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Before Barbie's Brainy Makeover, Mattel Execs Met With White House, Google

Posted by Soulskill on from the toys-are-serious-business dept.

theodp writes: Mattel came under fire last November over its portrayal of Computer Engineer Barbie as incompetent. But the toymaker is now drawing kudos for its new Imagine the Possibilities Barbie ad campaign (video), which shows little girls pretending to be professionals in real-life settings, including a college professor lecturing students about the brain. Ad Age, however, is cynical of the empowering spin on Barbie, which it says "comes across as a manipulative way to silence criticism." Interestingly, some of that criticism may have come from the White House.

WH Visitor Records show that Barbie's brainy makeover came after Mattel execs — Evelyn Mazzocco, Julia Pistor, Heather Lazarus — were summoned to the White House last April to meet with the White House Council on Women and Girls. A little Googling suggests other attendees at the sit-down included representatives of the nation's leading toy makers (Disney Consumer, Nickelodeon, Hasbro, American Girl), media giants (Disney Channels, Viacom, TIME, Scholastic, Univision, Participant Media, Cartoon Network, Netflix), retailers (Walmart, Target), educators, scientists, the U.S. Dept. of Education (including the Deputy Director of Michelle Obama's Reach Higher Initiative), philanthropists (Rockefeller, Harnisch Foundations) — and Google. Representing Google was CS Education in Media Program Manager Julie Ann Crommett, who has worked with Disney to shape programming to inspire girls to pursue CS in conjunction with the search giant's $50 million Made With Code initiative.

The April White House meeting appears to be a reschedule of a planned March meeting that was to have included other Mattel execs, including Stephanie Cota, Venetia Davie, and Lori Pantel, to whom the task of apologizing for Computer Engineer Barbie fell last November. For the first time in over a decade, Barbie was no longer the most popular girls' toy last holiday season, having lost her crown to Disney Princesses Elsa and Anna, who coincidentally teamed up with Google-backed Code.org last December to "teach President Obama to code" at a widely-publicized White House event.

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  1. cut the crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This has little to do with either "toys" or "Google".

    Can we please have a "SJW" category that because a dumping ground for this kind of crap, plus a way of keeping it out of my feed?

    1. Re:cut the crap by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      They keep posting it because it keeps getting a lot of comments and views. If you want it to stop, don't comment. Ignore it and hope others do likewise.

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    2. Re:cut the crap by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I second that. SJWs are annoying and may pose real danger, but they are not interesting at all, as they just rehash millennia-old arrogance, greed and stupidity.

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    3. Re:cut the crap by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You got so drunk on Friday that you didn't realize it was Saturday? Or was the game so fun that you just extended it to your Saturday Drinking Game, too?

      I'll help again... The things I do for people...

      SJW
      SJW
      SJW
      SJW
      SJW
      SJW

      There, a half-dozen should get you back up to normal. We can't have you running around on the internet with too much blood in your alcohol system.

      *sighs* I miss drinking.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    4. Re:cut the crap by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      You got so drunk on Friday that you didn't realize it was Saturday?

      It's gotta be Friday somewhere. I think.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    5. Re: cut the crap by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Falling back to being a grammar Nazi is just more of the same "sixth grade mentality". So are insults. Thinking you have the moral high ground doesn't mean you get to sling ad homs. It just makes you come off like a hypocrite.

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      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  2. Here is a great joke! by Nrrqshrr · · Score: 1

    philanthropists (Rockefeller,...)
    Hahahaha!

    1. Re:Here is a great joke! by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

      Yes... "'The nerve', of Mattel doing what we do with real people."

    2. Re:Here is a great joke! by soap_and_dish · · Score: 1

      I see where you're going with that, but that's how it is with almost all philanthropists. It's a way for bad people to spin a positive legacy, and Rockefeller was the most prominent example of that. There's nothing wrong with that statement.

      Or there wouldn't be, if the summary weren't talking about the Rockefeller Foundation, which is an NGO and not a philanthropist... So, in other words, everybody's wrong.

  3. Political correctness has no bounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Look, just stop.

    Just let little girls and boys play using their own wild imaginations and get out of their heads with all your political posturing.

    Nobody voted for your social meddling.

