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Vivaldi Hits Its First Beta (vivaldi.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Following well over 50 developer snapshots and 4 technical previews (Alpha), the new browser upstart has hit its first Beta release today. Following almost a year of work on alpha, Vivaldi is coming out with many unique features such as tab stacking and tiling, notes, and quick commands for navigating and feature use. Other features are in the works, such as sync and built-in mail client that will be introduced when they hit a more stable state. It's a refreshing take on the browser: as many others are diverging to a common design template, Vivaldi is taking a more feature-rich and customization-heavy approach. (We linked to a hands-on report about Vivaldi earlier this year, too.)
Nobody needs a new browser.
Where is the privacy policy?
Sounds like they are implementing lots of features I saw in Solaris over a decade ago. Sure, it's a browser instead of an OS but.... Well, I'l give it a look just like I did with Sun's uber desktop.
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"diverging to a common design template" does not compute
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as many others are diverging to a common design template
No. Diverging is what the editors are doing from the English language.
diverging:
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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>> Vivaldi is taking a more feature-rich and customization-heavy approach
No thanks - we already have this from Firefox (yuck) and to a lesser extent Chrome. Give us the ability to shut off Flash animations and HTML5 video by default on our browser and you'll have millions of downloads.
$ vivaldi-beta
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Will it work with AMC.com on 5.0 Android? Chrome is a POS there to watch shows.
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Just installed Vivaldi. After 15 seconds of use. ....
:-)
No trumpeting unicorns. I still have to get up to get some coffee. I don't see what's so special about it
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Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
All they have to do is provide a modern replica of firefox 3.x and I'd switch in a heartbeat. The firefox of 2015 is ugly, frustrating, and feature-incomplete (for christ's sake, you can't even sort your bookmarks anymore, can't stop a page from loading, can't go to the previous page, the list goes on and on). It's about damn time we got our desktop browser back.
... said no web designer, ever.
The browser isn't Open Source, but uses Open Source. That makes it a non-starter. Nice try. Actually, no, bad try. Try again.
Don't worry, it's 97% compatible with HTML5 and ECMAScript 5 specs *** (Citation needed)
When I look at the latest browser market share stats, I can't help but notice that things aren't looking good for Firefox at all.
Being generous, Firefox only has maybe 8% of the entire browser market. Firefox has almost no mobile presence at all (0.05%). We see Chrome for Android alone having about twice the market share that Firefox has across all platforms. iOS Safari has about the same market share as Firefox does on all platforms. Even Opera Mini has about the same market share. There are a couple of individual versions of desktop Chrome that have almost twice the market share of Firefox!
Mozilla is only relevant because of Firefox. It's the only product of theirs that still has at least some users. They pretty much abandoned Thunderbird, so its users have been slowly dwindling away. Bugzilla is a relic. Firefox OS has been a disaster. Servo is going nowhere. Rust blew its chance by taking so long to get to 1.0, and people have lost interest in it now that C++14 is a better alternative.
Given how we see Firefox's market share continually dropping, thanks to Mozilla screwing up the user experience so badly, I don't think it will be relevant 2 years from now. When Firefox is down at 0.5% of the browser market by that time, nobody will care about what Mozilla and Firefox users have to say about the direction that the web is taking.
It didn't have to be this way, of course. All Mozilla had to do was provide a good user experience. Like you point out, they used to know how to do this. But ever since Firefox 4, it has been a total disaster, and the next-to-nothing market share proves this. Users don't want to use Firefox any longer because it is so awful, even if the alternatives aren't necessarily that much better.
At least those behind Vivaldi seem to know what users want. Maybe Mozilla could save itself by imitating Vivaldi instead of imitating Chrome. Clearly, imitating Chrome has done nothing for Firefox but drive away its users.
Will be worth checking out. Was a fan of Opera from back in the Win 3.xx days.
But if it uses JavaScript to do its thing, can JavaScript be turned off for sites? Hmm. I normally run with no-script in Firefox.
We have lots of browsers with too many features. At the moment, I am staring at my Firefox session using nearly 1 GB of memory. I usually shut it down when it hits 1.5 GB. There is really no excuse for a browser to be using that much memory. Including images, each tab is probably using less than 1 MB of space. I have maybe 20 tabs open, so 20 MB seems like a reasonable amount of memory to be using. A feature I WOULD like to see is a breakdown of memory and CPU usage by tab, so I can permanently block sites that use too much CPU or memory. Also, something which can tell me which tab is playing some audio, so I can permanently block any site that does that without being told to do that.
