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LA's Smart LED Street Lights Boost Wireless Connectivity (philips.com)

Posted by Soulskill on from the internet-with-a-dimmer-switch dept.

An anonymous reader writes: Los Angeles will introduce a smart street lighting system, featuring connected LEDs and fully-integrated 4G LTE wireless technology. In a collaboration between Dutch tech firm Philips and Swedish telco Ericsson, the SmartPole project aims to deliver LA citizens public lighting which is energy efficient and improves network performance in urban areas. By the close of this week, a total of 24 SmartPoles will be installed across the Hollywood area. The city plans to place 100 poles over the coming year, with a further 500 to follow.

75 comments

  1. Yay Slashvertisement! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Next thing you know, they'll be putting antennas on a pole.

  2. Location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Free wifi, free location data for traffic.

  3. Hmmm ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the cynic in me says "we'll be able to see you better, and monitor your cellphone activity better".

    According to Ericsson senior vice president and head of business unit Radio, Arun Bansal, LA is becoming a role model for other smart cities developing Internet of Things (IoT) solutions.

    Oh, I see .. LA has been hoodwinked into funding someone's marketing drive, and LA will be the reference case for how they leveraged their synergies with emerging IoT technologies to deliver the blah blah blahs in an agile manner.

    Give it a few years, it won't work, it will have cost too much, and will be found to have massive security holes which can't be fixed without spending huge sums of money.

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    1. Re:Hmmm ... by zlives · · Score: 1

      you forgot to include "leveraging cloud technologies" and "disruptive engineering"

    2. Re:Hmmm ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Meh, I was feeling lazy and didn't want to waste my time .. hence the "blah blah blah".

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    3. Re:Hmmm ... by zlives · · Score: 2

      i am quite familiar with the deliverables of blah blah blah, and they are clearly in addition to disruptive markets.

    4. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're totally right. Americans should all carry around their own LED lights and cell phone transmitters. FUCK ALL THIS EUROPEAN SOCIALISM!!!

    5. Re:Hmmm ... by lazarus · · Score: 1

      Give it a few years, it won't work, it will have cost too much, and will be found to have massive security holes which can't be fixed without spending huge sums of money.

      Well, you're probably pretty close. This is what happened in Toronto.

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    6. Re:Hmmm ... by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      That site doesn't want any customers. Do you have a proper link?

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    7. Re:Hmmm ... by lazarus · · Score: 1

      Weird. Works for me. Here's the link:
      http://www.metronews.ca/news/t...

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    8. Re:Hmmm ... by justthinkit · · Score: 1
      Page displays nothing but:

      Sorry, MetroNews.ca requires JavaScript.

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    9. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe hanging out on this crank site has made you too paranoid. Try avoiding all conspiracy-media for a couple of weeks, and doing something positive. You'll probably feel better.

    10. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The page isn't the problem; Your browser is broken, so many sites won't display properly.
      Use something that supports javascript for normal browsing (hint:every modern browser). You just need to turn it off when you're buying your drugs.

    11. Re:Hmmm ... by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      That's strangely deliberate. (It does the same to me with noscript turned on.)

      I'm used to pages not functioning without javascript but not flat out refusing to display the site.

      Oh well. I'm sure it was a great story.

  4. Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...we all know that the heavily populated urban areas of the US need better wireless coverage. There's absolutely no other gaping holes in wireless coverage in the US to worry about.

  5. Strange priorities around here.. by twotacocombo · · Score: 1

    Instead of installing internet-connected streetlights (that nobody asked for), can you please FIX THE FUCKING POTHOLES???

    1. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Why? You can't claim to be, er, "paving the way forward" when all you're doing is paving the way forward.

      That doesn't cast you as an innovator building the city of tomorrow.

      Where's the excitement and photo ops there?

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    2. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're just trying to boost the tax base by forcing people to buy SUVs and spend money at local auto repair shops.

      Too bad everybody's money already going to housing.

    3. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      can you please FIX THE FUCKING POTHOLES???

