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Microsoft Rolls Out Major Fall Update To Windows 10 (windows10update.com)
Ammalgam writes: Microsoft has rolled out a major update to Windows 10 called the Fall Update, November Update or Threshold 2. The update is now publicly available for everyone to download. Microsoft has confirmed it will be a staggered release. This update is full of fixes and refinements to Windows 10 including substantial changes to Edge, Cortana, icons, the Start Menu, Activation and multiple enterprise features. Here is a full list of changes. Have you updated your Windows 10 install yet? What was your experience?
I may need glasses, or see someone who can help with Freudian slips.
I used the Media Creation Tool to get it right away. Download the tool, run it and select Upgrade Now. Went flawlessly on our two laptops. The upgrade did change our default PDF reader back to Edge, which I changed back to Foxit Reader. The options to add color to the title bar is off by default. You can click on Personalization and then Color to change the setting. White title bars suck. Mail client, which is improved, is now called Outlook when it's opened. That seems like an odd choice since Outlook is a full fledged desktop app. Never doubt the capability of Microsoft to confuse. The Media Creation Tool download link is: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink...
Hey Microsoft, I do not want it. Quit forcing it on me. I have recommended updates enabled because they contain fixes for windows usually that aren't security related.
If you don't want it ever prompting you, download and run gwx control panel. Great program that completely removes windows 10 from ever being installed, removes the download of it if it is there, and even stops prompting you to install it.
http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html
This is what MS should have provided in the first place.
Windows 10 requires SecureBoot, so you can't dual-boot Linux Mint with it.
Since Microsoft made me choose between them, I updated to Linux.
It does not require SecureBoot. Windows 10 is enough of a failure all on its own without the need to spread FUD.
** Posting anon so as to not undo moderation
Staggering update. Just staggering. I saw so m... wait, I'm still on Windows 7. Never mind.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
The season is called autumn.
I take it you not only haven't used, but haven't even *seen* Win10?
If your computer has an attached keyboard and you don't go well out of your way to do so, you will never see "Metro" in Win10. No full-screen Start, everything runs in a window, no Charms bar, no App Bar, etc. Windows Store apps (including the Store itself) now run in windows on the desktop. Title bars are visible at all times and can be dragged, edges can be dragged to resize, apps can be snapped with desktop apps, and so on.
Now, if your computer is a tablet without an attached keyboard, then yes, the OS will default to "tablet mode" with the full-screen apps and so on. You can tell it not to do so, though; it's a simple setting (Settings -> System -> Tablet Mode). You can change the current mode, the default mode, and whether it automatically switches depending on the hardware configuration.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
Same here. The really annoying part came after logging in and being greeted with what looked like a full screen ad to tell you the system had been updated, but was actually the installer continuing to run (which meant no end of hitting Escape, Space, Ctrl-Alt-Del, and so on until after two or three minutes it finally admitted the installer was still running.
Thus far, on my test laptop, I can't really comment. Things look mostly the same, some minor style changes aside. CPU usage seems dramatically lower (it was pretty much permanently 99% previously on this old X-series Thinkpad with just Mail and Firefox open, now it's generally under 20%, but until I've used it for a few days I really don't want to assume this means they've fixed those problems.)
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
... in a tacit admission that it is time to stop feeding the trolls.
Like that would ever happen.
I would argue that telemetry is the only way to get objective, meaningful, data about how well an operating system succeeds or fails in meeting the needs of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions, of non-technical end-users.
My experience is that I let Windows install some updates and it took an hour and a half (on a modern SSD-backed system)... and it changed all my file type assignments. Every single file type that is supported by a Microsoft program was replaced with the Microsoft program. HTML files were changed from Chrome to Edge, TXT files changed from Notepad++ to notepad.exe, PDF files changed from Acrobat to Edge, all image files changed from Photoshop to Windows Photo Viewer, and so on. I was not amused.
Note that Disable Telemetry, at least on the non-business editions, doesn't actually disable telemetry, just some of it. To actually get rid of it all, open Task Scheduler, go to Microsoft > Windows > Application Experience and delete the AITAgent, Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser (that's for Win7/Win8), and ProgramDataUpdater tasks, and then in Customer Experience Improvement Program, delete all entries. That seems to take care of things at the moment but then keep an eye out for further spyware that'll be added in future critical Windows updates.
There's also a list of several dozen phone-home domains you can block at your router floating around, but that only helps if you're sitting behind your own router that you've set up for blocking.
> I would argue that telemetry is the only way to get objective, meaningful, data about
Don't care. My computer, my rules.
The problem isn't that they have telemetry. Honestly, the problem isn't even that it's on by default.
The problem is that you can't turn it off. That's massive and ludicrous.
You did not get modded down by shills. Shills rarely have accounts and very rarely have mod points.
Your post was incorrect. You stated that "Windows 10 requires SecureBoot, so you can't dual-boot Linux Mint with it."
Windows 10 requires SecureBoot. SecureBoot pre Windows 10, as part of the spec, required that you be able to disable it in the BIOS.
The latest update removes this requirement.
This is terrible news- but it does not mean that "you can't dual-boot Linux Mint". What it means is, any BIOS that offers SecureBoot- either the type you can set to "off" or the new type that pretty much literally just boots Windows- will be required.
If you buy a motherboard with SecureBoot, you can check to see whether it will allow it to be turned off or not, and not purchase it. This means you can still dual boot to Mint.
Now, obviously, this is a terrible policy on Microsoft's part, and it creates incentives for Microsoft to favor in some way manufacturers that make BIOSes that don't boot Linux. This is a worthy cause to rant about, and Microsoft is clearly trying to close ground with Oracle for Most Evilist Fuckers In Tech.
But your post was modded down because it made an incorrect assertion- that Windows 10 can't dual boot with Linux. It can.
And check my post history if you think I'm a shill. If I am, wow am I playing the long con.
I would agree with you. And a large percentage of user would agree to provide telemetry if it were really opt-in and they were sure that the data were properly anonymized. (i.e. it could be audited by an ordinary person) However, *force* telemetry is quite another issue. The very fact that it is forced implies that there isn't a benefit to the user (otherwise why not explain the benefit and make it optional) and so the negative knee-jerk reaction to want to disable it is the correct one. When tools (like Eclipse) ask for telemetry, I usually agree because I want the tools to improve. When telemetry is forced, I do my best to opt-out as there is good reason to believe that the purpose is nefarious.