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Finland Releases National Emoji Collection (theguardian.com)

Posted by Soulskill on from the something-to-lord-over-sweden dept.

jones_supa writes: Finland has rolled out images of a couple in a sauna, a legendary Nokia phone (the 3310) and a heavy metal music fan as part of a set of official national emojis to be used in communication. Billing the use of national symbols for themed emojis as a world first, the government plans to publish the full set in December – for anyone in the world to download on its promotional website. "The Finland emojis were designed with a tongue in cheek approach, but I hope that they will tell the world not only about our special features but also something about our strengths," said Petra Theman, director for public diplomacy at the foreign ministry.

93 comments

  1. Finnish Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    This is what Finland's 79% tax rate buys you.

    Enjoy.

    1. Re:Finnish Taxes by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: -1

      Uninformed right-wing criticism? Umm, thanks for that.

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      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    2. Re:Finnish Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still beats good ol' US SJW-ism, which got us those sickly-looking faces by default and the new ability to pick "skin colors" on emoji. Not to mention the new "two mommies, two daughters" emoji, 'cause that was clearly necessary.

      Also I'll bet this cost Finland less than it cost us to make a blimp whose sole useful feature was taking out power for part of Pennsylvania.

    3. Re:Finnish Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Being your rebuttal contained no substance, I'm inclined to believe the OP until someone presents a more informative reply than yours.

    4. Re:Finnish Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being the original contained no substance, I'm inclined to believe you are a moron who believes whatever shit you are told until.

    5. Re:Finnish Taxes by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Being your rebuttal contained no substance, I'm inclined to believe the OP

      Or you could take 5 seconds to Google the answer. Finland's taxes are 44% of GDP. America's taxes are 27% of GDP.

      List of countries by tax revenue as a percent of GDP.

    6. Re:Finnish Taxes by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Being your rebuttal contained no substance...

      I pointed out that you are uninformed. What you choose to do with that substance is up to you.

      ... I'm inclined to believe the OP until someone presents a more informative reply than yours.

      There's a third option: Do some research on your own. It involves more work, and it's not as fun as spitting pre-digested arguments that you really don't understand with anonymous people on-line, but you'll end up being far less prone to Sheepism than you are right now.

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      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    7. Re:Finnish Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not the same thing tho. You are citing a percentage of the GPD that is collected as taxes instead of the taxation of an individual.

      For example, income tax can be roughly 18-65%, municipal tax of 0-28%, state tax, church tax, national broadcasting tax, capital income tax 7-38%, Value Added Tax is 24% for most things, etc.

    8. Re:Finnish Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're using the same math that Atari used to call the Jaguar 64-bit.

    9. Re:Finnish Taxes by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Still beats good ol' US SJW-ism

      My new drinking game for Fridays is that every time someone mentions "SJWs" in a post, I have to take a drink.

      I think we're off to a good start here.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    10. Re:Finnish Taxes by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You're gonna die from alcohol poisoning. SJWs SJWs SJWs SJWs

      Thank me later.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    11. Re:Finnish Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're gonna die from alcohol poisoning. SJWs SJWs SJWs SJWs

      Just like any SJW...

  2. So along those lines ... by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

    Is there a proper 'tongue-in-cheek' emoji?

    1. Re:So along those lines ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a proper 'tongue-in-cheek' emoji?

      No. Nor, from what we can gather, is there any SJW emoji.

  3. Rooskies Lebensborn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did the Russians ever return the land the took from Finland during WWII? Just asking....Putin seems liberal on such matters, right?

    1. Re:Rooskies Lebensborn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope! After all, we agreed to give it away.

    2. Re:Rooskies Lebensborn by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Maybe if the locals were freed to make a vote on ceding from Russia and rejoining Finland. It worked for Crimea didn't it?

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    3. Re:Rooskies Lebensborn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if the locals were freed to make a vote on ceding from Russia and rejoining Finland. It worked for Crimea didn't it?

      Most of the Finns left there. Russians moved in. A fair vote would be hard to predict - some Russians might prefer to be in Finland.

      Of course, the "Crimea"-style voting would show a clear majority for leaving Russia. It worked in Crimea...

