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UK and US Suspect That ISIS Bomb Took Down Flight 9268 (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader writes with a report from CNN that U.S. and UK intelligence agencies believe it is more likely than not that the destruction on October 31st of a Russian A321 jetliner in Sinai "was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an affiliate of the group." Kogalymavia Flight 9268 fell apart in flight, killing all aboard. From CNN's article: The British government announced Wednesday that it had "become concerned that the plane may well have been brought down by an explosive device." A formal conclusion has not been reached by the intelligence communities of either country. An UK aviation team is travelling to inspect the Sharm airport to look at whether there were proper security measures at the airport and the various scenarios by which an explosive device could have made it to the Russian airliner "including a person or in cargo," according to the British transport minister. Both Russian and Egyptian officials discount the claim, but detecting bombs is hard.

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  1. Bombs are easy to detect (now) by mbone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Both Russian and Egyptian officials discount the claim, but detecting bombs is hard.

    Not after the fact. If there was an explosion inside the cabin or luggage compartment, there will be internal paneling, structural members, etc., blackened and bent and peppered with explosive ejecta littering the deserts of the Sinai. That debris will look radically different from a structural failure due to metal fatigue, composite fairlures, bad repairs, etc., and will be in the wrong place to be the result of a fuel tank explosion. (And, an internal bomb will bend things out, while a missile strike will bend things in.) Making this determination in a case like this (where all of the debris should be easy to find) should be a straightforward case of air crash forensics.

  2. Re:It's either that... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

    (and with an almost spotless cosmonaut safety record for the last 40 years, unlike some other nations).

    Umm, you DO know, don't you, that the Russians lost two capsules full of men in ~120 flights, right?

    And that the USA lost two shuttles full of men in 135 flights, right?

    And that 2/135 is SMALLER than 2/120, right?

    In other words, the failure rates of the Russian and American launches is just about the same (Sorry, the fact that American failures were on international TV (unlike the Russian), does NOT make American failures more common - just more visible to the ignorant....

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  3. Re:Why would anyone go for a Holiday in a Muslim c by MasterOfMuppets · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because not all Muslims are violent terrorists? And not all Muslims wear traditional dress believe it or not.

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    The Master Of Muppets,
    CAPTAIN: TAKE OFF EVERY "SIG"!!
  4. Re:Why would anyone go for a Holiday in a Muslim c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow, way to paint with a broad brush.

    You know that Egypt's largest industry as % of GDP over the past 20 years has been tourism, right? And that millions of people visit every year wearing Western garb with absolutely no problem. Jordan,Turkey, Albania, Morocco, Malaysia, and until recently Syria and Iraq (before the West destabilized them and allowed fundamentalists to take over) are all places where wearing Western garb would be just fine.

    In fact, walking through any major city in the US in Western garb, you are far more likely to be killed violently than you would be in many predominantly Muslim countries.

  5. Re:Why would anyone go for a Holiday in a Muslim c by dave420 · · Score: 2, Informative

    He doesn't want to learn. He pops up in almost every thread to do with terrorism or Islam and spouts his nonsense. Sometimes the thread has nothing to do with that topic yet still he pops up, vomits his ill-informed hatred everywhere, and then disappears back into the sewers from whence he came.

  6. Re: I wouldn't put it past Putin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If the plane broke up, you wouldn't have a tube full of fuel hitting the ground and burning up. Even if it was still full of fuel, the impact soul not necessarily ignite it.

    Have you looked at the crash scene photos? There's a lot of luggage that appears intact, not burned to a crisp.

  7. Re:It's either that... by Talderas · · Score: 5, Informative

    6 Vostok (0 fatalities) [0%]
    2 Voskhod (0 fatalities) [0%]
    127 Soyuz (4 fatalities - 2 missions) [1.575%]
    135 missions - 2 incidents [1.481%]

    6 Mercury (0 fatalities) [0%]
    10 Gemini (0 fatalities) [0%]
    11 Apollo (0 fatalities) [0%]
    135 Shuttle (14 fatalities - 2 missions) [1.481%]
    162 missions - 2 incidents [1.235%]

    Apollo 1 falls under the test/training mission and was never a flight.

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  8. Re:It's either that... by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually China is only top for cheaper goods (i.e. t-shirts, small electronics, plastic toys) whereas the US still reigns supreme when it comes to manufacturing capital goods (i.e. earth movers, jumbo jets, high density silicon devices.)