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Google's Chromebit Micro-Computer Launches (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Back in March, Google announced the Chromebit, a small computer crammed into an HDMI stick that runs Chrome OS. The device, built by Asus, has now launched for $85. It weighs 75 grams, runs on a Rockchip ARM processor, and includes a USB port. It has 16GB of storage and 2GB of RAM, and connects via 802.11ac Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0. According to Tech Crunch, the Chromebit is not particularly fast, but it's usable for basic tasks. "As long as the work only involves web apps (or maybe a remote connection to a more fully-featured machine), the Chromebit is up for the job and can turn any screen into a usable desktop."

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  1. HDMI really needs the ability to source power... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    They crammed nearly everything else into that connector, why not a power source?

  2. Not tempted by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 0

    No keyboard, no mouse, no screen ... cheaper to just buy a laptop, or even a full Chromebook.

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    1. Re:Not tempted by bfpierce · · Score: 1

      What're you buying for a screen, a 52" Plasma TV?

    2. Re:Not tempted by parallel_prankster · · Score: 2

      But sometimes you dont need a laptop. I was thinking about using this instead of Chromecast and being able to access all my google play + amazon prime movies at the same place. My friend owns a store and he was thinking of using it as a transaction service station.

    3. Re:Not tempted by rsborg · · Score: 1

      No keyboard, no mouse, no screen ... cheaper to just buy a laptop, or even a full Chromebook.

      Except if you already own these - especially in plentiful supply. If your chromebook/laptop keyboard breaks, you just replace it with another cheap one, right? Oh wait, you have to replace/fix the entire unit.

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    4. Re:Not tempted by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You can buy a chromebook for $159.99. That includes a screen, touchpad, keyboard, wifi, and power supply (battery) that doubles as a UPS, bluetooth, 2 usb ports, hdmi port, audio in/out, takes micro sd cards for extra storage, webcam. In terms of both value for money and usability, the chromebit fails.

      Have fun using the chromebit stick at school, work, or someone else's house - it's not like many people are going to want you to fiddle with their TVs or have monitors just sitting around ready for you to plug in (nobody's going to go into the garage to dig out that old lcd or tube screen for you unless you agree to take it with you when you leave).

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    5. Re:Not tempted by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      No different than having to replace the entire unit if you break your chromebit (or more likely use it if you're carrying it around from place to place), so what's your point?

      Just buy a cheap tablet - you get all that the chromebit offers, plus a touch screen and portability, for $50 bucks.

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  3. Re:HDMI really needs the ability to source power.. by sexconker · · Score: 2

    The HDMI automotive spec includes power.
    For regular HDMI, I wonder if you could jam some extra electrons through it via power over ethernet. Find the dumbest device that pipes ethernet through HDMI and the dumbest device that does PoE and slap em together.

  4. Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by bradgoodman · · Score: 2

    I bought my daughter a decent Chromebook (new) for $150. For $85 (as this thing is) - add the cost of of a keyboard and mouse - and you're close to that. I don't think this is going to fly too heavily for $85.

    1. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recommend one of these guys: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Built-In-Multi-Touch/dp/B005DKZTMG

      Keyboard/trackpad in one, and the little RF nub won't add much bulk to the Chromebit at all. As far as a screen goes, its not really meant to have a dedicated screen... plug it into your TV at home, or someone's monitor at work, or the TV in your hotel room.. the whole point is that it DOESN'T have a built in screen.

    2. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I can't stick my Chromebook behind my TV as easily.

    3. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by bfpierce · · Score: 1

      I feel like the draw here is that you can just put this thing into a port rather than have a notebook hanging around the entertainment center. Same setup, just less bulk and cables floating around, portability if you're traveling. It's niche, but I don't think they have any illusions about that at all.

    4. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Informative

      This isn't for a replacement to a Chromebook. This is to run Chrome Apps on your 60" TV

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    5. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Amazon Fire Stick might make more sense. There are apparently web browsers for it and mouse/keyboard support can be enabled (it has bluetooth). It might make sense for web browsing. (I've thought about picking one up for secure bank login, but I'm still researching it.)

    6. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't for a replacement to a Chromebook. This is to run Chrome Apps on your 60" TV

      Exactly - It could potentially replace your appletv or roku as well. It might not be for everyone but I can see it becoming pretty prevalent in a few years.

    7. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am wondering if it can run XBMC. If so that would make it useful as you could control it with an Android phone.