    1. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I can almost see the kids sitting there, watching the adults bicker back and forth until one of them gets up and says "'scuse me? When you're done playing with our toys, can we have them?"

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    2. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Dude, I'm as left as they come. And as far as I'm concerned I say round up the SJWs and make good use of those guns you like so much.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    3. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      SJW

      ...pours a shot. "Hey, slow down!"

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    4. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The consensus is the SJWs are exploiting people (of both sexes) who like to live in a PC echo chamber, and everyone who dares to call them on their warped, aggressive, exclusionary raving is a misogynist. They are getting what THEY want (attention, power, money), not advancing the cause of women. TERFs like Gloria Steinem are well and truly past their best before date. Time to move beyond the manipulative BS. As Justin Trudeau said, "Because it's 2015."

      We know that there are differences between the brains of the two sexes, so why should we expect equal outcomes when presented with equal opportunity to select from a variety of choices? As for coding, the barrier has never been lower. Anyone who has an interest can learn simple stuff on their own. Everyone has at least some contact with computers, and there are plenty of free ones just sitting in dumpsters that are far better than anything many of us learned on. If they don't have a net connection, they can always use the library, and *gasp* take out some books. Maybe download some tools onto a $5 USB key.

      Neither of my daughters has ever shown the slightest interest in programming, ever, even though they had ample opportunity. I used to think "that's unfortunate." Seeing what the industry has become, they made the right choice. Intelligence and creativity can be better employed elsewhere.

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    5. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      If you wanted your opinion to mean anything you'd have stayed a man. Shut the fuck up, tranny.

      I'll give you a +1 Funny :-)

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    6. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Let's see - another bible nut who criticizes another poster for making what you describe as A 'Flippant remark involving the violent execution of individuals," which clearly shows that even YOU can tell it's not to be taken seriously, you say " wish instead of oiling guns, people would read the Bible for once."

      I guess you never read the bible, because it's full of genocide and slavery under God's orders, extremely misogynistic, homophobic, and a whole bunch more barbarism.

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    7. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Read it. Now what? Personally I have to say Lord of the Rings has a better story. And much better character development. There's very little character development in the Bible, that God character is an ass in the beginning and it doesn't change a lot throughout the book. Plus, the way he's presented as some kind of omnipotent being that saves the day again and again really smacks of a Mary Sue.

      In total, not the best book I've read so far. Don't quite get its popularity. But then again, I didn't quite get Twilight either, so maybe I'm just not in touch with the reading habits of the young people.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    8. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      They can call me a bad person if they like to. It's just as much a label as any, and bluntly, the opinion of someone who changes labels every other minute because it's no longer "ok" to use the old one doesn't really matter to me anyway, so they can call me whatever they like.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    9. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Well why not, they gave you +1 fanny (British English meaning).

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    10. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Barbie has always had variations that are "less of a vapid dunce". The only thing new is a marketing campaign where Mattel starts to defend itself against the SJWs that would defame their product line.

      It's a doll. How the kid chooses to personify it is really up to them. If they have other positive role models, chances are that Barbie will be a girl that "takes care of business" and doesn't just whine.

      Same doll. New marketing.

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      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    11. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by KGIII · · Score: 1

      LOL I'll thread this here... (Hopefully this way you shan't miss it.)

      Someone thought I was trolling you in my other reply. They should probably look at our past conversations or, well, waste mod points. 'Tis fine with me. I do presume you'd tell me if you thought I were being a fucktard? Oh! It would be even more rich if they thought I were somehow bigoted against transgendered folks. Pfft... They obviously haven't seen my porn browsing history or read a not-insignificant number of my online comments.

      However, from now on - every time you say something insightful. It will be known as a "barbarism" in my head. Or if you go off on some poor unsuspecting anonymous coward, that too might be termed the same thing. Ah well... 'Tis an ungodly hour to be awake on a Sunday.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    12. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by hawk · · Score: 1

      We always made sure we had cars & trucks & shovels & such for our daughters. but they didn't get used much.

      One day we saw them playing with the garage & cars, and got closer.

      "This is the mama truck" said one.
      And her sister picked up another, and replied, "This is the baby truck"

      we gave up.

      hawk

    13. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Good question

      *thinks*

      It's not like the two are mutually exclusive, even for the same statement. Rants can be both, can't they?