      This is in Los Angeles. There is no freeze-thaw cycle there, and as a result, few potholes. I live in San Jose, 350 miles north of LA, and even here there are very few potholes.

    4. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by threephaseboy · · Score: 1

      can you please FIX THE FUCKING POTHOLES???

      This is in Los Angeles. There is no freeze-thaw cycle there, and as a result, few potholes. I live in San Jose, 350 miles north of LA, and even here there are very few potholes.

      Not sure if serious

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    5. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by twotacocombo · · Score: 1

      This is in Los Angeles. There is no freeze-thaw cycle there, and as a result, few potholes.

      I invite you to come down to Los Angeles and drive our beautiful streets, especially the day after any measurable rain. And don't even get me started on the sidewalks, which the ents have been heaving out of the ground for decades.

    6. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck are ents?

    7. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      What the fuck are ents?

      get out and hand over you geek card.

      Ent

      What happened that someone would be on Slashdot and not get a L.o.T.R. reference.

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    8. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I invite you to leave LA and visit someplace with shitty weather and truly shitty roads. I suggest Detroit.

      You will never whine about LA roads again.

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    9. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they can do both!

      Embed "smart" dingleberries into the road when they fill the pot holes... that way they the roads can be smart too...

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    10. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by twotacocombo · · Score: 1

      I invite you to leave LA and visit someplace with shitty weather and truly shitty roads. I suggest Detroit.

      You will never whine about LA roads again.

      I never said we had the worst roads, just that the roads should be fixed before we start installing WiFi on them. LA does have it's share of truly shitty weather though, but the opposite of Detroit. It's always fun when it's 110+ degrees, the wind is blowing the trees sideways while they're also on fire. You've never wanted to see snow more than when the Santa Ana's are blowing through!

    11. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      Those are considered potholes? WTH man, those are cracks in the pavement. Potholes are when there is a hole in the pavement large enough for your tire to get damaged when it falls into it. You should visit anywhere that gets ice and see what a real pothole is.

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    12. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by threephaseboy · · Score: 1

      It's bad enough that CalTrans estimates that approximately 1,500 Bay Area drivers a year are filing damage claims against the state, hoping to recoup the money spent on repairs from bad roads

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    13. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's an answer for you, get your spraypaint out......

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/27/artist-penis-potholes-wanksy_n_7149810.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

    14. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by Frigga's+Ring · · Score: 1

      As a Massachusettsian, I agree that those of us who get regular snow and ice in the winter have some crazy potholes, but this isn't one of those topics were we need to compare who has it worse. Whether its a crack big enough to screw up your alignment or a pothole in which the entire front end of your car sinks, it sucks and it should be fixed before some of these other projects go live.

    15. Re:Strange priorities around here.. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      They don't need to hand it over. We're geeks. We can revoke it from remote, quite probably with a variety of protocols.

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  6. Big data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "“We are now taking advantage of previously untapped real estate to give our streets better broadband connectivity and future-ready infrastructure, while generating revenue for the city"

    How is this revenue generated?

    1. Re:Big data? by tomhath · · Score: 1

      Cell providers are renting space. Much cheaper than putting up a tower or renting space on a rooftop.

    2. Re:Big data? by Adriax · · Score: 1

      Probably through bandwidth sales on the wifi.
      When you connect you'll be redirected to a splash page till you decide on a temporary service level and fork over some cash. I'd expect the service plans to range from a couple dollars for a couple hours hours to a full month subscription for the device. Plus possibly a free access tier at sub megabit speeds.

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  7. Safer Streets? by Luthair · · Score: 1

    A strange claim given historically street lights have been shown not to have an impact on crime.

    1. Re:Safer Streets? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      A strange claim given historically street lights have been shown not to have an impact on crime.

      There is little evidence that lighting makes streets safer, or prevents traffic accidents, but there is overwhelming evidence that it makes people feel safer. Politicians receive a storm of complaints when streetlights go out.

    2. Re:Safer Streets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Sources for that?
      2. Do you also claim that street lights do not prevent accidents?

    3. Re:Safer Streets? by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Agree, but the unsafe condition is some lights working and some not; your eyes can't adapt quickly enough.

