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Hour of Code 2015 Star Wars Tutorial: Spare the IF Statement, Spoil the Child?

theodp writes: Teaching U.S. K-12 kids their programming fundamentals in past Hours of Code were an IF-fy Bill Gates and a LOOP-y Mark Zuckerberg. Interestingly, the new signature tutorial — Star Wars: Building a Galaxy with Code — created by Lucasfilm and Code.org ("in a locked room with no windows") for this December's Hour of Code, eschews both IF statements and loops. The new learn-to-code tutorial instead elects to show students "events" after they've gone through the usual move-up-down-left-right drills. With the NY Times and National Center for Women & Information Technology recently warning against putting Star Wars in the CS classroom ("Attracting more female high school students to computer science classes might be as easy as tossing out the Star Wars posters," claimed an Aug. 29th NCWIT Facebook post), the theme of the new tutorial seems an odd choice for Code.org, whose stated mission includes "increasing [CS] participation by women." But if Star Wars is, as some suggest, more aimed at boys, perhaps Code.org has something up its sleeve for girls (a la last year's Disney Princesses) with another as yet unannounced signature tutorial that it teased would be "just as HUGE" as the Star Wars one. Any guesses on what that might be?

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  1. What kind of sexist.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Attracting more female high school students to computer science classes might be as easy as tossing out the Star Wars posters,"

    Excuse me, but by that warped sexist logic, just throw out the computers entirely! Replace them with stoves and dish racks!

    Literal WTF

    1. Re:What kind of sexist.... by Raseri · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm still amazed, and ashamed, that a gender pay gap even exists in 2015

      Good thing it doesn't. That myth was busted years ago. Why are you still believing in it? Do you also believe in Santa Claus?

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html
      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/
      http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579483752909957472
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/

      Stop parroting stupid shit just because you think it makes you look sensitive and enlightened. It doesn't. It just makes you look like an asshole with no critical thinking skills.

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    2. Re:What kind of sexist.... by Raseri · · Score: 2

      And just look at all the citations you provided to back up your claim. Good job. I bet your parents are proud that you didn't die when they dropped you on your head.

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    3. Re:What kind of sexist.... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Erm... Throwing a link to a text of Summers around disqualified you immediately

      Denigrating someone else's citations, while providing none of your own, is very bad form. You lose.

    4. Re:What kind of sexist.... by ljw1004 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Good thing [a gender pay gap] doesn't [exist]. That myth was busted years ago. Why are you still believing in it? Do you also believe in Santa Claus?
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/re...
      Stop parroting stupid shit just because you think it makes you look sensitive and enlightened. It doesn't. It just makes you look like an asshole with no critical thinking skills.

      I only read your Forbes link, not the others. But the Forbes article says that (1) a wage gap does exist, (2) it doesn't seem to be caused by on-the-job discrimination, and is instead caused by women being disproportionately employed in lower-paying roles.

  2. Holy links ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, 13 freakin' links ... like anybody reads the articles now.

    Is there an actual article in there somewhere?

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    1. Re:Holy links ... by grimmjeeper · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm still trying to figure out what the OP is trying to say. The summary is so disjointed it's nearly impossible to follow. Well, unless you have ADHD or.... LOOK! SQUIRREL!!!!.... hey, lets go ride bikes.

  3. For the Nth Time by s.petry · · Score: 2

    I realize that some social engineers want this done, and that certain agencies make money selling the fantasy (media). Teaching someone to code does not make them a programmer. No, it does not make them a better person. No, it does not make them responsible or moral. What it does do is try to flood the market with cheap labor, and make a zombie force that can't think very well for themselves.

    Just say "NO" to social engineers working for the ultra wealthy!

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    1. Re:For the Nth Time by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're also not teaching someone to code if you avoid conditional logic and loops. That was true if life as well, even before computers. "If (no cars coming) cross the road. or while (timer less than 45 minutes) leave cake in oven. or while (hungry) eat. Even case statements are handy constructs.

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  4. IF by bondsbw · · Score: 4, Funny

    if (!programLogic.Contains("if"))
    {
        _isTrivial = true;
    }

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  5. Star Wars and girls? by jdavidb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm married with three daughters, and all the women and girls in this house like Star Wars.

    1. Re:Star Wars and girls? by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm puzzled over this. When I was a 14 year old I fell madly in love with Star Wars. I wanted to be Princess Leia and I wanted to marry Han Solo. Cool stories don't need to be separated by arbitrary gender binaries.

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  6. Differences in Subject and Narrative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    2014: Promotional campaign using mass-media characters targeted at girls. Media narrative: is it acceptable to expose kids to commerically-owned media franchises in an educational context?

    2015: Promotional campaign using mass-media characters targeted at boys. Media narrative: is it acceptable to expose kids to educational content that might be oriented towards boys?

    Conclusion: Narratives regarding possible female exclusion trump allegations of corporate mass-media meddling. Useful information for CorpComm professionals.

  7. The Return of BASIC... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    I for one welcome our new GOTO overlords!

  8. More names by JoeyRox · · Score: 2

    DO Kiss your Privacy Goodbye WHILE Using Facebook
    IF Windows 10 THEN Microsoft uploads your personal information
    FOR Google App in List of Apps Let x = Another 10 million users bought and sold to highest bidder

  9. Sure why not by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    I mean teaching people to use highly abstract concepts like events before they have mastered basic control flow is certainly the path to their developing a greater understanding.

    STUPID!

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  10. Re:Oh no, events! by theodp · · Score: 2

    "Star Wars isn't for girls," are the NYT's, NCWIT's, and FORTUNE's words, not mine. :-)

  11. unannounced signature tutorial by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

    another as yet unannounced signature tutorial that it teased would be "just as HUGE" as the Star Wars one. Any guesses on what that might be?

    No idea what it could be.
    I'm never going to get this.
    I'll get this when hell's FROZEN over.

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  12. Isn't saying females aren't into Star Wars by operagost · · Score: 2

    Kind of sexist?

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  13. Bizarro world by aussersterne · · Score: 2

    Um, I would hypothesize that there is correlation between liking Sci-Fi and liking technology and coding that has nothing to do with gender.

    Gosh, why don't we focus on poetry instead of tools in shop class? BECAUSE IT'S SHOP CLASS.

    You might get a few unusual suspects to come to the first week of shop class if it's focused on cake-making, too. But eventually the tools will come out and at that point you'll still lose anyone that wasn't in it for the hardware and banging.

    Same thing goes for IT and STEM in general. It is what it is. Geeks like it. Geek women like it. They also like films and bits of pop culture that are full of technology and physics and stuff. Downplay that all you want, but at the end of the day, it is what it is. Hanging a bunch of photos of flowers and unicorns in programmer school is not going to keep the flower-and-unicorn set there once the homework begins.

    I read the Fortune article linked from the Facebook post and it's pretty flawed. It's based on simply asking teen girls if some art and flowers in the classroom would make them more likely to enroll in computer science classes. Of course they said yes. That has shit all to do with whether they'd actually do it, or whether they'd actually stay in computer science class once they got there. Clearly not. Anyone that is swayed to choose their courses by the presence of art and flowers in the classroom (or that concedes so easily to a survey like this one) is not likely IMO to stick around and become a computing professional through years of staring at a screen all day, or to hang tough through the related homework.

    Silly stuff.

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