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Google's New About Me Tool Is the Anti-Google+

An anonymous reader writes: Google has launched a new tool called About me that lets you see, edit, and remove the personal information that the company's services show to other users. Google confirmed to VentureBeat that the feature started rolling out to users this week. Google's various products and services (Gmail, Hangouts, Google Maps, Inbox, Google Play, YouTube, Google+, and so on) sometimes ask you to share certain personal information. These details are then shown to other users who interact with you or search for you. Until now, all of this was stored in Google+, assuming you created an account. But Google+ is no longer a requirement for Google's services, and so the company needs a new solution, and ideally one that isn't public by default.

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  1. With Apologies to Niels Bohr: by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The opposite of truth is falsehood. The opposite of an irrelevant Google service is another irrelevant Google service."

  2. delete delete delete... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    delete delete delete

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    Hmmm, leave that list.

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    save

    1. Re:delete delete delete... by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Not much for me to delete. Google still shows me graduating from Starfleet Academy in 2506. It gets my home address right, but thinks I'm a black female graduate student (I'm actually a 62 year old white guy).

      Yep, that's me!

    2. Re:delete delete delete... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      Hmm.. you know, it never occurred to me until I read your post why the Cybermen say that.

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  3. Main challenge to me by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you ever pissed off google by violating a rule or policy, they could (and did in some cases) disable the google+ account. Which had the effect of killing all your associated google devices.

    So the risk was too great to actually use google+ and associate it with my devices. I hate facebook, but if they ban me, I'm only banned from facebook. Google needs to firewall physical devices from any chance of ban problems due to offenses in other google services or it's not worth the risk of using them.

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    1. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, the Internet works just fine without Google.

    2. Re:Main challenge to me by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here's an example:
      Google+ Account suspended so now they can't use Youtube (really an unrelated service).

      https://productforums.google.c...

      The more services tied to your google+ account, the greater the risk of it being suspended.

      https://productforums.google.c...

      My Google Wallet account was suspended today. Google Support tells me that my account won't be reinstated, due to violations of terms of service. They won't tell me specifically what I violated, and refuse to acknowledge my questions. I've used GMAIL for over 10 years. 2004 I signed up for the BETA for my first Google account. Today I'm suspended. I don't even care about the Wallet honestly, I just care about the Play Store. I can no longer purchase applications from the Play Store. With Wallet suspended, how can I even use my Android device now? This is insane.

      http://tech.slashdot.org/story...
      From a Google VP.. while google+ suspensions only effect services requiring a google+ account, he goes on to say "Of course there are other Google-wide policies (e.g. egregious spamming, illegal activity, etc) that do apply to all Google products, and violations of these policies could in fact lead to a Google-wide suspension."

      That's a big 'etc."

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    3. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A fact which does nothing to undermine his valid point.

    4. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dude, the Internet works just fine without Google.

      Actually, it kind of doesn't.

      A very large amount of all the web pages on the internet now load pieces of themselves from google domains and don't work well or at all without those pieces. googleapis.com anybody? It's all over the fucking internet. Want to sign up for a site? Oh, that requires google's "recaptcha" service. You can't sign up without letting google know.

      Want to email them and complain? Well, that non-google-looking contact address is actually served by gmail.

      More than most people know, the internet can no longer be used normally without google. Try blocking everything from every google owned IP block, and using the internet. Some sites might work, sure, but many of the most popular ones won't. Most people would consider it "broken". We are handing not just all our personal info google, but de-facto control over the web as well.

    5. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Using Google devices

      that's where you fucked up. why would you pay money to carry a piece of spyware around in your pocket al day?

    6. Re:Main challenge to me by fulldecent · · Score: 1

      Visa chargeback for any app you paid for that no longer works

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    7. Re:Main challenge to me by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I just care about the Play Store. I can no longer purchase applications from the Play Store

      For me, this has been a really good reason not to buy any applications from Google Play. I set up a new throw-away account for each device to download the free apps that I can only find in Google Play, but most of what I run is now from F-Droid. I've donated to a few of those projects, because I know that their apps won't randomly stop working at the whim of a third party.

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    8. Re:Main challenge to me by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      As opposed to? Do you still use a flip phone?

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    9. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's their own fault. It's easy for a webmaster to use non-Google services if they want to.

