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Mozilla Has 'No Plans' To Offer Firefox Without Pocket (venturebeat.com)

An anonymous reader writes: In June, Mozilla integrated Pocket into Firefox, garnering a mixed response from the browser's community. This week, VentureBeat stumbled upon a Bugzilla ticket (bug 1215694) to "move Pocket to a built-in add-on" and immediately reached out to the company. "There are currently no plans to offer a version of Firefox that doesn't include Pocket," said Dave Camp, Firefox's director of engineering.

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  1. Could you at least hint what "Pocket" is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thanks Dicedot. Please, you know, edit.

  2. Re: browser.pocket.enabled = false by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But that doesn't change the fact that the guys at Mozilla have lost it. Who is picking up the torch? Non-profit, open-source, privacy-aware fork. Please?

  3. /Oblg. No plans to use Firefox then by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sad to see once a web browser that once was a bastion of open source become yet-another-sell-out.

    1. Re:/Oblg. No plans to use Firefox then by shubus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course I would like to get rid of Pocket. 3rd party bookmarking? Yah, like that's all it does. More than likely Pocket is collecting your browser history and selling it to 3rd parties to target advertising your way. Indeed Firefox has lost it.

    2. Re:/Oblg. No plans to use Firefox then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People gave up on it because it had tons of problems and the developers at Mozilla are a bunch of clueless douchebags.

      Firefox is dead and there is zero reason to use it when there are many vastly superior choices.

    3. Re:/Oblg. No plans to use Firefox then by Cthefuture · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Honestly curious what the "superior" choice is?

      The spyware known as Chrome/Chromium? Internet Explorer? The unstable Opera? What is it, man? Please tell us what your awesome browser is so we can join you because frankly I'm out of ideas.

      --
      The ratio of people to cake is too big
  4. Please forgive my ignorance, by Yxven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but why does Pocket matter?

    When they first introduced it, I right clicked it and removed it from my toolbar. I haven't thought of it since, yet there are people threatening to boycott Firefox over it.

    I've never about:config disabled it. Is it selling my privacy? Doubling firefox's memory usage? Supporting terrorism?

    Why is it news worthy?

    1. Re:Please forgive my ignorance, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pocket matters because it's THE symbol of Mozilla ignoring its strengths and leveraging its weakness.
      What strengths Mozilla/Firefox have (or is perceived to have)? Promotion of open standards instead of proprietary solutions; care for users' privacy; powerful addon infrastructure that allows me to run niche functionality like Pocket if I like it.
      And what did they do? They built in a proprietary solution that has unnecessary privacy considerations that is NOT an addon.

      It's not about technology, it's about doing the exact wrong thing.

  5. Re:I hate social media by Cito · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hehe,

    Yea, I was thinking up some humorous opposite to social media. Every website is now tied into Facebook and Google plus with share and plus and thumbs up icons, that track users every move online. And the use of tracking cookies so once you ever return to site they get a history where you went.

    Social media is the culprit that allows spying like NSA does, how folks get doxxed, etc. It's my opinion websites should have never fell for the trap adding Google analytics code, Stay counter, Facebook, Google plus, double click, twitter, etc

    Since every single site is connected back to Facebook, Plus, Twitter

    You don't need to get access to other site's logs, you got all the federal, tracking cookies, every single site a user has surfed daily can be logged.

    So my satire on the antisocial media. I wish these sites would all unlink from social sites. Remove Facebook, analytics, stay counter and double click tracking which all are even here on Slashdot.

    I already use adblock with 5 blocklists for various things from tracker blocklists , ad lists, social media blocking, anti adblock blocks, then noscript, then greasemonkey plugin script running 'antiAdblock killer'

    Just to get a look at content like we had in 90s.

    I see the web like a newspaper if I want to cut out an article and toss rest in trash, or pull the comics out and toss rest in trash I can.

    Web site owners want the freedom to do what they want on their sites, which is fine, but they scream and cry and don't want users to have freedom to use the web how the user wants. To those site owners that's why I say "fuck off"

    And my idea for Antisocial Media Web 3.0 :-P

  6. Re:No problem. by nmb3000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every time Mozilla releases an update, I have to search through the config settings for new ".enabled" things to disable.

    Don't forget the part where you hope to hell they haven't removed even more "about:config" settings you rely on since "nobody uses the feature we intentionally hid behind an obscure configuration setting (surprise!)".

    --
    "What do you despise? By this are you truly known." --Princess Irulan, Manual of Muad'Dib
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  7. Re: browser.pocket.enabled = false by rduke15 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These Windows vs Linux (vs Mac) are so ridiculously "last century".

    Yes, Linux is terribly buggy and limited as a Desktop system. But it has been extremely stable and generally a pleasure to work with as a server system.
    Macs are great desktop systems with the advantage of also having a real shell, and generally having Unix under the hood.
    Windows is the most stable desktop system I know (as long as it is not infected by malware), and has the greatest choice of high quality software in almost all categories. But I would certainly hate it if I needed to use it as a server.

    As it is, I use all 3 daily, and usually have a couple of ssh and/or VNC windows to other systems open. Just use the right tool for the job. This juvenile OS war is so passé...