  4. Russian Lebensraum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did the Rooskies ever return the land they took from Finland before WWII? Just asking...Putin seems liberal about such things

    1. Re:Russian Lebensraum by rossdee · · Score: 1

      Did the Rooskies ever return the land they took from Finland before WWII?

      Did you know that WWII started in September 1939? The "Winter War" took place in 1940

      I know some people on slashdot think that WWII started Dec 7, 1941

    2. Re:Russian Lebensraum by JSG · · Score: 1

      I think you'll find that others eg inhabitants of the Sudetenland from the time will tell you their WW2 started in 1938. Being a Brit, I was brought up on the '39-'45 timescale but that obviously neglects the before and after that sears the national consciousness of many other countries.

      "I know some people on slashdot think that WWII started Dec 7, 1941"

      I've been to the war museum in NOLA (it bills itself as the National Museum I recall) and it doesn't represent WW2 in quite the same way as war museums I have visited in UK, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France. However the museum in New Orleans does star Tom Hanks - the other places I've visited can't compete with that.

      My birthday is Dec 7 (and I am aware it is the day that Pearl Harbour was attacked.)

    3. Re:Russian Lebensraum by KGIII · · Score: 1

      If you're Chinese you may say that it started even sooner.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    4. Re:Russian Lebensraum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they didn't. And Putin will never give up anything taken by the great russian empire.

  5. your code is bad, you should feel bad by Thud457 · · Score: 0

    Is there one for your kernel patch is braindead and you're a moron?

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    1. Re:your code is bad, you should feel bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want an emoji that can run a barebones Linux kernel.

  6. Only morons use emoji by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    When I see emoji, the words that come to my mind are: uncultured, unrefined, uncouth, rabble, riffraff, low class, ignorant, ditz.

    1. Re:Only morons use emoji by Grishnakh · · Score: 0

      The Japanese have far more culture than you'll ever have. "riffraff"? "low class"? Japan is a nation where there's virtually no petty crimes. Finland probably isn't much worse. America OTOH is full of crime and poverty by comparison.

    2. Re:Only morons use emoji by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everything Japanese sucks. +5 Informative, you know it's true.

    3. Re:Only morons use emoji by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and by culture you mean the chikan culture or the vomiting porn.

    4. Re:Only morons use emoji by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      Why is it that when something bad is said about a nation, the automatic reaction is to compare it to the US like the US is the gold standard of everything.

      I would tend to say that the US has high crime rates mostly because we have multiple cultures living in one country. Finland and Japan are pretty much homogeneous.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    5. Re:Only morons use emoji by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Why is it that when something bad is said about a nation, the automatic reaction is to compare it to the US like the US is the gold standard of everything.

      It's definitely not, but the reason I compared to the US is because, in all likelihood, the anti-emoji poster above is American, so comparing to his own fucked-up country is entirely relevant. He's most likely American for simple reasons: this is an American site, and the majority of its users are American. He also writes like an American, and his obnoxious, ignorant attitude is extremely typical of American posters here. Usually, you don't see citizens of other nations here trashing various countries; that's something that's typical for Americans but not others.

    6. Re:Only morons use emoji by JSG · · Score: 1

      "Finland and Japan are pretty much homogeneous."

      Attempting to describe any country as homogenous is not a very good idea. I (possibly) understand where you are coming from but even within notional national boundaries there are other identities. For example (somewhere I do know about) within the UKoGB&NI, there are at least four national identities (England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales) then there are the other - relatively - nationalistic movements such as Cornwall (Kernow) and others that arise from time to time. You may or may not know or at least be dimly aware of Eire - the Republic of Ireland - which was once part of GB and gaining independence in the last century. Then as we slide back through time it gets increasingly complicated and involves bits of what we now know as France and Denmark with a light dusting of Sweden and a host of supporting characters. That's just the collection of islands to the right of mainland Europe. The history of the rest is a massively complicated web that has to be studied to be believed.

      Notions of nationhood and ideas of some form of homogeneity just don't work. Apart from anything else, try and define what a nation really is. For example is Wales really a nation? Yes!! From one perspective it is part of England (I'm English). It is referred to as a "principality" and has a Prince of Wales (currently Prince Charles.) The Queen (Elizabeth), who is actually many queens eg Queen of Australia and and many other countries and in this case of Great Britain which includes Wales as part of England and Scotland. When we add in Northern Ireland we get the United Kingdom of GB and NI. Despite all that, Wales has a National Assembly ie local government and there is a national language which is fairly pretty widely spoken alongside English.