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    14. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Maybe one should be a Barbaraism. ;-) I'll leave it up to you to decide which. But they certainly can be both and, often, are.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    15. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Saw it :-)

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    16. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      You are such a typical heteronormative cismale it hurts

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      The new right fascists are bilingual. They speak English and Bullshit.
    17. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You have NO idea how funny that "accusation" is. I can't wait to show this posting to a friend of mine tomorrow.

      Without going into detail, there is a good reason why I don't really care about labels anymore. You get used to them after a while. And few of the ones that were tacked onto me were flattering. At some point in time, you simply stop listening. Well, it's either that or give them the satisfaction of getting rid of you.

      Call me what you want. I know what I am.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    18. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      I am joking. That was a label someone assigned me and I just knew you would love it.

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      The new right fascists are bilingual. They speak English and Bullshit.
    19. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

      the SJWs

      DRINK MOTHERFUCKERS!

      That's an odd choice. Can't I just stick to drinking scotch? ;-)

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      I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
    20. Re:Political correctness has no bounds by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      But for the most part, SJW is an epithet applied by others to a situation. Then, they see eg. that Barbie is trying to be less of a vapid dunce.

      There's been pilot barbie, astronaut barbie and doctor barbie. Barbie was often portrayed as smart, confident and accomplished. I'm not too sure where the idea came from that barbie only ever provided a role model that reinforced gender roles, but one thing is clear - the extremists pushing this ideology have no clue about history.

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      I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
  4. Malibu Stacy says by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

    "Don't ask me, I'm just a girl"

    1. Re:Malibu Stacy says by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      "Let's make cookies for the boys"

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      My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
  5. There's Just No Pleasing Some People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ad Age, however, is cynical of the empowering spin on Barbie, which it says "comes across as a manipulative way to silence criticism." Interestingly, some of that criticism may have come from the White House.

    Truly there is just no pleasing some people. I mean, seriously, criticizing someone because you can no longer criticize them?

    "I want a pony, why aren't you giving me a pony, you guys are jerks."
    "Ok, here's a pony."
    "How dare you guys give me a pony, you guys are jerks."

    WTF?

    1. Re:There's Just No Pleasing Some People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's true of nearly all activists these days. People talk about "the 1%" but should really be concerning people is the new Outrage Class, the people who exist solely to be outraged. You're right, you can't appease an SJW, because they're literally unpleasable. Give in to every single one of their demands, and they'll just move the goal posts. I've watched it happen again and again. The most recent example is the SXSW debacle. SXSW should have just canceled the SJW panels and run. Trying to appease the SJWs just makes no one happy because they'll just move the goal posts of acceptable yet again and all SXSW will accomplish is pissing off their actual attendees. I've watched a conference do exactly that: add in more "diversity" and "women in tech" type panels, and now no one even talks about that conference any more, because no one bothers going to it. Not even the SJWs they were trying to appease, because they were never going to the show in the first place.

      Much like in this case, the people bitching about Barbie were never going to buy them anyway. So now Mattel has wasted who knows how much time and money and the SJW crowd is still acting all outraged because that's literally all they live for. Anyone could have seen this coming.

      All this will do is piss off their actual paying customers and fail to grow any new ones. Yet again. Every time.

    2. Re:There's Just No Pleasing Some People by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      SJW

      Fuck you I'm not drunk. Now give me my goddamn keys! *THUD*

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    3. Re:There's Just No Pleasing Some People by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Cut-and-paste of the above post by someone who is anonymous so that it will have a score of +2 instead of 0:

      That's true of nearly all activists these days. People talk about "the 1%" but should really be concerning people is the new Outrage Class, the people who exist solely to be outraged. You're right, you can't appease an SJW, because they're literally unpleasable. Give in to every single one of their demands, and they'll just move the goal posts. I've watched it happen again and again. The most recent example is the SXSW debacle. SXSW should have just canceled the SJW panels and run. Trying to appease the SJWs just makes no one happy because they'll just move the goal posts of acceptable yet again and all SXSW will accomplish is pissing off their actual attendees. I've watched a conference do exactly that: add in more "diversity" and "women in tech" type panels, and now no one even talks about that conference any more, because no one bothers going to it. Not even the SJWs they were trying to appease, because they were never going to the show in the first place.

