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Walmart Applies To Test Drone Use For Delivery and Inventory Checking (faa.gov)

An anonymous reader writes: Retailing giant Walmart has submitted an application to the Federal Aviation Administration requesting permission to run drone trials. The tests are to include not only home delivery — with the permission of residents within the 'flight path' — but also inventory-checking procedures at Walmart parking lots. It only costs $5 to make an application of this nature to the FAA, and until some hint of concrete legislation comes to light from the newly-formed UAS task force on November 20th, that's probably about as much as any company would want to spend on speculative drone-delivery research.

49 comments

  1. I knew it... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Walmart is Skynet.

    1. Re:I knew it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Walmart is Skynet.

      You pitiful humans fail to realize that we OWN you!

      Sincerely,

      The Machines, Rise Of.

  2. Great by anmre · · Score: 0

    So now I get to worry about one of these things smacking me in the face while I'm cutting my grass? No thanks. Space is already at a premium in urban areas. I don't think Walmart should get to take up even more of it.

    1. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Do you also worry about delivery trucks running you over while you're cutting your grass?

    2. Re:Great by EzInKy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thankfully, delivery trucks have well defined regulated lanes of travel to keep them off private property.

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    3. Re:Great by EzInKy · · Score: 1

      Never say never. Again thankfully, both criminal and civil penalties apply when they do stray. Additionally, few if any ground delivery vehicle owners argue for the right to violate others privacy and space. Drone proponents could learn a lesson from them.

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    4. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would rather be hit by twenty drones than one truck. Moron.

    5. Re: Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until they go autonomous as well...

    6. Re:Great by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Ground-based delivery vehicles are also rarely used for airborne missile strikes within another country's sovereign territory - another feather in their cap - go delivery trucks!

    7. Re: Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nor are drones regularly used for terrestrial borne missile strikes.

    8. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A truck will not fall on to my rooftop, you dumb little shit.

    9. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your rooftop can handle a drone better than you can handle a truck. You would have realized that if your parents hadn't been siblings.

    10. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My rooftop can handle not having anything crash into even better. You'd realise that if your mother hadn't been a crack whore.

    11. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She wasn't, and I do.

      But since your filthy skank of a mother IS a crack whore whose only johns are her five syphilitic brothers, you're too retarded to have realized that you're missing the point. The drones wouldn't be replacing "nothing", they'd be replacing trucks. Understand? No, you don't, so I'll spell it out:

      A truck has a small chance of causing an accident that is likely to cause a lot of bodily and property damage. That is the risk you have right now.

      A drone has a small chance of causing an accident that is likely to cause much less damage. That is the risk you'd have if trucks were replaced by drones.

      You're fearfully clutching your pearls over this smaller risk while blithely ignoring the larger one. You're doing this because you're a fucking idiot. No other reason is possible. Incidentally, that's also the same reason why you're an unemployable virgin with no friends.

  3. Watch out for falling prices! by ztexas · · Score: 4, Funny

    And/or medium-sized drones carrying Velveeta and beer!

    1. Re:Watch out for falling prices! by Burz · · Score: 1

      Max Headroom was not an exaggeration after all (the episode with junk falling from the sky).

  4. Do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop talking...

    Same goes for Amazon...

    1. Re:Do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck that. I don't want some malfunctioning drone crashing into my house. Keep that shit away from me.

    2. Re: Do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like a plane that you pay to fly in? That got there for the same reason?

      Dichotomies make for a very intelligent culture.

      You can be serious, what if one of those undeveloped cars drives through your fence. I suppose we never should have made them?

    3. Re: Do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering my home is a good way from the road, there is little to no chance of a car running into it.

      And you're seriously trying to compare a jumbo jet to a dinky little drone? What are you, stupid?

    4. Re: Do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you're seriously trying to compare a jumbo jet to a dinky little drone?

      Your empty appeal to incredulity shows that you know you've lost the argument.

    5. Re: Do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the guy with no counter argument who thinks that a drone is the same thing as a 747.

    6. Re: Do something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pointing out the vapidity of your statement IS the counter argument. And by resorting to a strawman, you admit that it has devastated you.

      And now, because you are too stupid to have learned anything, you're going to do it again.

  5. Hint of concrete legislation from the task force? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

    No. Legislation comes from the legislature. The DoT's new regulatory efforts are not only NOT legislative (they are regulatory, from the administration running the executive branch), but they are talking about doing things that fly in the face of a law that WAS passed by the legislature. The DoT is talking about regulating classes of RC toys that congress explicitly ruled as off-limits from exactly that sort of action by the administration.

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  6. Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't a better headline be:
    "Walmart Applies [for] Test Drone Use [in] Delivery and Inventory Checking"?

    1. Re:Headline by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      No. They're applying for permission to run a test, in public, of using drones for delivery and inventory checking, not for permanent permission to use them that way. The headline is quite specific about that as written.

