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Man Licenses His Video Footage To Sony, Sony Issues Copyright Claim Against Him (petapixel.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Mitch Martinez creates high-resolution stock video footage, and then licenses it out to people who need footage to go along with their creative projects. He has written an article at PetaPixel explaining his bizarre interaction with Sony Music Entertainment, and the hassle they put him through to fix it. Martinez licensed one of his videos to Epic Records, and they used it as background for a music video on YouTube. Less than two months later, his original video on YouTube was hit with a copyright claim from Sony. After figuring out that Epic Records was a subsidiary to Sony, he disputed the copyright claim — which is usually the end of it. But after reviewing the videos, Sony rejected it, saying their claim was still valid. Martinez then tried to contact the person at Epic Records to whom he issued the license. None of his emails got a response. Then he had to get in touch with Epic's legal department. After a lengthy series of emails, voicemails, and phone calls, he finally got somebody to admit it was his video. It still took a few more calls to work out the details, but the company finally released the copyright claim. Martinez concludes by offering some tips on how to resolve such claims.

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  1. You think it's bad now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The TPP isn't even approved by Congress yet. Crap like this happening will be a cakewalk in comparison to what things will be like if and when Congress approves it. Call and/or write your congressperson now, tell them to vote against it!

    1. Re:You think it's bad now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ahem. TPP is already "too big to fail." Your congress person knows that, and they'll pay you lip service and then ignore you when the vote comes. It will pass, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

      What's really happening in this "vote"? Hint: It's a political power-renegotiation between legislative and executive branches that goes a little something like this:

      Congress: "Give in to our demands, or we'll torpedo your legacy."
      POTUS: "You wouldn't really do that. Half of you would lose your seats next term."
      Congress: "Well you've seen the voting trend over the past 20 years. We're out in 2-3 cycles anyway, so we've got nothing to lose, and you know it. What'll you give us not to pull the trigger?"
      POTUS: "Shit, okay, what do you want?"

    2. Re:You think it's bad now? by JackieBrown · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You really think that Obama is against this? Exactly which party do you think gets the most money from the entertainment industry?

  2. tips on how to resolve such claims by GrahamCox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't do business with Sony or any of its subsidiary companies?

    1. Re:tips on how to resolve such claims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Cool bro, I'll join you, but you're gonna have to provide me with a list of every non Sony branded subsidiary they control and a list of all the products from which they receive income via licenses. It's ok I already live in my mom's basement so I can cope, and getting her to switch her TV to a toshiba or panasonic should be a lot easier than trying to convince her to use Linux. Thanks man. You really opened up my eyes there.

    2. Re:tips on how to resolve such claims by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's right up there with pick a different job. I you're in the business of licensing media to others then you will end up in this stupid situation. The only safe move is no to play, but then that move also means you don't get to eat.

  3. Re:So what the fuck is the story here? by someone1234 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, next time the automated system will imprison him. Why is he complaining now?

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  4. Re:add a clause. by dwywit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd have thought that would have already been clear in the licencing contract.

    "The material is licenced to the purchaser for the purposes stated in appendix A. Ownership and copyright of the material remains at all times with the seller".

    So a copyright claim by Epic/Sony would be breach of contract, and hopefully there would be a clause in the contract that the licence is immediately cancelled should there be such a breach of contract.

    At least, that's how I would licence any material of mine.

    Sony has obviously sent a copy of the video to their legal/enforcement division (did they have a licence to copy the material for that purpose?), who proceeded to scour youtube/vimeo/liveleak for it, without bothering to check who *actually* held the copyright in the original footage.

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  5. And he might kill his business by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with small guy, is that if he does that, he will black listed by the sony alike. If he does not do his business with sony alike corp, then go for it. But if he does, it would be the quickest way to dry up. That is the power of corp. And mostly why I watch with dismay American thinking private business are better and more efficient. At least a government you can vote out. A corp ? They will crush you most of the time, baring very few rare exception.

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    1. Re:And he might kill his business by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Might not be a problem. Cite in court the fines that Sony has asked for non-commercial copyright infringement. Say that you're willing to be generous and only ask for the same for their commercial infringement. You should get a few million...

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  6. Re:So what the fuck is the story here? by shione · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The point is large corporations have it so easy to lay copyright claims and when you go to dispute it you have to jump through hoops. Not only was the onus on his to prove to YT that it was his own work even though somebody else is making the claim but he had to contact multiple people at Sony, multiple times just to wake them up. And here is a guy who licensed his work to a large multinational corporation for FREE and he gets screwed over by them. If he didn't waste his time fighting it then he would have been the one losing the rights to his own work. So how is that fair?

  7. Can copyright work in the digital age? by Majudhu · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Doctorow and Lessig is right about copyright vs the digital age. I can't understand copyright working in the digital age. If the man and computer power used to enforce copyright was put to better use. So much time, money and energy to make life better, insted used to frustrate us trying to enjoy a video clip, audio clip or even a still image. I'm sure YouTube is more busy trying to find violations than trying to create the recommended video lists

  8. Re:add a clause. by rioki · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real issue here is not that some automated system flagged the video, but that after the counter claim some human still insisted that Sony still owned the entire copyright. Granted, the person who handles these counter claims probably sees hundreds a day and basically is trained to say "nah, we still own the copyright and no it's not fair use". Which probably is correct most of the time. The shame lies with Sony that fails to do is due diligence when reviewing counter claims made by the automated systems.

  9. Re:So what the fuck is the story here? by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, next time the automated system will imprison him. Why is he complaining now?

    Automated imprisonment?!? Don't be so 1984, we have long since moved on to drone strikes.

  10. Re:add a clause. by wvmarle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It can easily go a step further.

    The license is not necessarily exclusive to Epic Records, which means he can license it to other people as well.

    So now it may happen that Bob has licensed the same video, and is using it legally, and then Epic Records via Sony tries to sue him over copyright infringement. That's bad not only for Bob, but also for Mitch, as he may get a bad name and can't sell his material any more. Bob will also have no idea what's happening to him, as he knows he properly licensed the video from Mitch, who is not related to Sony, yet it's Sony that comes with the infringement claims.

    A big, big mess.

  11. Re:add a clause. by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's shameful but Sony has nothing to lose by saying they own everything 100% of the time. This phase of the YouTube copyright claim process doesn't even involve the horrible DMCA. This prelude is all copyright enforcement theater. The bitch of it is going to be clearing YouTube's copyright strike against the owner of the footage. If this happens a couple more times, his channel could be shutdown permanently, even if the strikes are bogus.

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