      Japan and Finland both have a history that is rich and deep and bloody complicated. I know this purely because I know how the history of Europe works in some detail and I am gradually working my way out.

      Parochialism is an easy trap to fall into. Please read and travel more: the world is an amazingly diverse place. You think the US is a bit mixed up? You have no idea mate. I'll give you three books to read for starters: "Germania" by Simon Winder, "1000 Years of Annoying the French" by Stephen Clarke and "Stalingrad" by Antony Beevor. All three are admittedly by British authors.

      Anyway - there is no such thing as a homogenous country.

    7. Re:Only morons use emoji by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the rape of Nanking is high culture, indeed. On the other hand, the Finn's are awesome, generally. They stand up against USSR and doesn't afraid of anything.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    8. Re:Only morons use emoji by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I call your rape of Nanking and raise you a Trail of Tears, Jim Crow, slavery until the 1860s, lynchings until the 1960s or so, and police that shoot black men in the back in the 2010s.

    9. Re:Only morons use emoji by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Meh, those don't even come close to the total number of dead due to Japanese atrocities. Hell, you can even include all the natives wiped out by the various diseases in that number and it's still not even close. Shit, just in China they killed more and raped more. That's a mighty fine culture you've got there. Don't you still worship dead war criminals?

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    10. Re:Only morons use emoji by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Well you're still murdering black people left and right in 2015 so I don't think you have much of a leg to stand on with your shitty "culture".

    11. Re:Only morons use emoji by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I call your rape of Nanking and raise you a

      Cultural Revolution,
      Great Leap Forward / Great Chinese Famine,
      Great Internet Firewall,
      Google / Youtube / Facebook ban,
      Corruption
      Media cover up.

      Finally, the top three mass-murdering evils of today:

      Gutter Oil,
      Air Pollution, and
      Baby Milk Powder.

    12. Re:Only morons use emoji by KGIII · · Score: 1

      There's a huge difference between a country doing it to itself and a country invading another and committing atrocities up to and including medical experiments on life human beings. That you somehow think pointing to another country and claiming that they did something bad too is kind of unusual. I'm not actually sure what you're trying to prove. They pointed out that Japan has a rich cultural heritage and I pointed out that they do, indeed, have such a thing - albeit an immoral one. Hell, not even moral relativism helps this out.

      It was bad. Just bad. They've a huge history or such behavior but, usually, kept it to themselves. Then they kind of flipped a cookie in the early 1900s and decided to try that whole empire thing. Pointing to others and saying, "You did it too!" Is not a valid rebuttal, it's just silly and childish. Accept it and move on. You'll be okay - you probably weren't even there. They seem to have, mostly, cleaned up their society since then. The only disconcerting thing that remains (that I know of) is their continued fascination with ancestral worship of war criminals but that's mostly harmless. I'd not call that culturally rich, however.

      The height of culture must be anime and little girl panties out of a vending machine... Or preteen tentacle rape...

      Alright, so that last line's kind of trolling. It's Friday (well Saturday morning) so I do insist on a little leeway and not have completely salient points.

      If we wanted to get into the nitty gritty of every single culture on the planet, well, they're all probably lacking in some way. So, if you wanted to make a valid rebuttal that's how I'd have suggested you go about it. Hell, even my people have their faults and frailties. I'm Native American, from the Micmac tribe - mostly, and it seems my people hoarded a bunch of food and let a whole bunch of other natives die during some hard winters. We weren't really a warring people but evidence suggests that we could have shared our food and still been kept alive. Even my Irish and English heritage isn't without blight. I have a small amount of African in me, I don't know much about it, however. We can only trace ourselves back to around the Revolutionary War.

      So, I guess my point is, lighten up Francis. Japan does have some culturally rich aspects but they've also committed (as a country, largely dead now) some atrocities that resulted in tens of millions of deaths. Some of those deaths were, shall we say, quite unnecessary. I'm pragmatic enough to understand the desire to expand and create an empire. Things like the Rape of Nanking were wholly unnecessary, however. I mean, c'mon now... At least Hitler had the decency to try to hide it.

