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US Law Can't Keep Up With Technology -- and Why That's a Good Thing (newsweek.com)

HughPickens.com writes: In the 1910s, the number of cars in the US exploded from 200,000 to 2.5 million. The newfangled machines scared horses and ran over pedestrians, but by the time government could pass the very first traffic law, it was too late to stop them. Now Kevin Matley writes in Newsweek that thanks to political gridlock in the US, lawmakers respond to innovations with all the speed of continental drift. New technologies spread almost instantly and take hold with almost no legal oversight. According to Matley, this is terrific for tech startups, especially those aimed at demolishing creaky old norms—like taxis, or flight paths over crowded airspace, or money. "Drone aircraft are suddenly filling the sky, and a whole multibillion-dollar industry of drone making and drone services has taken hold," says Matley. "If the FAA had been either farsighted or fast moving, at the first sign of drones it might've outlawed them or confined them to someplace like Oklahoma where they can't get in the way of anything too important. But now the FAA is forced to accommodate drones, not the other way around." Bitcoin is another example of a technology that's too late to stop. "But have you heard the word bitcoin uttered once in any of the presidential debates? Government doesn't even understand bitcoin, and that's been really good for it." Uber and Airbnb show how to execute this outrun-the-government strategy. By the time cities understood what those companies were doing, it was too late to block or seriously limit them.

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  1. Why should they? by Monoman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why should laws keep up with technology? Laws should be written in such a way that the technology involved doesn't matter. Typically laws should be about an outcome more than a method. There are already so many laws on the books that the first thing to look at is if an existing law applies. If not, is there a law that should be amended to cover the new technology?

    Example: Highway speed limits are for all motor vehicles and not just a specific type of vehicle. It does not matter how many wheels (car, motorcycle, tractor trailer, etc) the car has, what type of the engine (gas, diesel, electric) is under the hood, what kind of transmission (auto, manual), or if if has some fancy new electronic accessory ... the speed limit is the speed limit.

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    1. Re:Why should they? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Laws should be written in such a way that the technology involved doesn't matter

      Laws often apply to situations that didn't exist before some technology was invented. There was no little need to regulate traffic when a horse drawn cart on a rickety road was the fastest anyone went. There was no need to regulate wiretapping before the telephone was invented. There was no need to regulate the aggregation of large amount of personal data before large datacentres became cost effective to build, and so on. There may be some debate over whether hand-gun ownership should be regulated, but the invention of portable rocket launchers that could level buildings meant that at least some form of regulation was needed for private militias.

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    2. Re:Why should they? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, you raise a good point. Recently the California Coastal Commission enacted a regulation banning the breeding of orcas at Sea World. The mission of the California Coastal Commission is "To protect, conserve, restore, and enhance the environment of the California coastline". What does Sea World breeding orcas have to do with that mission?

      The Commission's justification for this regulation was that no one else was regulating Sea World in this area, so they were free to do so. Notice, they did not point to a law which gave them the authority to regulate Sea World. They just assumed that such regulation was appropriate and, since no other government agency was doing so, enacted a regulation.

      This is NOT how our government is supposed to work.

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    3. Re: Why should they? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obviously you're a Green. Their default response to anything new is to react in the same reflexive the way mainline churches do to changes in social mores.

      Technology IS people, dumbass. We do science because we are curious about that is going on in the natural world, and then whenever the science uncovers something we can apply to making our lives easier, someone will try it.

      In your full-employment economy, there are a certain number of people whose job it is to break up one-ton rocks into pieces small enough to haul away from a construction site so a house can be built. It takes you a week to bust and haul each rock. When some engineer invents a machine to do this job, your role in life is not to crawl off in a corner and die. It's to learn how to operate the machine. When the machine for hauling away one-ton rocks gets scaled up to haul away ten- and one-hundred ton rocks, you can be part of the team that builds high-rises, not just houses. Then you're working on the Panama Canal.

    4. Re:Why should they? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Example: Highway speed limits are for all motor vehicles and not just a specific type of vehicle. It does not matter how many wheels (car, motorcycle, tractor trailer, etc) the car has, what type of the engine (gas, diesel, electric) is under the hood, what kind of transmission (auto, manual), or if if has some fancy new electronic accessory ... the speed limit is the speed limit.

      Sigh. Why do people make car analogies when they've never driven out of their neighborhood? In many states, there is a separate speed limit for vehicles which are towing. In California, where we have the most people, the most vehicles, the most miles of road, and the most vehicle-miles traveled, the speed limit while towing is 55, no matter what you are driving or what you are towing. But the same vehicle, when not towing, travels at whatever the posted speed limit might be. (Sometimes that's 55.)

