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Busybox Deletes Systemd Support

Posted by timothy on from the changed-our-minds dept.

ewhac writes: On 22 October, in a very terse commit message, Busybox removed its support for the controversial 'systemd' system management framework. The commit was made by Denys Vlasenko, and passed unremarked on the Busybox mailing lists. Judging from the diffs, system log integration is the most obvious consequence of the change.

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  1. The Commit Message by Kunedog · · Score: 5, Informative
    Found it quoted elsewhere:

    remove systemd support

    systemd people are not willing to play nice with the rest of the world. Therefore there is no reason for the rest of the world to cooperate with them.

    1. Re:The Commit Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not aware of the politics in this, are they saying the systemd people are rude, or that they just refuse to make their code compatible?

      Both.

      People have found bugs that make systemd incompatible with existing programs, and rather than fix the bugs in systemd, the systemd people responded that the people who found the bugs should work around systemd and systemd didn't need to be compatible with existing code.

      Basically systemd completely wrecks the UNIX way and makes the distros that use it absolutely unmaintainable if you're a sysadmin.

    2. Re: The Commit Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      There was a problem involving systemd, networking, and aiccu.

      The aiccu maintainer demonstrated how systemd wasn't properly making sure that networking was up before attempting to start aiccu, something pretty much any other init system managed to do.

      The systemd folk, by way of Red Hat basically told those using aiccu the same thing others were told: 'too bad, systemd isn't betting "fixed" because we don't see this as our problem.'

      My opinion? Systemd is useless and makes more problems than it's worth. It has its mitts in far more than any init system should. It is a blight on system administration.