      Either way, pointing out things that a country has done to itself as a comparative to something done to them by a different country isn't really a good logical argument. I'm not sure what you were hoping to prove by that. Surely you had a point, right?

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    13. Re:Only morons use emoji by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      My point was that no matter what culture you name, we have it in the US. The cities are mixes of numerous cultures, Chinatown, the Italian district, the Irish quarter etc etc. Japan and Sweden, and even UK don't have the variety that any of the thousands of US cities has. This culture clash causes many of the issues the US has. Because of the culture clashes, any gang or mafia, or other criminal organization has a presence in the US, so we look violent mainly due to the numerous cultures.

      I was refuting this:

      The Japanese have far more culture than you'll ever have. "riffraff"? "low class"? Japan is a nation where there's virtually no petty crimes. Finland probably isn't much worse. America OTOH is full of crime and poverty by comparison.

      The US has far more culture than just about any other country, because we have all of the world's cultures, and all the world problems get imported here, so we have large amounts of violence (which can mostly be tied to a few cultures).

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  7. Official? Hah. by locoluis · · Score: 2

    They're not official until they get their own Unicode block.

    I applaud the idea as a jab against the many emoji that are specific to Japan that got through Unicode's standardization process (*cough*U+1F5FF*cough*). Because if Japan could do it, why Finland can't?

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    1. Re:Official? Hah. by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are emojis even characters? Or just graphics?

      Occasionally I'll know someone who wants to send me a text using their stupid custom emojis. It comes into my phone as blank, mostly because the whole fucking point it to make me download their shit, and probably track me.

      As far as I can tell, most emojis are just graphic files, and used in such a way that I am supposed to give a shit you wanted to send "champagne champagne monkey poop rhinoceros" like that's some form of language.

      Except for old school text-driven emojis, I generally find the prevalence of emojis is inversely proportional to my giving a damn about what is being said.

      Like that one lady in the office who always insists on changing the background and font of her emails so they all look like they were sent by a 12 year old.

      I see "official national emojis" and I want to shoot someone.

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      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    2. Re:Official? Hah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anything can be official. Unicode has nothing to do with it.

    3. Re:Official? Hah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Like that one lady in the office who always insists on changing the background and font of her emails so they all look like they were sent by a 12 year old _Girl_."
      Fixed that for you.

      Emoji were developed for, and popularized by, Japanese Tweens. It's all so "Kawaii".
      Why any sane Adult would want anything to do with them indicates a sort of sick fascination with Infantilism. These people probably collect "My Little Pony" figurines, and dress up as their favorite "Sailor Moon" characters. And yes, Women can be even worse here, but at least they fit better in the costumes.

      This kind of behavior isn't new. Eight decades back, all of America went nutso over a plain little girl who couldn't sing, dance, or act. Her name was Shirley Temple, and she was eventually made Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia.
      What did the Czechs ever do to America to deserve that?

      There is no comparable interest in comparable "Boy Culture" that approaches...

      "Ooooh! A new "Star Wars!"

      captcha: misfits

    4. Re:Official? Hah. by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Occasionally I'll know someone who wants to send me a text using their stupid custom emojis. It comes into my phone as blank, mostly because the whole fucking point it to make me download their shit, and probably track me.

      As far as I can tell, most emojis are just graphic files,

      They're just binary data strings, 16-bits per "character" instead of 7- or 8-bits like regular SMS text. Your phone (or rather, the SMS app) has to have the graphics which correspond to the Unicode emojis though (64k possible ones right now), otherwise they just show up as blank squares. Receiving them in a text doesn't make you download graphics files or track you.

    5. Re:Official? Hah. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Are emojis even characters? Or just graphics?

      What's the difference between a character and a graphic?

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    6. Re:Official? Hah. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      A character can typically be represented by a font, while graphics tend to allow multiple colors.

    7. Re:Official? Hah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      emoji that are specific to Japan that got through Unicode's standardization process (*cough*U+1F5FF*cough*)

      Uhh... The Moai statues are from Easter Island. Easter Island is off the coast of Chile, and is approximately 8400 miles (13,500 km) from Japan.