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Let the recapitulation begin!
Or, at least, let Timothy please look up the difference between convergence and divergence.
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So it's a new browser. So what any new functionality that's cool and people like will simply get absorbed into Chrome, Firefox etc the last thing we need is yet another platform to test on.
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
I for one welcome our new testing nightmare overlords
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
Can we have a browser which is, you know, just a browser?
We don't want social integrations, we don't want cross device linking, we don't need an emailclient, a chat client, something to manage our contacts, sidebars, or any of a dozen features we just turn off an ignore.
We want a browser, small, lean, standards compliant, not a memory pig, and which respects our privacy.
Stop trying to make some do-everything turd which wants to be the center of our freaking lives. We don't need another one of those.
Do one thing, a web browser, that's it.
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Doesn't firefox already have notes (without an addon)? It's kind of a hassle on my touch enabled devices, actually. All browsers even ie2 have quick commands for navigating and feature use. So it's a new browser that brings tab stacking to the table!
How did the world get by before vivaldi?
I just played with the beta a bit on Mac OS X 10.8.5.
The good: A respectable score of 521 in html5test.com.
The bad:
1) Bookmarklets apparently aren't supported in the beta. I created one
javascript:alert("bye");
which works fine on Safari, but which gives me an error message "Inalid URL." when I define it.
And according the discussion here, other users can't do bookmarklets either.
2) I also wish they'd have a way for me to request a peaceful, quiet, calm, whatever you want to call it, mode. No sound, no movies played, no animated gifs, no carousels that automatically play. Of course, no blinking or marquee. Even better, run only JavaScript from the web page's site and bookmarklets. Don't run JavaScript from adware sites.
I've been following the snapshot diligently, and as a huge fan of Presto Opera, it's almost everything that I've been missing (still currently using Opera w/Blink). The one deal-breaker for me is the fact that a few of my absolutely extensions don't work properly.
It's aimed at old people then?
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
They need to do some user interface work. The menu is cluttered and hard to find options compared to Chrome's menu. The themes of Vivaldi to match websites are wonderful, but the starting red color is very harsh. The smooth scrolling is also off-putting. There is some noticeable lag that is unfamiliar to people who use Chrome and Firefox.
Vivaldi is built by the same people as the original (before it became a "skin" for Chrome) Opera was, so the design and features are not really surprising.
I wonder what will we have to sell to be able to use this browser, though. Aka, how is Vivaldi going to make money with this "free" (as in beer) browser?
Now Though? It's taken over a year for any extension at all to be able to be used (from it's icon). Vivaldi is closed source like everything that Jon von Tetzchner is involved in. The whole "for our friends" and placating manner seems disingenuous.
Personally, I can't stand their implementation of Tab-Stacks - it is less than useless, and just makes finding a given tab even more difficult than it already is when you have "too many" open.
Then there's the whole censorship crap that goes on in the forums - just like it always was over at Opera HQ - though perhaps the mods aren't as completely off the hook over on Opera's side these days --- though it still is prevalent.
I got banned from Vivaldi.net last week because it's auto-spam detector didn't like a forum post that did word|word|word|word. I had been a member since the beginning, had a post history over the last year+. At this point, well fuck you Vivaldi.
Use it, like it.
and a long list of NPM modules.
No thanks!
Since it is chromium based, does it
1) remove all the google phone home junk?
2) block ads
3) block js/flash
4) remove all the google phone home junk?
5) block all tracking?
if it doesn't do any of the above, what is the reason to switch?
"Following almost a year of work on alpha..."
So... Four Seasons of Vivaldi then?
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I think the browser market is saturated.
If it does not support some kind of vimperator like interface and does not allow to hide a lot of UI elements then it is useless to me. And it needs integrated (or as a plugin) adblock, noscript, or at least policeman.
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As a former Opera user I finally feel appreciated with this browser. Opera after 12.XX was just Chrome with the Opera logo on it. They took for eternety to get important features like the bookmarks bar into the browser...
All the features I loved with old opera were just scrapped. -.-
I loved taking notes without having to install some sh**** addon. I love Vivaldis WebPanels and I can assign any letter I want for search engines.
Seriously Opera what's wrong with you? I can't assign my most used search engines to the standard letters because you overwrite it with yahoo and duckduckgo boo!
What I still miss in Vivaldi is saving multiple sessions like one for developers, one for videos, etc.
Vivaldi is the only browser trying to give me back what I miss in ALL new browsers and I feel very comfortable using it.
Vivaldi team you're doing a great job.