    8. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by jaklode · · Score: 1

      Isn't it basically a netflix client with a browser around it? ;)

    9. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by bananaquackmoo · · Score: 2

      Chrome OS is just linux, so yes it can run XBMC. The issue is, can it run it quickly enough to decode high resolution video properly?

    10. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by J053 · · Score: 1

      I recommend this: http://www.jide.com/en/mini - it's an Android device with HDMI out, 2X USB, Ethernet, WiFi and Bluetooth. Works great as a device for Amazon Video/HBO/Hulu (Netflix is broken, but a patch is due within the next week or two). It has a local filesystem, and all the Android apps are available for it.

    11. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, including hardware H.265 (not just H.264) decoding, all the way up to 4K resolutions and full HDMI 2.0 (so yes, 4K@60) support, and even supporting 30-bit "deep color" mode just for gits and shiggles:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip_RK3288

      Honestly I'm considering grabbing one as a video-player for one of the Seiki 4K's I picked up back when they were $250, as this looks to be an ideal pair for a 'dumb 4K' TV to give it useful 'smart' features.

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    12. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I am wondering if it can run XBMC. If so that would make it useful as you could control it with an Android phone.

      It can (it's called Kodi now, BTW) but so can a $35 Amazon Fire TV. The fact is that for only half again more money you can get an Intel Compute Stick...

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    13. Re:Price/Keyboard vs Chromebook by youngone · · Score: 1
      That's what I was thinking, I'd plug one into my telly, install ServiiGo, and use it to watch the stuff on my media server.

      At least I would if it wasn't so expensive. I've got a Raspberry Pi that can do all that for less than half the price.

  5. Re:HDMI really needs the ability to source power.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q. If an HDMI accessory device (i.e. switch box, cable booster) does not have a dedicated power supply, is it still compliant and will it work?

    An HDMI device that has active electronics should have a provision for external power in order to be compliant (e.g. a receptacle to allow the use of a standard power adapter, sometimes called a power “brick”). Here we are drawing a distinction between “active” devices that actually have some powered electronics, and “passive” devices, such as some switches (more on those later).

    Some active devices, such as actively powered HDMI cables or in-line signal extender boxes, will by default attempt to power their electronics by taking power from the 5V line (+5V power) available on the HDMI connector. The HDMI specification requires all source devices to provide at least 55mA (milliamps) on the 5V line for the purpose of reading the EDID of a display. While 55mA is not enough current to operate most HDMI accessory devices (which typically require about 100 to 150mA), most source devices on the market today provide significantly more current on the 5V line than the HDMI specification requires. As a result, the vast majority of accessory devices can operate when interfaced with a source device that provides more than the required current (i.e. over 100-150mA) on the 5V line. However, manufacturers should provide a provision for their powered HDMI accessory devices to obtain external power, and consumers are encouraged to look for this external power provision when purchasing such products.

    Looking to the future, not all HDMI devices may provide this much power over the 5V line. For example, as HDMI expands into more and more portable applications (cameras, camcorders, laptops, etc.), power consumption is often much more of an issue, and such devices may not power the 5V line with the > 100mA required by such “active” devices. Again, consumers should consider ensuring that their active HDMI accessory device purchases have a provision for external power for this reason.

  6. Re:Not tempted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is great for TSA-regulated travel.
    Fits in a coat pocket, a camera bag,
    No keyboard, no mouse, no screen, no laptop bag, no etc. to indicate that you have a computer with you.
    Plus, with web apps and storage, your files are hidden away from TSA-eyes.
    If they steal it from you, you can easily get another one and not hand anything over to the TSA/NSA/FBI/IRS/CIA/ATF/DoJ/ETC/

    Sometimes it is a good idea to pause and think before speaking.

  7. Re:HDMI really needs the ability to source power.. by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
    OK, HDMI should be able to provide enough power, similar to what USB can provide.

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    Having to plug in a USB cable just to provide power is foolish.

  8. Re:Not tempted? by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

    If you don't have a mouse or keyboard, how do you plan on using it when you get to your destination? Are you going to buy new ones every time you travel somewhere?

    Also, with web apps and storage, they don't need your hardware to get to your data.....they just need a warrant provided to Google (or whatever provider you use). Hopefully you meant something else (like a VPN or Tor or whatever).

  9. Not worth it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not when you can get something like the Kangaroo for $15 more:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/...

    Has an Intel cpu, 2gb memory, 32gb built in storage and comes with Windows 10 (home) but can run Linux also.

  10. Slashdot: New product advertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder how much Google paid them to post this?

