle" by tomhath · · Score: 4, Funny

    .Wuite=Quite, table=tablet, me=too much beer

  15. Slashdot editors are idiots by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A comupter in every home was not the dream of Bill Gates. It was the dream of guys like Woz, Ed Roberts, Les Solomon and the Homebrew Computer Club.

      Bioll Gates dream was to have a Microsoft OS running on every computer on every desktop.

  16. Re:Dear Mr. Bezos: "It's the apps, stupid" by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 2

    Yes. That's almost as bad as those 75Mhz, 100M or RAM computers that people used to use and not get any work done.

  17. Re:What has Kindle gotta do with the African Ameri by KGIII · · Score: 2

    I have scads of money. I drive a BMW. One of my favorite vehicles is a 1982 Volvo 245. I don't dress in tailored suits. I eat food that's grown or hunted or fished by myself - often/most of the time. I wear clothing from L.L. Bean. I have long, kind of, scraggly hair and a big ol' bushy and kinda gray beard. You'd not even know that I've accumulated some wealth unless I told you. I listen to rock and roll, I smoke cigars, and do a few drugs. Do you think that people just magically change because they have more in their bank account?

    Silly kids.

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  18. Re: What has Kindle gotta do with the African Amer by Wycliffe · · Score: 2

    And? None of those change the fact that he bought a cheap car just as they don't change the fact that other people with money will still buy cheap tablets.

    I would say that people with money are almost more likely to buy a cheap tablet. Someone cash strapped might buy a $200 tablet as their primary computer device and share it among the family where a family with a little more money will still buy the $200 tablet but will also buy each kid their own personal $50 tablet.