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Paper Retracted After Anti-Immigrant Scientist Bans Use of His Software (sciencemag.org)

sciencehabit writes: An 11-year-old research paper describing Treefinder, a computer program used by evolutionary biologists, has been retracted after the program's developer banned its use in European countries he deemed too friendly to refugees. In September, German scientist Gangolf Jobb announced on his website that researchers in eight European countries, including Germany and the United Kingdom, were no longer allowed to use Treefinder, which builds phylogenetic trees from sequence data. The move sparked outrage among some scientists, and now, BMC Evolutionary Biology has pulled the 2004 paper describing the software because the license change 'breaches the journal's editorial policy on software availability.'

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  1. Anti-Immigrant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Anti-Muslim "refugee" != Anti-immigrant

  2. The immigration problem in question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:The immigration problem in question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a regular user on this site, I was about to post the same Youtube video anonymously too.

      Most of the first migrants to come to our country over the past few decades were the richest, bravest, and most intelligent. Now however, we're getting a flood of third worlders, and as a result, the crime rate is going up whilst the economy will go down. It's an invasion in slow motion.

      Sweden's got it worse than even us, as people can barely speak out over there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  3. Re:Easy to explain by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

    The real question here is who is being more immature, the researcher or the publisher.

    The researcher has decided to act like a childish asshole.

    The publisher has said "unfortunately, due to your stupid manifesto we can no longer carry this paper because it violates our policy".

    This guy is perfectly allowed to go all crazy and issue his manifesto of "you can't use my stuff". That doesn't mean that other entities are required to keep hosting his stuff.

    The publisher is following a policy, and the people who wrote the paper agree.

    This breaches the journalâ(TM)s editorial policy on software availability [2] which has been in effect since the time of publication. The other authors of the article, Arndt von Haeseler and Korbinian Strimmer, have no control over the licensing of the software and support the retraction of this article.

    So, really, the only one acting immature is the childish idiot who has decided he's taking his ball and going home, and making up random rules about who can use his software.

    But he can own that decision and the consequences.

    This isn't two wrongs making a right, this is an idiot living with the real world consequences of being an idiot.

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  4. as an evolutionary biologist.... by nimbius · · Score: 5, Informative

    Treefinder has been dead for about a decade. If youre still using im surprised you have enough data from it to continue a grant proposal, but i hope you'll consider other more functional applications like PHYLIP PAUP MEGA Phylo_win ARB or DAMBE
    hybridization or recombination events got you down? concaterpillar to the rescue. http://rogerlab.biochemistryan...
    distance matrix analyses on nucleotide or protein sequences? seriously, get a copy of ODIN. while i couldnt get funding for a beefier desktop, i DID get compute time on our university supercomputer and ODIN absolutely screams on linux.

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  5. Re:Not anti-immigrant by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is from the author's own website: You can judge for yourself whether he makes any sort of distinction between legal and illegal immigration.

    Starting from 1st October 2015, I do no longer permit the usage of my TREEFINDER software in the following EU countries: Germany, Austria, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain, Sweden, Denmark - the countries that together host most of the non-european immigrants. For all other countries, the old license agreement remains valid. USA has already been excluded from using Treefinder in February 2015. This is all in accordance with the license agreement stated in the TREEFINDER manual since the earliest versions, which reserves me the right to change the license agreement at any time. I can do this because Treefinder is my own property.

    The reason: I am no longer willing to support with my work the political system in Europe and Germany, of which the science system is part. There is no genuine democracy, and I disagree with almost all of the policies. In particular, I disagree with immigration policy. Immigration to my country harms me, it harms my family, it harms my people. Whoever invites or welcomes immigrants to Europe and Germany is my enemy. Immigration is the huge corporations' interest, not peoples' interest. I am not against helping refugees, but they would have to be kept strictly separated from us Europeans, for some limited time only until they return home, and not being integrated here as cheap workers and additional consumers. Immigration unnecessarily defers the collapse of capitalism, its final crisis. The earlier the system crashes, the more damage can be avoided. Possibly a civil war in Europe. Not to mention the loss of our European genetic and cultural heritage.

    The most egregious yet prevalent error in modern news reporting, is to conflate someone being against ILLEGAL immigration with someone being against LEGAL immigration.

    How can these immigrants be ILLEGAL when the countries named allow them entry? That seems like a giant flaw in your point.

    If you can't understand why someone who does not want people who are by definition criminals entering the country in large numbers, then heaven help you - because reality certainly will not and history just laughs at you.

    Are the majority of people in this wave criminals? Where in the world did you get that information other than your own bias? The UN seems to disagree with you.

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  6. Treefinder license changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.treefinder.de/
    Original License

    TREEFINDER version of March 2011 and all earlier versions are free of charge for scientific purposes. For commercial or military use or integration into such software please contact the author.

      You may distribute this software non-commercially, provided that neither this manual nor any other components of the software are changed.

      The software and its accompanying documentation are provided "as is", without guarantee of any kind. Gangolf Jobb does not warrant, guarantee, or make any representations regarding the use or the results of the software or documentation in terms of their correctness, reliability, currentness or otherwise. In no case will Gangolf Jobb be liable for any special, incidental, consequential, or other damages that may result from the use of this software.