    10. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what? The point stands; regardless of whose fault it is, the Internet doesn't really "work just fine" without Google. Not anymore.

    11. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This happened to me years ago. I never did learn what policy I violated, and it was impossible to get any support from Google at the time.

      I haven't touched a Google product since.

    12. Re: Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first facebook page was my legitimate, legal business. Nothing shady or questionable about it, and had several thousand likes, thanks to a lot of work my partner and I put into the page. One day they ban my page and to this day (several years later) I still have no idea why it was shut down. I will never again build a business page on Facebook.

    13. Re:Main challenge to me by jhjjhj · · Score: 1

      And how many use the 8.8.8.8 dns server?

    14. Re:Main challenge to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, like every other smart person

  4. Welp, this still uses Google+ by Sowelu · · Score: 4, Informative

    In step 3 (the advertising preferences thing), if you try to modify what it says your google profile is for advertising purposes, it asks you to create a google+ account for the privilege.

    1. Re:Welp, this still uses Google+ by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      The whole site is plagued with issues.

      For instance, as a non-Google Now user who was apparently opted-in to it at some point without my knowledge, when I get to step 3 in the Privacy Checkup, I get a rather unhelpful popup that simply says "error" when I click the "Turn these cards off" button, even after disabling all of my ad-blockers or anything else that might be preventing it from talking to one of their servers.

      If you go to "Manage Activity" for your YouTube history, it gives you a link to "Get Started", which takes you right back to the first page where you could click "Manage History".

      There doesn't appear to be any way to delete the profile image or birthdate associated with your account (which were apparently pulled from my contact card in Gmail back in ye olde days?). And I had to "remove" my phone number multiple times before it finally stopped showing up as being associated with any of their services.

      Unlike apparently all the rest of the settings, if you get into your Google+ settings, you need to switch between your Google+/YouTube channels to manage the settings for each channel individually, rather than being able to manage it across your account as a whole. There's no indication that this is the case, other than that if you happen to click on your profile pic in the top right, it'll show you all of the channels you manage, rather than just the accounts you have linked. In my case, it went from showing just my personal and work accounts to also showing a charitable organization YouTube channel I manage, my personal YouTube channel that got created automatically for me against my will when I had to sign up for G+ to manage the first YouTube channel, and my for-fun YouTube channel that I fool around with as a hobby on the side.

      It's a mess.

  5. "Sometimes ask" - hehe by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> Google's various products and services (Gmail, Hangouts, Google Maps, Inbox, Google Play, YouTube, Google+, and so on) sometimes ask you to share certain personal information.

    Google starts collecting everything it can about who you are and what you do in all its products and services unless you explicitly go down into the basement and yank seventeen different files from a bathroom with a sign that says "Beware of the Leopard."

    FTFY

    This whole "you need to spend an hour on our site hoping you've tweaked your privacy settings correctly, at least until we change everything again in three months" is BS. As the family tech guru, I've gone from teaching people how to use non-IE browsers to how to install the best possible Ad/Flash/tracking-blocking software I can find on all their personal computers and devices.

    1. Re:"Sometimes ask" - hehe by Fwipp · · Score: 2

      Did you check the site? I was able to review (and update) all my settings in about 5 minutes. Maybe you're complaining about facebook's privacy configuration?

    2. Re:"Sometimes ask" - hehe by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I'm with Fwipp there, did you actually visit the site?

      Mine shows my name, my birth date (hidden), my sex, and where I have lived previously (shared...who cares if they know I have lived in Albuquerque NM, it isn't like I was a star in Breaking Bad...).

      If someone is looking for my name, they are likely looking for me, as there aren't too many in the world with my name.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    3. Re:"Sometimes ask" - hehe by techno-vampire · · Score: 2

      As the family tech guru, I've gone from teaching people how to use non-IE browsers to how to install the best possible Ad/Flash/tracking-blocking software I can find on all their personal computers and devices.

      If they know that little about computers, the chances are that all they want is email and web surfing, and if that's true, you can easily set them up with Linux and cut your support time by 90%.