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    5. Re:Why should they? by dywolf · · Score: 2

      your speed limit example is actually a perfect example of how laws DO in fact need to keep pace and don't.
        especially as we move towards autonomous vehicles, but in fact applicable even with today's vehicles.

      a high performance sports car can easily handle higher speeds and sharper turns than a semi hauling two trailers.
      yet both are given the same 70mph limit, even though its rather too much for the double semi, and rather below the sports cars safe capability.

      so why shouldn't they have different legal limits on what's safely acceptable?
      in fact many areas DO impose special limits on larger vehicles such as semis and trailers.

      and isn't one of the goals of autonomous vehicles the ability for each vehicle to adapt to every other, cooperatively creating a best case scenario for each vehicle? in their autonomous decision making such a cooperative network should easily be able to keep the two trailer semi moving steadily forward safely, while also allowing other traffic, including our high performance sports car, to route around it at their own individual best/safe speeds.

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      privacy is another area where laws haven't kept pace.
      before the internet and the ability mass data mine encyclopedias on every individual from seemingly innocuous information, there wasn't much thought given to that information. there was safety because there was no ability to collate such a vast amount of data. but in the last 15 years that has changed dramatically. and now it matters. and yet the laws are still stuck in the time before it did.

      your key thesis is invalid. beyond the simple imperatives of thou shall not murder/steal, it is impossible to write laws that are technologically timeless, and this has been shown time and again, whether it's determining how high into the air your property rights extend after the first airplanes begin flying x-country, data mining and privacy rights, or determining how to make cars and horses get along during the period when they shared the same streets.

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    6. Re:Why should they? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      The problem with Uber and AirBnB isn't technology. It's that their business model doesn't fit into cities where the normal rules of supply and demand have broken down. You might argue that rent-regulated markets like New York and San Francisco have brought their housing crises upon themselves - but it's a pretty empty argument. Both are seriously land-limited and seriously in demand. Some kind of regulation is required. Taxis are a little easier. In congested central cities, it's imperative to balance the number and availability of taxis with the congestion they produce.

      Uber and AirBnb get around regulations by operating on a bait-and-switch basis. Full-time Uber drivers are not 'ride-sharing', and apartments operated as hotel rooms are not 'short-term roommate/sublet' situations. The fact that there's enough demand for such things in certain markets just points to the need for regulation in those markets. Perhaps those regulations need changing - and perhaps Uber and AirBnb can be part of a solution (e.g. requiring Uber rides to originate and/or end en outer boroughs). But opting to blow up regulations that are in place for a reason is a neat little bit of anarchic ideology that happens to suit these businesses' needs well - if not the needs of the residents of New York and San Francisco.

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  2. Invisible Hands and things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Once again this drivel from a worshipper of The Church of Invisible Hands and Shrugging Atlases.

    I do agree that laws are not always for the best. But there ends our agreement. The worst laws are those bought by "whole multibillion-dollar industr[ies]". The shrugging (should I say bribing?) Atlases.

  3. Re:Rest of the world chimes in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you think the NSA doesn't have a virgin leather-bound, gold-leafed folio with hexadecimal printout of every single possible bitcoin inside, I have an ethernet bridge to sell you... On the other hand, we can only theorize why they don't just dump all possible bitcoins on the net, thereby instantly annulling its value.

    Someone doesn't understand how bitcoin works.

  4. Re:Bitcoin isn't the best example. by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Interesting

    None of the examples are particularly good:

    Bitcoin - lots of investigation from the SEC et al, rules laid out and restrictions put in place.

    Uber - don't we pretty much have at least one story a week about Uber being banned in particular locations after failing to follow requirements for taxi services already in place?

    AirBnB - massive legal issues, banned in NYC for a time, required to implement hotel taxes.

    I don't think any of the examples are actually examples of things outrunning the government successfully.

  5. Since when does America attack her tinkerers? by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So what is the assertion here- the government will stop technology as soon as it gets a whiff of what's going on? Are you sure you're not mixing up the government with your parents?

    The government has no interest in stopping the forward movement of technology, nor do they have a historical record of trying to do so. The idea that they *might have* stopped the automobile or drones or bitcoin is just that, an idea you have for some reason. It's a historical counterfactual injected to frame the government as technologically regressive.

    I see no evidence that the government is ideologically technologically regressive. If your point is that politicians think the internet is a like a bunch of old fashonied vacuum tubes through which messages get sent (which actually is not a terrible analogy) then consider that about as many older movie stars and writers and artists don't use or *get* modern technology as politicians, who skew heavily upwards in age.