      Google Maps has your late-blooming education, right here. You can even right-click that pin mark at Easter Island and use the Measure Distance tool to find out exact distances to various parts of Japan.

    8. Re:Official? Hah. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I typed that in. WTF is that emoji supposed to be? I don't think it will work here but... Nope, preview says it doesn't work. WTF is that?

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    9. Re:Official? Hah. by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      I suspect that GP typoed U+1F5FE (SILHOUETTE OF JAPAN).

    10. Re:Official? Hah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      U+1F5FF is not a Moai, although it is sometimes depicted as such. It is supposed to be the Moyai (note the 'y'), which is a specific statue near Shibuya Station.

    11. Re:Official? Hah. by locoluis · · Score: 1

      Hahaha. I'm from Chile, of course I know about Moai. But let me tell you about U+1F5FF.

      $ grep --after-context=1 '^1F5FF' NamesList.txt
      1F5FF MOYAI
              * Japanese stone statue like Moai on Easter Island

      Specifically, it refers to the Statue of Moyai, a gift from the people of Niijima island, which is located at the south exit of Shibuya Station in Shinjuku, Tokyo.

      The fact that the character is often rendered as an Easter Island moai doesn't change the fact that the original emoji refers to a different, specific object.

      --
      --- Sueños del Sur - a webcomic about four young siblings
    12. Re:Official? Hah. by NoSalt · · Score: 0


      I thought that emoji was this.

    13. Re:Official? Hah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unicode's standardization process considers many factors, but chief among them is whether the characters considered are actually being used.

      Like emoji or not, they were in widespread common use in Japan. And not just that, every major phone operator basically rolled their own; there were lots of incompatible versions. Unicode was asked to help address this and provide a common standard.

      Remember, the point of Unicode is not to dictate what you can and can't encode. It is to facilitate encoding what you *need* to encode.

      That said Unicode's not including characters that aren't actually used (yet) for a reason, and Finland's emojis, assuming they're that serious a submission anyway, likely wouldn't qualify unless and until they had actually established themselves.

      That ALSO said, the Unicode Consortium has made it known (in the Emoji FAQ, IIRC) that they don't think that emoji are such a good idea, and that embedded graphics would be better handled by, well, embedding graphics. It's only because they don't want to dictate what people can and can't encode, and because these emoji characters were already in widespread use in Japan, that they added them anyway.

  8. For official communcations? by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    Another sign Idiocracy is the way we are going: the government feels using cutsy pictograms is an alternative to real sentences.

  9. Finland's strengths ... by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

    but I hope that they will tell the world not only about our special features but also something about our strengths

    Finland's strength is in abandoning modern human languages and reverting to a hieroglyphic method of communication similar to the ancient Egyptians. Their strength is also in eliminating the need for language or spelling classes in their educational system, thereby saving tons of money. 0xffe3 0xf329 0x3f87!

    1. Re:Finland's strengths ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Have you met any Finns?
      Their primary form of communication is to not.
      Their secondary form of communication is blunt.

    2. Re:Finland's strengths ... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Have you met any Finns?
      Their primary form of communication is to not.
      Their secondary form of communication is blunt.

      And their third form of communication is to drunkenly cry and hug and kiss you.

      I'm serious. I have Finnish friends. They drink a lot. Maybe it's because it starts to get dark there at like 10 in the morning. One of the ways you can tell Finns are approaching the point of alcohol poisoning is when they start crying and hugging and kissing you.

      Also, for some reason I have not been able to fathom, Finnish people are really crazy about Tango. That's right. tango. There is a long history of Finns singing and dancing tango. All these things make Finland one of my favorite European countries.

      https://youtu.be/fw-SmBBwELo

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    3. Re:Finland's strengths ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finnish might well be the toughest European languages, but don't you think comparing it to Hieroglyphs is too much of a hyperbole?

      Oh wait.....

  10. Coat of arms 'special' lion by Stavr0 · · Score: 2

    Is it going to have satwcomic's 'special' lion with a sword thru the forehead?

  11. Collection? by campuscodi · · Score: 1

    3 emojis does not a collection make young padawan!

    1. Re:Collection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the government plans to publish the full set in December"

      I'll care more in December when they have more than 3 of them...