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    4. Re:"Sometimes ask" - hehe by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I figure that it's a trap. They're trying to get you to verify your identity. Sure, they'll remove it from the PUBLIC domain but that doesn't mean they'll be removing it from their data base.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    5. Re:"Sometimes ask" - hehe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does behave like a trap; I couldn't log in because they said it's some kind of suspicious activity (which I strongly doubt, since I've been mostly Google-free for a long time now). They asked me to enter my phone number, so they can send me a SMS with a login code. Welp, if it was an attacker, he could enter any phone, and Google will happily him send the code anyhow and let him log to my account.

      What it looks like to me is that they're phishing for my phone number instead (which I never gave them, because it's none of their business).

  6. Fuck this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yay! A new way to funnel data to the NSA! Thanks Google!

  7. Can't edit some things by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What good is a tool like that if you can't edit everything? I have a birthday listed, that is wrong - I can make it private but I can't fix it.

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    1. Re:Can't edit some things by Qzukk · · Score: 2

      Look at it this way: do you really want google to know your birthday?

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    2. Re:Can't edit some things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I try to edit gender/birthday/occupation, there is a gray (i) next to the birthday, and when you click it:

      Need to edit birthday?
      GO TO MY ACCOUNT

      Click there, it takes you to myaccount.google.com.

    3. Re:Can't edit some things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is an edit icon (pencil) to the right of the text "Gender, birthday, and more".
      Try that to edit your birthday.

    4. Re:Can't edit some things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe by wrong he meant right.

  8. i give it 18 months... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    until they cancel it and replace it with some other dumb crap an MBA or Indian dreamed up.

  9. Applications on other side of Internet by tepples · · Score: 2

    Unless you happen to live in an area whose best home ISP is Google Fiber, the Internet as a network works without Google. But one still needs an alternative to the applications on the other side of the network.

    Search: In my experience, Bing search was not nearly as effective. The last time I tried Bing It On, Google beat Bing on 3.5 out of the 5 queries, probably three Google wins, one Bing win, and one draw. So what search engine "works fine" in your opinion?

    Video sharing: What site other than YouTube for public sharing of videos works "just fine", especially if they're in categories that Vimeo chooses not to accept? Vimeo's guidelines ban use of video game footage, such as in a review of a game, and are unclear about what makes a production company "independent" or where "showcas[ing] your creative work" ends and "upload[ing] videos with a commercial intent" begins. Or are people instead supposed to lease a virtual private server and learn how to install something like MediaGoblin? In that case, how do you go about getting other sites to federate with you for automated recommendations?

    Sponsorship: Without AdSense, how should a small site go about attracting sponsors to pay its hosting bills?

    Federated login: When a website offers a choice between "Log in with Facebook" and "Log in with Google", which is less evil and which is more likely to do the right thing?

    Mobile operating system: Is Amazon's Fire OS substantially less evil than Android with Google Play?

    1. Re:Applications on other side of Internet by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Mobile operating system: Is Amazon's Fire OS substantially less evil than Android with Google Play?

      This isn't a very good comparison. Amazon's Fire OS is Android with no Play Store access. The better comparison would be to Apple, and it still makes your point as Apple is just as sleezy.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    2. Re: Applications on other side of Internet by Threni · · Score: 2

      It would be a strange choice indeed to go from Google to bing. I chose DuckDuckGo. Literally the only thing I miss is time related search (ie search for results in the last 48 hours).

    3. Re: Applications on other side of Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duckduckgo is not really a search engine, it aggregates from other search engines- mostly bing.

      Still, it is my second choice.

  10. Really takin' those chains off, eh? by pla · · Score: 1

    But Google+ is no longer a requirement for Google's services

    I've used Google's various services for a good many years, and have steadfastly refused to use Plus. So aside from the core Plus features themselves, exactly what "services" required signing up for Plus to use them?

    Now, if you say that I can get back the usable classic version of Google Maps instead of this worthless abomination they replaced it with... That alone might get me to finally sign up for Plus!

    1. Re:Really takin' those chains off, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to sign up to Plus to use Youtube. If you just watch content it's fine not to have it, but as soon as you want to upload a video they want your whole life story.

  11. If you care about privacy by ArylAkamov · · Score: 2

    If you care about privacy then why are you putting personal information on there to begin with?

    Sure it's a "requirement" last I checked but they've never said anything about my 5 different accounts all full of obviously fake shit.