    Just recalling instances from one day's reading and listening Richard Gere isn't on Twitter and Richard Ford writes his novels longhand without a computer. So it goes.

    OTOH we fund via DARPA and other programs vast amounts of the most cutting edge science, science which if it were declassified would seem like magic to us. We're talking advances in things like human cloning and quantum computers which are mind blowing even to readers of /.

    So where is this "good thing they didn't know about THIS" attitude coming from? America celebrates it's inventors, tinkerers, mavericks, oddballs. All these things you cite are products of tinkering. They're not basic science but the application of well known technologies to solve problems in novel ways.

    Say what you want about America, pre-emptive legislation is not in American's DNA. If something becomes big enough to start impacting innocent bystanders, broadly considered, then Congress steps in, as is its right and duty.

  6. Re:Rest of the world chimes in. by Sique · · Score: 3, Informative
    Many people who hail the gold standard ignore a simple fact: A gold standard for coins means constant deflation, which is bad in most economic situation, because it gives incentives for hoarding money instead of spending it. Or for the technically inclined: Gold coins don't scale. Each year, the world economy grows about 4%, but the amount of gold available doesn't. Thus with time, with the gold standard a fixed amount of gold represents more and more actual value. A precious metal standard was kinda okeish, as long as you could set aside some productivity gains to mine more precious metals to represent the gained productivity in additional coins. It worked as long as countries in dire need of more precious metals simply invaded other countries and either stole theirs or started to mine non-depleted resources.

    But somehow, conquering other nations and plundering their wealth just for your own coin mints has been frowned upon recently, and thus the gold standard had to be abandoned, as the gold available couldn't scale anymore with the gold needed for minting.

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  7. Dumb argument by tomhath · · Score: 2

    Does Mr. Matley expect the government to anticipate the next fad and outlaw it just because? Maybe the government should have outlawed Segways, they were supposed to be game changers.

  8. You mean regulations can't keep up by MikeRT · · Score: 2

    The Code of Hammurabi or the Law of Moses (in particular) could probably handle most situations arising from "being a dick and hurting someone with your toys." We settled the basic problem of how to handle actual cases of hurting people with your toys about 4k-5k years ago, we just quibble on what the punishments should be. In fact, ironically, if we stole the standards of evidence used in the Law of Moses for our own system, it would put the innocence project out of business (for good reasons) because prosecutors and cops would be scared shitless to abuse the defendant, but I digress...

    Most of what TFS mentions are just regulatory decisions. These are often just "nice to haves" that have little bearing on whether you can accurately say that the courts are unable to address real harms done to real people and property. The FAA might not be able to regulate the nuances of drones now, but I'd bet good money that at any point since they became commercially available, that had you caused someone's death with one (even by accident) a prosecutor could have nailed you to the wall in any court in the union.

  9. The devil is in the details by sjbe · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why should laws keep up with technology? Laws should be written in such a way that the technology involved doesn't matter.

    Kind of adorable that you think that is possible. Oh you can put a general framework out there but there ALWAYS are going to be specific details that need legislation. Congress in the 1700s could not possible have written a law that deals adequately with the nuances of radio communications 200 years later. Nobody is so smart as to be able to write laws in such a way that technology doesn't matter. Furthermore any law that is so broad as to cover everything will have innumerable corner case, loopholes and problems. You need a good framework but sooner or later you are going to have to get into the ugly specifics.

  10. The right to bear arms by Crowd+Computing · · Score: 2

    That's obviously one law that's been obsoleted since the Founding Fathers couldn't have anticipated the arrival of the submachine gun and the shoulder-fired rocket.

  11. How Government Regulation Works by retroworks · · Score: 3, Informative

    1. Tinkerer invents something.

    2. Regulator goes to office, gets cup of coffee, reads the paper, doesn't care.

    3. "Wild West" economy as millions buy and use invention.

    4. Regulator goes to lunch.

    5. Nine Journalists report on invention as wonderful, spectacular, world-changing.

    6. Regulator does some shopping on way back from lunch.

    7. Tenth journalist, beaten to punch, finds "man bites dog" story, unintended consequence of invention

    8. Regulator packs briefcase for ride home.

    9. Legislators get panicked calls from people either hurt by invention, or afraid they'll be hurt by invention.

    10. Regulator has dinner, goes to bed.

    Guess what regulator reads in the paper tomorrow morning? Guess what's in the regulator's email tomorrow morning?

    As a former regulator, there's nothing sinister about either the cowboy market or the regulations, and I get weary of the memes of anti-cowboy and anti-sheriff. What is broken is risk-benefit analysis, and it's probably broken at the journalism juncture. "if it bleeds, it leads" gives journalists money if they shock us, and there's nothing more shocking than a new risk we have to worry about.