      Much like in this case, the people bitching about Barbie were never going to buy them anyway. So now Mattel has wasted who knows how much time and money and the SJW crowd is still acting all outraged because that's literally all they live for. Anyone could have seen this coming.

      All this will do is piss off their actual paying customers and fail to grow any new ones. Yet again. Every time.

      SJWs and those who cater to them don't seem to understand the law of unintended consequences. Or of trying to meet the other side half-way.

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    4. Re:There's Just No Pleasing Some People by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Honest question, what do you have against the term SJW?

      Nothing. I love the term "SJW". It serves to identify the people who use it (though it really doesn't identify the people they are using it to describe). It's like the way Aldo "The Apache" Raine in the movie Inglorious Basterds would carve a swastika into the forehead of Nazis, because he "liked to be able to see my Nazis coming".

      I like to see my reactionary cucks coming. And by using the term, "SJW", men who had traumatic experiences during potty-training identify themselves and allow me to pay them no mind. See, "SJW" really doesn't have any meaning besides "people I don't like, but don't know how to disagree with". If you make a little reductive experiment, you'll see what I mean. Give me your best definition of "SJW" and it can be used to define a range of people so broad that it no longer has the meaning you intended. Try it yourself and you'll see what I mean, but you have to be willing to be rigorous in your self-evaluation. Can you do that?

      Plus it makes for a great weekend drinking game on Slashdot. Seriously.

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  6. Parents? by transfire · · Score: 1

    Wow. When did parents give up responsibility for raising there kids to toy manufactures?

    1. Re:Parents? by MacTO · · Score: 1

      Around the time toy manufacturers started making 1/2 hour long commercials that pretended to be child-friendly entertainment, and likely earlier. Never doubt the power of the marketing industry, particularly when their audience are children who aren't yet cynical about the ways of the world. Never doubt the power of children who beg for something until they get it, even if parents only try to make their child happy once a year with a gift under the Christmas tree.

    2. Re:Parents? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      But that is a very capitalist idea! Just outsource it!

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    3. Re:Parents? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      When did parents give up responsibility for raising *there* kids to toy *manufactures*?

      13.7 milliweeks after they stopped teaching them how to write.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  7. Re:News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Who gives a shit?

    You, apparently. A lot.

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  8. Girls just wanna have fun by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Funny

    When do we get Breaking Bad Barbie?

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:Girls just wanna have fun by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Never. No carpet to munch on, no vagina, she's frigid. If they really wanted to educate kids, they would introduce anatomically-correct Ken and Barbie so parents would actually have to explain gender, sex, stds, that the stork bringing the baby home was a lie, . But OH NOs! Then you'd have to talk about abortion, lesbians, gays, bis, trans-everything. Can't have that! Far better that kids end up having kids than tell them the facts of life.

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    2. Re:Girls just wanna have fun by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      If they really wanted to educate kids, they would introduce anatomically-correct Ken and Barbie...Then you'd have to talk about abortion, lesbians, gays, bis, trans-everything.

      Pretty sure you're thinking of the Mr & Ms. Potato Head, what with the interchangeable parts and all.

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    3. Re:Girls just wanna have fun by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      If they really wanted to educate kids, they would introduce anatomically-correct Ken and Barbie...Then you'd have to talk about abortion, lesbians, gays, bis, trans-everything.

      Pretty sure you're thinking of the Mr & Ms. Potato Head, what with the interchangeable parts and all.

      Nice!

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    4. Re:Girls just wanna have fun by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Mr (and Ms!) Potato Head even bring up as-yet unaddressed issues beyond transgenderism, like trans-limberism - for instance the desire to swap your arms and legs

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    5. Re:Girls just wanna have fun by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      I don't know. Trying to put those little bitty condoms on the Ken doll could get kinda tricky.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    6. Re:Girls just wanna have fun by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Ladies, gentlemen, and others may I present ... BarbaraBarbie.

      In business terms it makes total sense. Don't go for one sale, go for a recurring one. Aftermarket tits-n-bits, you know it makes sense.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  9. Re:News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    SJWs

    I think I'm gonna be...*THUD*

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  10. Computer Engineer Barbie? by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 3, Funny

    So they made a Barbie out of pure white ABS plastic, plump and hairy in all the wrong places, dressed it in torn jeans, sneakers, and a stained IEEE sweater, and dusted with synthetic Dorito cheese dust, accessorized with 27 computers and a coffee maker? And the box it comes in converts into Computer Engineer Barbie's parent's basement?