      Title, ownership rights and intellectual property rights in and to the software belong to Gangolf Jobb. The software is protected by international copyright treaties.

      This license agreement is valid until the next software release. Afterwards, the license of the latest TREEFINDER version applies.

      Copyright (C) 1997-2011 by Gangolf Jobb. All rights reserved.

    License change and re-release in February 2015:

    Starting from 1st February 2015, I do no longer permit the usage of my TREEFINDER software in the USA. For all other countries, the old license agreement remains valid.

    This is in accordance with the license agreement stated in the TREEFINDER manual since the earliest versions, which reserves me the right to change the license agreement at any time.

    My reasons:

    (1) I want to protest against American imperialism, which I regard as the cause of most of all evil in the world: wars, tyranny, poverty, migration.

    (2) I want to protest against EU tyranny, which is mostly the result of US imperialism.

    (3) I want to demonstrate my sovereignty, something I would welcome to see much more often in science and politics.

    In particular, I dislike that the USA and the EU aggressively promote a way of life that conflicts with my own way of life. I dislike the flood of immigrants they caused to come here - come here to replace unprofitable Europeans like me.

    After so many years of hard work on TREEFINDER, I have still not been paid any reward.

    I want to stress that this license change is not against my colleagues in the USA, but against a small rich elite there that misuses the country's power to rule the world.

    The USA is our worst enemy. I have collected many links to background information, including some in English language, here.

    Updated Oct 2105:

    Starting from 1st October 2015, I do no longer permit the usage of my TREEFINDER software in the following EU countries: Germany, Austria, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain, Sweden, Denmark - the countries that together host most of the non-european immigrants.

  7. Re:The strings are his to attach by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thing is, in the EU (as in, throughout the EU), the antipathy is a lot higher, and for good reason: As a general guideline, unemployment is usually a touch higher than in the US, and job growth is a touch lower (though in some countries this difference is rather dramatic), leading to a lot of antagonism.

    Recently, it's grown primarily because of the actions and crimes committed by a number of these migrants, as well as the increased strain on the far-more-generous social welfare systems of these countries (which as a corollary, appears to be leading to even higher taxation).

    If you think the Germans are vicious about it, you should take a gander at Nebelspalter (a Swiss parody magazine) and look up the opinions there on the subject...

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  8. Re:Not anti-immigrant by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm saying that by forbidding use in countries that grant asylum, the author of this program is demonstrating a stance against even legal immigration.

  9. Re:The strings are his to attach by unimacs · · Score: 3, Informative

    You don't get cheap stuff by paying high wages.

    Yes you do- or can. It's all about efficiency and productivity though. Paying someone who produces 1000 units an hour an extra 10 dollars per hour comes out to just 1 cent difference on the per unit costs.Of course taxes add to it and it wouldn't be that simple because there would be an additional employment tax as well as social security and so on on top of that 10 dollars but you can get the point easily.

    It is a lot harder however when you are providing services of some sort or when the production is lower. At 100 units per hour, the cost difference would be roughly 10 cents per unit (not considering taxes and all). So if someone could pick your tomatoes at a rate of 100 packs an hour (lets say 2 tomatoes to a pack), paying them $20 an hour would have a cost associated with 20 cents on each pack of tomatoes purchased. Paying them a minimum wage of $7.25 per hour would be 13 some cents cheaper so it isn't a huge cost increase to pay them a little more.

    Where it hurts is when you can only service or produce 10 units per hour. An extra $10 dollar per hour would be $1 per unit. A typical waitress at one of these full service chain restaurants can likely handle 4 to 6 tables an hour depending on the number of people at each table. If every table leave $2 for a tip, they are earning $8 to $12 more per hour than their base salary. But as restaurants usually have it, they are not packed enough at all times of the day to enable this type of turnover so there will be several hours which the waitress/waiter would only service 1 or 2 units per hour and you would need a tip increased quite a bit to make up the difference.

    For a single tomato, 20 cents a tomato vs. 8 cents doesn't seem like a lot but to someone like a Sam's Club who buys millions of tomatoes it's a huge difference. And you have to remember that picking the tomato is just one step in the process of getting it to the produce counter. If you paid everyone along with way $20 an hour, the cost of a single tomato would be much larger than it is today. The other thing about tomatoes (and produce in general) is that there's a huge amount of loss between the time they are picked and the time they are bought. I used to work in a produce department while in college. We'd sometimes throw away entire cases as soon as they came off the truck. For the remaining cases, a certain percentage wasn't fit to sell, so they would get tossed in the process of filling the display. Then a couple of times a day at least, the ones on display would be gone through and the ones started to look bad would get pulled.

    It wouldn't surprise me at all that for every tomato sold, at least one is tossed and that money has to be recouped in the price of the tomatoes that actually get sold.

  10. Re:Seems counter-productive by hey! · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's no point in having an editorial policy if you don't enforce it. The policy says the journal only allows papers on freely available software; the author submitted the article under those conditions then reneged, so he loses.

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