      Why is this even a story yet?

  12. This is offensive by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    The emoji of the people in the sauna shows them as being naked. This is highly offensive to most religious people.

    In highly related news, the following articles were linked in the story from TFA:
    http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
    http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

    1. Re:This is offensive by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      The emoji of the people in the sauna shows them as being naked. This is highly offensive to most religious people.

      I don't think Finns really give a shit. If you're worried about seeing naked people then you probably shouldn't go to Finland.

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    2. Re:This is offensive by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Your sarcasm detector is broken. Did you not check the other links in my post there?

      As for your linked photo there, I sure hope that was taken in the summertime. It gets really cold in Finland.

    3. Re:This is offensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why there's the sauna to warm up after some snow swimming... naked.

  13. Re:Official? Hah.FTFY by zlives · · Score: 1

    and I want to "gun skull" someone.

  14. European tax dollars hard at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see government waste is hardly an american problem.

  15. "Holier than thou." by westlake · · Score: 1

    The western world has enjoyed adding a bit of color and play to simple text messaging by mixing words and pictures for centuries. Rebus

    The geek of course has his emoticons with their roots in the IRC chat and telegraphy. How to Type Emoticons ASCII art is as old as the typewriter.

    The geek's distaste for emoji is irrational. The use of pictographs to supplement and enrich terse messages sent over low bandwidth connections makes perfect sense, as does building a strong visual as well as verbal vocabulary.

    1. Re:"Holier than thou." by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      The western world has enjoyed adding a bit of color and play to simple text messaging by mixing words and pictures for centuries. Rebus

      /picture of University of Oregon mascot/ - 'ck' + /picture of people having sex/ - 'ck' + /picture of happy person/ - /5280 feet/

      Dufus.

      Which took less time to type and was easier for you to understand? Which used a standard 101 key keyboard versus a huge keyboard that takes an hour to find the right character?

      The geek's distaste for emoji is irrational. The use of pictographs to supplement and enrich terse messages sent over low bandwidth connections

      Why yes, sending an image instead of five or ten one byte characters is soo much more efficient. Or using a 3,000 element character set instead of 128.

      If you didn't get it at all: "duck" - ck = du. "fuck" - ck = fu. "smile" - "mile" = s. du-fu-s.

    2. Re:"Holier than thou." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's just unfamiliarity. I never even heard of emoji until Weird Al's "Word Crimes" came out.
      I've read the Wikipedia article, but I still don't get it. I don't know anyone who uses them,

    3. Re:"Holier than thou." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except it's spelled "doofus".

    4. Re:"Holier than thou." by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The distaste is rational. They are inefficient to use and inefficient to render an idea. Having an official list is amazingly irrational. If your ideas are correct then having an official list (like the unicode emojis) is highly counterproductive compared to just drawing your own pictograph.

      Sure, *some* pictographs are fine. The exclamation point and question mark are essentially symbols to represent something not easily rendered in words. A smiley face is a very simple clue to the writer's emotions (as in, don't take the meaning literally). However an emoji of a cat, a pile of poop, an animated winking face instead of ;-), and thousands upon thousands of others to choose from is ridiculous. The meaning is lost beyond that of "I spent 5 minutes trying to find a cute emoji".

  16. Coren22 proven a LYING "signature" boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    quote> "APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)

    Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    (Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)

    I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).

    I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.

    I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).

    Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk

  17. Coren22 "security guru" wannabe fails security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it

    &

    How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?

    ---

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!

    FACT:

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!

    ---

    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    * HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?

    ---

    Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!

    I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

    I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...

    You told me you learn from guides?

    I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...

    + WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    You did all that? No!

    (& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk

    1. Re:Coren22 "security guru" wannabe fails security by fisted · · Score: 1

      Yes yes, but where is the source code?

      --
      CLI paste? paste.pr0.tips!
  18. Windows Phone by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    I have a Nokia 635 so I'll be able to use these!

  19. Coren22's desperation, lies, & libel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!

    Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?

    Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    APK

    P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

  20. Coren22 "security guru" wannabe fails security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it

    &

    How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?

    ---

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!

    FACT:

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!

    ---

    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    * HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?

    ---

    Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!

    I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

    I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...

    You told me you learn from guides?

    I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...

    + WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    You did all that? No!

    (& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk

  21. Coren22 proven a LYING "signature boy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)

    Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    (Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)

    I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).

    I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.

    I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).

    Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk

  22. Not really new by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Egyptians had emojis like over 4000 years ago. The rest of us are just now catching up.

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
  23. Coren22's desperation, lies, & libel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!

    Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?

    Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    APK

    P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

  24. Fisted, how's it taste "eating your words"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Your source code is shit and you know it" - by fisted (2295862) on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @09:04PM (#50770245)

    See subject: Where's yours others here like & Malwarebytes folks host + recommend http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & have source to? LOL, it's not!

    I'm NOT obligated to give away MY work to be misused as Chrome's was-> http://it.slashdot.org/story/1... which you ADMIT I'm not http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    ---

    "I'm highly satisfied by the amount of butthurt I apparently caused you by simply asking for the source code to your malware" - by fisted (2295862) on Sunday October 25, 2015 @12:19PM (#50797625)

    Where's your 'summary' vs. ~60 antiviruses finding my ware safe from 3 diff. sources-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ?

    ---

    Opinions vary:

    ---

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted" - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    APK

    P.S.=> Stuck your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH & rammed yer words down yer throat w/ "the bitter taste of SELF-defeat"... apk

    1. Re:Fisted, how's it taste "eating your words"? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Well, since numerous sources have indicated that they think you are malware, perhaps you should release the source code to demonstrate your trustworthiness, unless you really do distribute malware, in which case, feel free to not publish the source code.

      http://www.spywaredb.com/remov...

      https://www.google.com/search?...

      Here are numerous experts marking a piece of your software as malware, prove them wrong.

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  25. and here is the entire collection: :-| by joss · · Score: 1

    Finns will understand

    --
    http://rareformnewmedia.com/
  26. Coren22 outnumbered 60++:1... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    See subject & this too:

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ... apk

  27. Coren22 proven a LYING "signature" punk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)

    Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    (Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)

    I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).

    I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.

    I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).

    Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk

  28. Coren22 "security guru" wannabe fails security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it

    &

    How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?

    ---

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!

    FACT:

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!

    ---

    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    * HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?

    ---

    Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!

    I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

    I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...

    You told me you learn from guides?

    I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...

    + WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    You did all that? No!

    (& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk

  29. Coren22 likes telling lies, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)

    Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    (Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)

    I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).

    I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.

    I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).

    Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk

  30. Coren22 likes telling lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)

    Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    (Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)

    I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).

    I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.

    I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).

    Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk

  31. Coren22 bitch slapped 65++:1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

  32. Coren22 "security guru" wannabe fails security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:

    "So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)

    Hypocrite - You admit using admin priv

    &

    How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?

    ---

    "Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)

    You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!

    FACT:

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!

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    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

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    * HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?

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    Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!

    I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

    I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...

    You told me you learn from guides?

    I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...

    + WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    You did all that? No!

    (& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk

  33. Coren22 gets crushed (& he ran) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Says it all & this link, dismantling him point-by-"so-called 'point'" of his publicly http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    * :)

    (Coren22, I tried to give you a chance, 3x no less - you're a fool: You mistake mercy for weakness, like cretin brutes in the streets do... you paid the price!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I notice you stopped responding there - "Gosh, golly gee - why's that?" (not) - but I expect you'll TRY some more b.s. as that's all "your kind" (trolls) understand - crap like downmodding my posts or ac troll me!

    (Which you & your sockpuppets OR fellow trolls have here already NOW TELLING OTHERS TO TROLL ME BY UNIDENTIFIABLE AC POSTS http://slashdot.org/comments.p... as I've torn you ALL up 1 by 1 every time as I have yourself above... you did this, to yourself "signature boy")... apk

  34. LMAO - Computer Associates & FRAUD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject - they're the source of that & they were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    They had to sell of their PC security suite too (full of shit fraud also) LOWERING THE 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO you shitweasel little bastard retarded mentally damaged inferior motherfucker piece of shit...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a piece of shit & I am going to DESTROY YOU you little weasel shitbag - Plus, & you'd best take this seriously asswipe - you had better HOPE I never meet you in person... I shit you not you little fucking damaged goods genetically inferior piece of waste... apk