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    Vote for Bernie in 2016!

    1. Re:Computer Engineer Barbie? by excelsior_gr · · Score: 1

      That would be the Stallman edition.

    2. Re:Computer Engineer Barbie? by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      Complete with edible - yeah I'm not going there.

  11. Re:women coding by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    So would you say I'm better off investing in Star Wars figures or canned goods?

    On the one hand with canned goods I could stay out of the rating for food.

    On the other hand with the collapse of the dollar, it's pretty obvious Star Wars figures make for the perfect monetary replacement.

    Hey, it's no more silly than buying a bunch of Platinum.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  12. Almost forgot. by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I forgot to mention the best part of making Star Wars figures currency - they would be bound to be counterfeited, but the fakes could not possibly be produced at a lower level of quality - so it would mean some really well built Star Wars figures at last!

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  13. Re:Won't make a change by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    I've seen those guys. I knew one that was white as a piece of paper with long black hair frizzy hair he might get cut once every 12-18 weeks and changed clothes every three or four days. He worked 14-20 hours a day and it was all he cared about. He had absolutely no life other than writing software. He was the extreme case but there were dozens who were not a lot better. One woman came in for a job interview, looked around at the environment and her future co-workers and didn't stay for the interview. Just walked the hell out.

  14. White House Council on Women and Girls???? by unixisc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What exactly is that, and how did it start? Was it BJ's personal harem where he could pluck out the various women he hunted, like Monica?

    More seriously, WTF was the White House (read Obama) doing summoning Mattel execs about how they make their dolls? In the Middle East, there is ISIS run amuk, in the US, Obamacare is almost bust, and this White House has nothing better to do than micromanage the pastime of half the population? I know he's a lame duck, but if there are no hot issues that he really cares about (since he's exposed as a total loser in Foreign Policy, letting the Russians walk over him in not just Syria but Iraq as well), can't he just sit in the White House and plan his retirement, instead of telling toy companies how they should design their dolls?

    1. Re:White House Council on Women and Girls???? by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      What exactly is that, and how did it start? Was it BJ's personal harem where he could pluck out the various women he hunted, like Monica?

      More seriously, WTF was the White House (read Obama) doing summoning Mattel execs about how they make their dolls? In the Middle East, there is ISIS run amuk, in the US, Obamacare is almost bust, and this White House has nothing better to do than micromanage the pastime of half the population? I know he's a lame duck, but if there are no hot issues that he really cares about (since he's exposed as a total loser in Foreign Policy, letting the Russians walk over him in not just Syria but Iraq as well), can't he just sit in the White House and plan his retirement, instead of telling toy companies how they should design their dolls?

      It's to refocus attention on shit that doesn't matter instead of shit that he doesn't get done.

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  15. Re:News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    responsible people

    I must be drunker than I thought. For a minute there, I thought you said, "responsible people".

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  16. Re:Won't make a change by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    We are talking people here who dedicate 14 hours a day towards studies and work, and can take such self-destructive workloads better than women on account of biological/physical handicap over women.

    I don't know what you're talking about, at my university, there were women who took 21 credits of math classes in one semester. There aren't many men who could do that (of course, some can....the ability to work hard is unrelated to gender).

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  17. Why is Mattel's motivation important... by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    ...if it results in the right outcome? Of course, Mattel is in the business of making money. They responded to criticism. Isn't that what the critics wanted? What's so awful about that?

  18. Re:Won't make a change by jedidiah · · Score: 1

    The occasional rare Chinese mutant doesn't count. Such a creature is even less relevant to a feminist whiner than she is to her male counterparts in the department.

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  19. Re:Won't make a change by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    The occasional rare Chinese mutant doesn't count.

    You're racist and she was Canadian.

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  20. Re:Meh by r-diddly · · Score: 1

    Sadly that seemed to be the message of the original computer engineer Barbie book. Not exactly useless advice either, but that kind of bimbo doesn't have a shot with me - not only are there plenty of tits attached to smart women, I hate being manipulated and thanks to years of TV I can always tell when my magical penis powers are being invoked when they're not actually called-for.