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  12. Confounded In Complexity by JimSadler · · Score: 2

    It is odd that the New testament speaks of the end times when we will be confounded by our complexity. Beyond that we have a situation where numerous laws can be applied to many situations and the effect is that a judge can pretty much do anything he likes which in a way is the same as having no laws at all. Then we have an issue with law makers creating laws which have severely negative effects that were unexpected. A huge example is in the creation of smart guns. The intention was to keep people in our nation a bit safer. But the law that passed actually doomed the sale of smart guns completely. The problem is linked to a law passed in New Jersey that mandated that once available on the market anywhere in the US the residents of NJ would be denied the right to purchase any regular gun and buy only a smart gun. So nobody in the firearms industry and almost zero gun owners will tolerate a smart gun being made or sold. If NJ had simply passed a law saying that a gun store must offer at least one smart gun for sale then we would have smart guns all over the nation while most gun hobbyists would still buy non smart guns. We also have a lot of laws and customs that are actually causing crimes. Allowing private bail companies and failure to provide money to hire private lawyers are causing people to commit crimes to pay for lawyers and bails. But because money is involved no progress can be made to build a decent criminal justice system.

  13. Re:Bitcoin? by Feyshtey · · Score: 2

    By what standard do you suggest that most people stop learning by age 25? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    If you're just referring to the fact that by 25 most people have stopped going to school I'll grant you that much. Aside from the fact that its apparent many dont learn much beyond how to do keg stands while college, most everyone continues to learn throughout their lives. Even beyond retirement age. If you dont you stagnate in your career and in your relationships. And most of that learning cannot be replicated in any kind of school other than that of real life.

    I commend you for taking up a musical instrument, age aside. But if you felt you needed to do that so that you continued using your mind, I'd seriously reevaluate your life.

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  14. Re:Rest of the world chimes in. by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

    Many people who hail the gold standard ignore a simple fact: A gold standard for coins means constant deflation, which is bad in most economic situation, because it gives incentives for hoarding money instead of spending it.

    Yes! The HORROR OF THINGS GOING DOWN IN PRICE! IT MUST BE BANNED!

    Dude, we've had constant deflation in electronics prices since... well, forever, in electronics terms. Deflation is the norm in a free market, as productivity increases lead to lower prices.

    You're confusing decreases in individual prices with overall increases in value of currency. These are two completely different things, and they have completely different macroeconomic effects.

    Only governments think it's a bad thing, because they can tax inflation, but can't tax deflation.

    Nope. Anyone who likes to spend money or invest money likes inflation. You speak about "productivity increases," but productivity increases need to be FUNDED by someone. Who funds them? Well, particularly if they require more risky or uncertain innovation, they tend to be jumpstarted by investors. And rich people have significantly less incentive to invest in risky things when they can make more money just by piling it up in their money bins, as is true in a deflationary economy.

    Just stop and think about the consequences of deflation for a moment. I think people who argue in favor of it tend to believe that somehow things will "cost less" for them. But they won't -- prices may go down, but so will incomes. Wait -- you thought you'd be able to keep your same salary when everyone is paying less and earning less for investments??? No dice. Your income needs to be cut to conform with reduced revenues and investment income. Thus, prices go down, but you get paid less.

    You want to buy a house? You want to open a new business? Why would you?? -- it will likely be worth significantly less in a few years. Mortgages and loans become next-to-impossible to justify either for lenders or for borrowers, because you end up paying MORE in value as your income decreases, while the value of your asset is depreciating. (With mild inflation, your principle payments decrease in purchasing power, while your income generally rises gradually.)

    Why would you invest any money in any significant asset in a deflationary market, since you'll only lose money in the long run? Sure, rich people with "money to burn" will still have their luxuries, but most people won't be interested in throwing money away at depreciating assets everywhere when they could just keep it in their account and get more value. Well, actually people take money out of banks, because banks start charging people to hold money, since they can't earn interest on most investments anymore. So, there's a run on the banks and everyone stuffs cash under the mattress.

    Gradually, the economy grinds to a halt as a deflationary spiral begins. Welcome to the next Great Depression. (You think I'm joking? Just take a moment and look at periods of sustained deflation in world history -- they almost always correspond to severe economic depressions.)

    TL;DR: Sustained deflation of currency is NOT the same as price decreases in specific sectors. Sustained deflation of currency is generally bad for just about everyone, except rich people who already have a giant bin full of cash and will now just sit on it as it grows and grows in value, rather than moving that money around where some investments might lead to further economic activity.