    I find it so strange that when I was in school it was hammered into us from the moment we stepped into the computer lab to never use even the smallest details that could personally identify us. Our instructor even went around asking for our passwords regularly, if we gave it to her we were in for a 5 minute lecture on password security and had to change it.

    By the time I left we had personal email addresses made for us with our first, middle and last names that we were required to use if we wanted email access in school (Those who did use them had endless problems with their emails not being sent or locked out of their accounts if the email contained anything remotely vulgar or offensive, regardless of context).

    1. Re:If you care about privacy by zephvark · · Score: 1

      If you care about privacy then why are you putting personal information on there to begin with?

      If you care about privacy, why do you use the Internet or have a computer or phone? If you care about privacy, why don't you stay locked up at home? If you care about privacy, it is your right to live in a small closet.

      We had this right of not being on video 24/7. That can't stand, as much as we'd like. We'd still like to draw up a few guidelines.

    2. Re:If you care about privacy by pla · · Score: 1

      If you care about privacy, why do you use the Internet or have a computer or phone?

      Nice false dichotomy there. I hope Poe's Law applies here.

      The internet has a hell of a lot of really great things on it. Getting to 90% of those things doesn't require disclosing any personal information; getting to 90% of what remains only requires disclosing as much as I want to (for example, writing this post on Slashdot).

      Of the 1% remaining that truly requires knowing at least some IRL identifying information (basically just banking and shopping, and if not for Amazon I wouldn't even rate those as a whopping 1% combined), I still have the option of completely compartmentalizing what little information I choose to share with them - My use of my bank's online bill-pay has absolutely no connection to anything else I do on-line.

      Now, Amazon and Google et al might want to track me to the ends of the Earth, but I consider it a basic responsibility of all netizens to make that as hard as physically possible - Don't tolerate ads, no tracking bugs, no persistent cookies, use only proxied API calls (and even then only when NoScript breaks the page too badly) - the works.

      YMMV, but don't shit in my hand and call it a flower by acting like mere use of the internet requires sacrificing my privacy.

    3. Re:If you care about privacy by zephvark · · Score: 1

      I hope Cole's law applies here. It involves this cabbage, see...

      Your misplaced anger amuses me. "Come to the Dark Side, Luke!" ...thing is, it's not possible to avoid ubiquitous surveillance, that's part of what you should pick up out of the "ubiquitous" part. That's already done and is not going away. It's getting stronger by the minute. We would like to perhaps have some customs that say what is right. Those won't last, either, they'll be obsolete by the time you've tweeted them on your tw_t account, which the kids aren't even looking at, because they've fallen for some ridiculous Snapchat-flavored scam.

      Keep up, man. Although that's ridiculous advice, no one has time enough to keep up. That's why AI is such a hot topic right now.

  12. Any Bets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any bets on how long before someone finds out/admits this just hides it from public view but still retains not only the original data but also the fact that you wanted to hide it, and when you did it.

  13. YouTube still needs Google+ for commenting by jonwil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Despite Google saying otherwise, it is still impossible to comment on YouTube without first creating a Google+ account.

    1. Re:YouTube still needs Google+ for commenting by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

      My Gmail account was converted to a Google+ account 3 Weeks ago. I never asked, never agreed to anything, never clicked anything. Searched 3 days to find a way to quit Google+ their is no Quitting Google plus unless i quit my gmail account. Nothing Google says can be trusted anymore, they broke my trust and will never get it back. Honestly i am really close to cutting the Internet cord I'm Getting tired of internet companys or OS makers telling me what i have to do or allow on MY hardware so they can sell me shit.

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  14. Google+ no longer req for services?????? by citizenr · · Score: 1

    Tell that to YT comment box.

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  15. I'm doing something right by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    It's got my name wrong (an alias I used years ago setting up a junk email account), I graduated from MIT, work at Skynet, and my location is earth. In other words, 1 in 4 things they know about me is actually correct, although saying I'm on earth isn't much of a stretch.

  16. Except for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if course, Google themselves, who I want seeing anything about me the *least*. Thanks but no thanks.

  17. This isn't new by Tighe_L · · Score: 1

    I have been able to edit all this stuff all along. They just changed the look.

    1. Re: This isn't new by kqs · · Score: 1

      Shhh. All of the anti-Google "rebels" finally have a chance to shine; don't ruin if for the poor dears.