  11. VGA support? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    There about eleventy-billion VGA displays sitting in closets, storage rooms etc. Our office still uses VGA for everything despite the displays supporting HDMI. A female HDMI to female VGA adapter is about $6 in bulk. Skylake finally dropped support for analog VGA but I suspect these 32 bit stick computers still do VGA out over HDMI. You could really provide some serious value to users with old "garbage" 17" VGA flatscreens that you would otherwise have to pay to get taken away.

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  12. In French argot, "bit" is slang for... by rsborg · · Score: 1

    male genitalia.

    Wonder if there's going to be a chatroulette for Chromebit ?

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    1. Re:In French argot, "bit" is slang for... by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      I've seen it spelled bite, or bitte... though it's slang so that may have actually changed.

  13. Re:Not tempted? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sometimes it is a good idea to pause and think before speaking.

    <pause>... narf!

    Nope, didn't help. At all.

  14. Install Windows 10 for an $85 game console! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine playing Halo in HD on Windows 10 for only $85!

  15. Sad it's missing.... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    The ability to add a USB webcam and USB Microphone. This device would be the PERFECT way to get Google Hangouts into the corperate world of small "Huddle" type meeting rooms.

    Why is it that Apple and Google never ever thinks of the corporate and company uses for their products?

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    1. Re:Sad it's missing.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ability to add a USB webcam and USB Microphone. This device would be the PERFECT way to get Google Hangouts into the corperate world of small "Huddle" type meeting rooms.

      Why is it that Apple and Google never ever thinks of the corporate and company uses for their products?

      Mostly because corporations can afford a real capable machine that has security and other features...

    2. Re:Sad it's missing.... by swillden · · Score: 2

      The ability to add a USB webcam and USB Microphone. This device would be the PERFECT way to get Google Hangouts into the corperate world of small "Huddle" type meeting rooms.

      Perfect? I doubt it. It's kind of low-powered for that application. You can add the webcam and microphone, but I doubt the result would be particularly outstanding.

      Why is it that Apple and Google never ever thinks of the corporate and company uses for their products?

      You mean like Chromebox for Meetings? I have this setup in my home office. Audio and video quality is excellent, automatic integration with Google calendaring is slick, it's very nice. The background photos when not in use are a nice bonus. If you take a look at the photo I linked, you'll notice the on-screen keyboard. That's there only because I popped it up to hide some meeting names; I hardly ever use it. Mostly I just schedule meetings on my calendar and the Hangouts display notifies me when one is coming and I tap the meeting description to join. I can also type meeting names if they're not on my calendar, or I can make phone calls. On the rare occasion I do an audio-only teleconference, I still use the Chromebox system because it's convenient and very high quality.

      It could be done with a Chromebit rather than a Chromebox, but it wouldn't be much cheaper ($85 vs $229; not a substantial difference in the corporate world), and I doubt performance would be as good.

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    3. Re:Sad it's missing.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even just a USB hub with it would have been great. It would have massively opened this up.

      As it is now, at best, it would make a decent-ish backup computer in emergencies.
      But if you are in that situation, you have worse things to think about. Most people these days that would even consider it likely already have things like phones and/or tablets anyway.

      This seems like it doesn't particularly fit in to any market. The idea is sound, but they gimped the specs so hard they made it pretty worthless.

    4. Re:Sad it's missing.... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      $229? The chromebox for meetings START at $999. where are you getting them for $229?

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    5. Re:Sad it's missing.... by swillden · · Score: 1

      $229 is for the Chromebox only, from Google. You can actually get the same thing for $150 or so at Newegg, and elsewhere. The meetings package also includes speaker, microphone, camera and a remote control. I'm not sure why that stuff adds over $700 to the price. I expect you could buy the parts yourself and configure it for considerably less. I'd guess the package price is set based on comparing with competitive options, rather than on the cost of the components. Most companies wouldn't blink at $999 to equip a conference room.

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    6. Re:Sad it's missing.... by bawbgale · · Score: 2

      $200 gets you only a lower-powered i3 or Celeron-based Chromebox. The Chromebox for Meetings bundle includes i7-based boxes, which sell for $600-700. So $999 for that plus the peripherals is a fair price for the hardware BUT it is only sold through resellers and includes $250 annual support contract.

  16. What's so exciting about this? by nnull · · Score: 1

    We've had all these micro computers for over 2 years already running Chrome, linux and now Windows. Just go to Amazon, you have plenty to choose from (My favorite was the MK808). You can run Netflix, hulu, amazon prime, whatever on it just the same. What changed? What's so special? Seems Google is way late to the party on this when there are WAY better offers and devices just on Amazon alone.