  8. L.A. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Nice for L.A.

    Also, the lights detect when a pedestrian or car is in the sensor and increases the light from a dimmed state to extra bright.

    After all this is L.A. and the drive-by-shooters can see their victims better with these lights and won't shoot as many bystanders.

    1. Re:L.A. by Moof123 · · Score: 1

      Neither link mentions dimming the lights to save power. Honestly, doing so would be a bad idea. We have a street light across from our bedroom that I wish was dimmer, but one that pulses form dim to bright every time someone walks by would be more distracting than a steadily bright one.

      The "smart' seems to simply be that a small fiber connected base station is being integrated into a light pole. Big whoop. The other solution for improving cell service in urban areas I've seen proposed is a flat ~1x1 m wall mounted cell site that can be bolted on the side of a building, and looks to be less ugly than this solution.

    2. Re:L.A. by Teun · · Score: 1

      This morning I was reading an article about Amsterdam going to move 130,000 poles to LED.
      The same story explained that addition savings were going to be made because the lights would in the absence of traffic dim.
      I spend a lot of time in Denmark living on a private road, the local council has mandated we need to change any lights containing Mercury (fluorescents) to LED and they need the ability to dim.

      What these stories have in common is Philips.

      Running fiber along the power lines is probably a good insurance for the future and putting 4G or some sort of broadband up the poles could help paying for the conversion.

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  9. Dumb + "smart" ~= lock-in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So basically a dumb LED light set with high efficiency and reduced maintenance costs due to lasting time, unnecessarily fused with an energy expensive radio system with quick obsoleting "smart" components, to guarantee a revenue stream. Not that having the two attached to the same pole is a bad idea when you do need both, but if you cant swap the bulb and the wi-fi separately (or exclude the expensive wi-fi from 9/10 poles), and mix and match manufacturers then you just set your self up for future costs and a lot of wasted energy due to manufacturing costs.

    1. Re:Dumb + "smart" ~= lock-in by Teun · · Score: 1

      So where does it read this stuff is not going to be modular?

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  10. smart? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

    So, several years from now, when the "smart" prefix is played out or new technology makes "smart" look "dumb" what do we call these poles? Light posts?

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    1. Re:smart? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Failed products? Wastes of taxpayer money?

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    2. Re:smart? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "iPole"

  11. Why Is It So Big And Ugly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is it so big and ugly?

    1. Re:Why Is It So Big And Ugly? by trevc · · Score: 1

      Why is it so big and ugly?

      That's what she said

  12. Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    What I find really sad is that sodium lighting invented almost a century ago is still more efficient per output photon than led lighting is currently. Also much easier on the eyes while night driving. I absolutely hate blueish led lights slowly taking over the town. Just because something is "new" does not make it better.

    1. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      The claim is that while sodium is more efficient per lumen, LEDs put out a directional light and so total lumens used is lower. This is also supposed to make the skies darker. LEDs are also supposed to have a longer life, reducing maintenance costs.

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    2. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by cnaumann · · Score: 4, Informative

      High Pressure Sodium lamp produce somewhere between 50-140 lumens per watt depending on bulb size, bulb age, temperature, and the type of ballast used. LEDs have passed the 300 lumens per watt mark in the lab and real-word LEDs are currently running 70-120 lumens per watt and constantly improving. Unlike HPS lamps, LEDs are directional which can be lead to additional savings.

      It is still not clear what the real-world bulb life of LEDs will be so it is difficult to calculate the total cost of operations. Since electrical power is usually abundant at night, power is only a small factor in the cost of operating street light. It is unlikely that further improvements in LED efficiency will have any meaningful impact on operating cost.

      In spite of the relatively poor color rendering index of HPS lights, I also find the warm orange from HPS easier on my eyes for night driving. It is also possible (but not cheap!) to filter out most HPS light for sky viewing.

      I wish we could re-think the whole idea of street lighting and use if more sparingly. It is very helpful to have intersections marked with lights but there is no need to light every street, every hour of every night. Dark can be quite nice!