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  7. Concrete application comes to light by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    until some hint of the FAA on November 20th. you can play, too.

    1. Re:Concrete application comes to light by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      Applying concrete is kind of an edge case for drones.

      Now, applying crowd-controlling teargas, there's your growth market.

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  8. Lasers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "... inventory-checking procedures at Walmart parking lots ..." (drone follows you in parking lot and says [in robot voice]) Did you just buy that, please show your receipt, return to store now, last warning, 3, 2, 1 [pew! pew!]

  9. Re:Hint of concrete legislation from the task forc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When?
    The FAA has had rules for R/C Aircraft for decades.
    You used to need and FCC License too.
    DoT?
    What Law did congress Pass and a President sign that covers this>

  10. Who's dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they sucking to not just test it in a field?

    Pathetic.

    1. Re:Who's dick by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Probably the same dick your mother was sucking when she conceived you. We're still not sure how the semen ended up in her vagina.

  11. Re:Hint of concrete legislation from the task forc by fred911 · · Score: 1

    They don't have rules, the have suggestions for safe operation that they encourage people to follow.

    https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_...

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  12. Re:Hint of concrete legislation from the task forc by ScentCone · · Score: 1

    The FAA has had rules for R/C Aircraft for decades.

    This is factually incorrect. The FAA has had rules against interfering with aviation ... but that applies to everything and everyone (hot air balloons, ultralights, kites, RC models ... everything).

    You used to need and FCC License too.

    Increasingly academic, as many systems use freely available FX and levels of power (roughly like using WiFi). Long-range FPV operators STILL need FCC licensing, but of course most just blow that off.

    DoT?

    Department of Transportation

    What Law did congress Pass and a President sign that covers this

    The FAA Modernization And Reform Act of 2012.

    Among other things, note section 336, which explicitly denies the FAA authority to pass any new regs regarding recreational use of RC (model aviation). More to the point, the law required the FAA to incorporate UAS technology into the national air space by August of this year. The administration has blown that deadline, and dragged their feet the entire time. They don't like the law that congress wrote, so they're getting around it by turning to the DoT, instead of the narrowly defined FAA has referenced in 336, in order to regulate hobbyists despite the law that says they can't.

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  13. Nothing to see here, move along by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    Nope, no way automation is going to eliminate any jobs, and even if it were (which it's not) we can just lower pay to compensate and prices will fall until the lower pay has equal buying power, right?

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    1. Re:Nothing to see here, move along by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      Nope, no way automation is going to eliminate any jobs, and even if it were (which it's not) we can just lower pay to compensate and prices will fall until the lower pay has equal buying power, right?

      You're right. It's not like we've been automating jobs away for a century or more, yet now have far more people employed than were back then.

  14. Wong Direction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drones are best to kill humans.

    Therefore, Walmat for greatest profit need to re-direct drones to kill recipients therefore gaining money from death (of recipients) and failure to deliver (recipients dead)!

    Ha ha

    1. Re:Wong Direction by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Amazon Drone-Delivery Customer Service Clerk: Woa, I see that Uncle Sam has ordered and paid for another air-strike for an unnamed nephew in Southern Oilistan!

      Colleague: *Envy* Dude; I wish I had an uncle that generous.

  15. parking lot "inventory".... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    translation....

    rfid reader, wifi/cellular radio, license plate reader, and camera equipped surveillance drones for customer metrics, survey data, and loss prevention and evidence gathering (the 'inventory' part)..

  16. Where's the proof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So reuters reports an application.
    I see no such link on the faa docket, no link to the application.

    I call BS, this story is a fabbed one until I see a faa application vs what "reuters says" and using phantoms as delivery testbed is somewhat naive. They are camera drones, not [robust] delivery drones.

  17. Re:Hint of concrete legislation from the task forc by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    DoT?

    Department of Transportation

    In this case, since it involves RC stuff, I think DoT == Department of Toys . . .

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  18. Technology be damned! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really don't want every business setting up their own fleet of drones to fly over my house. Having heard the motors on some of those drones, it's gonna get pretty noisy. So now we all get to live near airports. The FAA should just limit these licenses to hobbiests until the tech is quieter, plus there's no need for drones. FedEx/UPS/USPS have trucks that are nearly as intrusive as these things will be plus they do a pretty good job of getting things to their destination.

    1. Re:Technology be damned! by DriveDog · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, if you live in Kentucky you now get to blast away at them.

  19. Inventory Checking? by DriveDog · · Score: 1

    Meaning watching customers headed for their cars with presumably stolen merchandise? Counting the shopping carts? Spying on RVs they allow to park there for the night?

    1. Re:Inventory Checking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meaning counting trucks and trailers at Walmart distribution centers.

  20. In related news ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    New section to be added to the People of Walmart web page : aerial reconnaissance photos.

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