    1. Re:What's so exciting about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you found an ARM port of full Google Chrome (not Chromium)? Care to share a link?

    2. Re:What's so exciting about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Those ship with shitty broken Android releases and that's pretty much all they will run. Don't expect updates, and don't expect any 3rd party system images without a lot of luck and a lot of hacking. And like with every Chinese mystery android device expect pre-loaded malware.

      This ships from google, with chromeOS that will work reliably and will get updates.

    3. Re:What's so exciting about this? by nnull · · Score: 1

      Really? Seem to have plenty of support with quite a lot of devices using the latest android. No need for luck or "a lot of hacking". They all work great for me.

  17. Re:HDMI really needs the ability to source power.. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yep. Problem is 99% of all TV manufacturers don't supply more than 0.5A of power there. Every stinking time we try to use a stick powered via the HDMI and it fails, we have to plug in the USB as well. and on some sets an external USB power as they cant supply any real power out their USB jacks.

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  18. Re:HDMI really needs the ability to source power.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Relying USB, which has established power delivery and charging standards for almost a decade now, is not foolish.

    Relying on HDMI, which has absolutely zero record of being a reliable power delivery standard, is quite foolish.

    You can't even depend on most HDMI devices to deliver proper EDID information. Ask anyone who's ever worked on any HDMI connected device - You assume the device you're connecting to is broken and work from there.

  19. crazy. by sootman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Don't expect blazing performance from the quad-core Rockchip SoC that powers the device, but it's perfectly usable."

    The device in question is the size of a pack of gum. It's nice to be living in the future.

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    1. Re:crazy. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "Don't expect blazing performance from the quad-core Rockchip SoC that powers the device, but it's perfectly usable."

      The device in question is the size of a pack of gum. It's nice to be living in the future.

      No, buying a Quad-Core Rockchip the size of a pack of gum for $85 is living in the past, not the future. I know, because I did it, and I regret the money I spent. It wasn't this model, it was an older one, but their support has been sporadic and annoying and I wish I'd given my money to someone else.

      WTF 5 minutes between comments again? FU /.

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  20. It has bluetooth... by Sits · · Score: 1

    ..so there's still the possibility to add a webcam that has a microphone using that (or hook up the keyboard/mouse with that and use a USB webcam) but you're going to need to power. Perhaps for such a setup a Chromebox would be better?

  21. Re:Not tempted? by Dzimas · · Score: 1

    There are quite a few compact bluetooth keyboards available.

  22. USB hub, $10. Or keyboard with ports by raymorris · · Score: 2

    It has USB. Plug a in hub (which can also be pocket sized) and you've got four or five USB ports. Of course, some keyboards have a USB hub built-in, so you don't need a separate hub.

    1. Re:USB hub, $10. Or keyboard with ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Existence of USB does not mean cameras work as well as external audio. in fact if it's Chrome like they say, I guarantee it wont as I cant get any decent USB audio to work with chromeOS and a good webcam also will not show up as a device. Lumpy is pretty spot on with this huge fail of Googles.

      The USB connector is not a magical thing that automatically makes things work.

  23. Getting canceled in 3..2..1.. by melted · · Score: 0

    Why not just buy a Windows 10 stick for about as much? At least Microsoft won't abandon Windows.

  24. /. QOTD by avgapon · · Score: 2

    In the future, you're going to get computers as prizes in breakfast cereals. You'll throw them out because your house will be littered with them.

    How relevant!

  25. a) b) c) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a) Can this run Linux?

    b) Can this run some kind of VPN & remote desktop (to Linux, e.g., NX or alike)?

    c) I didn't see (though it's said it exists) the USB connector... this gets power from the monitor/TV right? So no external HD?

  26. Re:Not tempted? by unencode200x · · Score: 1

    Obviously we should use them to create a Beowulf cluster.

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  27. display server? by fikx · · Score: 1

    Sounds like good specs. Any chance this thing can run an X server? Could make any TV network connected computer monitor!

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  28. Re:Not tempted? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    By the time you buy a keyboard, webcam, audio in/out, bluetooth, sd card storage adapter, a usb hub, and a screen, it's way more expensive than just buying a chromebook (and you don't need to drag those extra things around when you go to the restaurant).

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  29. Launches my eye. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a single link to where you can buy one right now.
    Pisses me off so bad I might never buy one now.

  30. Re: Not tempted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Relatively sure you can use any android device as an input device