    3. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by PPH · · Score: 2

      Also much easier on the eyes while night driving.

      How soon they forget.

      I was working for the local utility when we made the switch from mercury vapor to sodium vapor lighting. The screams and howls about poor color rendition and visibility problems almost made us switch back.

      Sodium vapor lamps may be more efficient. But just ask the cops who were around at the time of the switchover. Every hit-and-run vehicle reported was a muddy brown color and every suspect was black.

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    4. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is reasonable to expect that decent quality lighting LEDs will do exactly what the lab ones do, they get gradually dimmer, if used for say 4000 hours per year they'll be obviously dimmer after 6-7 years, and be a subject of constant complaint within 10 years. But they won't just drop dead like incandescents, so you can just schedule a crew to go along a whole street and replace every single unit. If money is tight maybe do it every 8 years, just as people start to get annoyed that their local lights seem a bit darker ('cos they are) than most people's. If money gets really tight (think Detroit) just don't replace them, they'll be awful, but they won't actually leave obvious dark patches.

    5. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also much easier on the eyes while night driving.

      How soon they forget.

      I was working for the local utility when we made the switch from mercury vapor to sodium vapor lighting. The screams and howls about poor color rendition and visibility problems almost made us switch back.

      Sodium vapor lamps may be more efficient. But just ask the cops who were around at the time of the switchover. Every hit-and-run vehicle reported was a muddy brown color and every suspect was black.

      So what changed again?

    6. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      The claim is that while sodium is more efficient per lumen, LEDs put out a directional light and so total lumens used is lower.

      Apparently reflectors only work with led lighting.

      This is also supposed to make the skies darker.

      It precludes the ability to use narrow band filters making things worse for the people who care.

      LEDs are also supposed to have a longer life, reducing maintenance costs.

      We all know drivers will fail way before the lights themselves do but you still have a point. The question is does the cost of changing light bulbs more often outweigh cost of led lighting on society? In disruption of sleep in humans and animals and blue light related eye damage?

    7. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Despite studies Philips has done in China and Lyon indicating that 3700K is much easier on peoples eyes, Seattle choose LEDs that are 5000K because, "it looks like moonlight*" Now nearly every street looks like a football field bathed in extremely harsh, bright, dystopian light.

      Some local stores have made the switch as well. Everywhere you go there is often extremely bright, blue tinted light.

      I'd be interested to know of places that are using LEDs but understand what appropriate color temperature at night is.

      *and cops were pushing for it due to getting more accurate suspect descriptions under such light.

    8. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      That is low pressure sodium; it is monochromatic. High pressure sodium has reasonable color rendering.

      For efficiency and color rendering the LEDs can offer the best balance, but the biggest advantage to LED is the ability to dim them at low need times.

    9. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by PPH · · Score: 1

      High pressure sodium has a CRI of 20 to 25. 'White' LEDs can be around 60 or better. Which is still crap, but usable.

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    10. Re:Sodium lamps are more effecient than LEDs by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Apparently reflectors only work with led lighting.

      I think because of the quality of light, they also get away with a lower number of lumens. I'm not entirely sure what the mechanism is, but I do know that they save money by reducing the power usage. LA is being aggressive with its role-out because of the power savings so far.

      The question is does the cost of changing light bulbs more often outweigh cost of led lighting on society?

      I don't know what the "cost to society is", but economically it probably depends on many local factors: whether you need union labor, how accessible the fixtures are, etc.

      In disruption of sleep in humans and animals and blue light related eye damage?

      I haven't seen any studies on any of these things. Animals would seem more likely than humans, but how many animals live near lit roadways? And eye damage? I find that very implausible - even a very bright LED fixture is a fraction of the brightness of the sun. And we got on with mercury lights for around 50 years before sodium lamps became predominant.

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  13. Those who trade freedom for safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Public lighting is inherently INefficient, because it's public. An ideal system would involve the lights switching only when a paid subscriber comes into range; those who are unwilling to pay have made a market decision, as rational consumers, to take the risk of being murdered, mugged, raped and murdered. Which I totally agree with. Robbing them at gunpoint to pay for their so-called safety is the purest hypocrisy.

    I'm an expert on POS systems and I have a prototype in place, but thanks to Obama and his bleeding heart liberals there's been no interest in implementing it.

    I would add that my system was built by people who were willing to work for free to get the experience and the benefit of my hard earned talents instead of expecting to get everything on a plate. Enough of them and this country will be great again.
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    1. Re:Those who trade freedom for safety by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Okay,I genuinely can't figure out if you're serious or satirical ?
      Poe's Law in action.

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    2. Re:Those who trade freedom for safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Public lighting is inherently INefficient, because it's public. An ideal system would involve the lights switching only when a paid subscriber comes into range; those who are unwilling to pay have made a market decision, as rational consumers, to take the risk of being murdered, mugged, raped and murdered. Which I totally agree with. Robbing them at gunpoint to pay for their so-called safety is the purest hypocrisy.

      I'm an expert on POS systems

      You're certainly an expert on Pile Of Shit logic, I give you that. Fail.

      You might want to consider scriptwriting for a new series of Monty Python though.

    3. Re:Those who trade freedom for safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize there's more crime when there's public lighting until it reaches daylight levels, which only happens in major population centers like NYC's Time Square? More light means your eyes don't get used to the dark meaning it's harder to see into those shadows. It is easier for criminals to hide in those shadows unseen. Without the light, there aren't shadows like that and your eyes are more adjusted to your surroundings better. You can see criminals far better when everything is dark or consistently lighted from your headlights compared to the constantly changing bright->dim->dark->dim->bright->dim->etc... street lights. LED street lights will make this worse due to the effect bluer light has on human biology. Blue light has the worse effect on our night vision and is the color we see least clearly, not to mention the effects on our circadian rhythms, but that could be a good thing for sleepy drivers.

      Any sane person or anyone who trusts scientific research and data minding wouldn't pay for the lights. Plus, a moving lighted area would instantly signal where the targets are. A mugger's dream.

    4. Re:Those who trade freedom for safety by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Do you have a citation for that? Specifically that there's more crime when there is public lighting of less than daylight levels? I'm not able to find any confirmation and this is contrary to the industry standards. Yes, yes I did model traffic and yes, lighting does come into play. I've seen research that indicated the level of crime was higher where there was no lighting at all. While your idea does sound plausible, I'm unable to confirm this with Google.

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  14. "Less light!" said Anti-Goethe while being born. by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 1

    I personally would prefer to see a streetlight that's smart enough to know when it's not needed. See: http://darksky.org/.

  15. Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm concerned about this.
    It will we be quickly hacked. Problem is ... unless the hackers do some serious damage and/or really scare people, we'll be stuck with this IoT crap for the foreseeable future.

    Bottom line, I'd like some malicious punks to destroy it before any security "researchers" or some idiotic script kiddies that like to "fool around".

  16. I get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Smart lights, smart cars, smart smart food, Scratch head. Scratch some more. When drivers and politicians are dumb as post and fat as cows. MOO. Sweet!

  17. About time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had this idea back in 2001, glad to see someone finally getting around to implementing it. Makes perfect sense to put cell/w-fi receivers in every single street pole. I'm sure Comcast/At&T will sue to try and block this type of progress though.

  18. Coren22's desperation, lies, & libel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!

    Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?

    Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??

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    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    APK

    P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

  19. We've seen this movie before and know how it turns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    out. Metricom/Ricochet in the 1990's.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricochet_(Internet_service)#Technology

  20. Coren22 proven a LYING punk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)

    Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    (Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)

    I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).

    I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.

    I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).

    Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk

  21. Coren22 "security guru" wannabe fails security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it

    &

    How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?

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    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!

    FACT:

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!

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    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

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    * HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?

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    Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!

    I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

    I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...

    You told me you learn from guides?

    I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...

    + WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    You did all that? No!

    (& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk

  22. Coren22's desperation, lies, & libel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!

    Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?

    Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??

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    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    APK

    P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)