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Microsoft Open-Sources Visual Studio Code (visualstudio.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Microsoft today unleashed a torrent of news at its Connect(); 2015 developer event in New York City. The company open-sourced code editing software Visual Studio Code, launched a free Visual Studio Dev Essentials program, pushed out .NET Core 5 and ASP.NET 5 release candidates, unveiled Visual Studio cloud subscriptions, debuted the Visual Studio Marketplace, and a lot more. The source for Visual Studio Code is available at GitHub under the MIT license. They've also released an extension (preview) for Visual Studio that facilitates code debugging on Linux.
way back in 2007.
I don't have time to do it myself, but we definitely need something better than Vim...
Not the real Visual Studio. It's just a shitty fork of GitHub's Atom editor.
Just to avoid any confusion: VS Code is not Visual Studio, VS Code is a web-based code editor.
>> Connect();
Could we please quit with the stupid punctuation in conference names? It just messes with search engines, folder structures, etc. Just call this "VScon" and everyone will get the message that this is for Microsoft developers using Visual Studio.
If that's what they're doing (again), then they're on the path of extinguishing themselves.
This is part of Bill's strategy to cut costs. Open source the code base,
get community bug / enhancements, layoff the developers. Simple math.
CAP === 'disrupts'
If you're a developer working in a shop writing code for bethesda or valve or EA, chances are your windows site license for desktops and servers is already heavily discounted thanks to your generous interest in a visual studio license despite eclipse being right there. Chances are even better that in order to keep this generous discount your manager has started shoehorning C# into your project requirements to 'maximize the investment value' of what basically amounts to a protection racket for good customers.
if you're a web developer chances are vim with a few extensions is working well, or there are already a myriad of alternatives that dont require purchasing an expensive license for your startup. Eclipse has always been an option for you. if you're writing games for Android and dont work on the Candy Crush team then youre almost certainly an eclipse user. If youre writing iOS apps you must have done something truly evil in a past life.
3 years in and No one outside redmond is writing shit for the windows app store. unless you run excel on your phablet, and that comes from the same team that writes excel for your laptop. maybe redmond thinks the reason for this to be a lack of competent IDE for windows? If its looking to gain traction in the 'hot' web languages its about 10 years too late. PHP, python, ruby, and a bunch more shops for these languages made money because they exclusively refused to participate in microsofts cash cow scheme. They already had their desktop and laptop licenses, assuming the devs didnt opt for a macbook, and by the time microsoft dropped the license fees to a few hundred dollars for a group no one was left interested. Maybe microsoft sees this as an opportunity to get a foot in the door at small startups?
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compiler source or gtfo.
Now we can have/need the .NET 3, 4, 4.5 and 5 runtimes all on the same machine, meaning monthly patches will take another half-hour.
.NET runtimes recompile and optimize for the environment they're installed on and that's a Good Thing, but as someone who supports a lot of small & medium business who can't justify WSUS or similar, .NET is - by far - the thing I dread seeing not yet applied to a customer's machine. One new runtime a decade would be just fine by me.
I get it.
Yes, there's supposed to be a certain degree of backwards-compatibility, but in practice that degree is "not enough that installing Product X doesn't frequently force you to install runtime Y".
"Oh no... he found the
If it's not GPL'ed, it's not open source. And we all know what abhorrence MS harbors for GPL...
The Open Source Initiative has certified the MIT license as a valid open source license. Look I'm not a huge MS fan either, but they are using a real OSS license here. Just because MIT isn't copyleft doesn't mean its not OSS.
It's released under the MIT License.
> If it's not GPL'ed, it's not open source
Nope. Open source implies the source that comprises the entirety of the application is available to be inspected. Terms of that access are orthogonal to the phrase, although RMS would insist it must be free as in beer, philosophically or it isn't "open".
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They use tabs instead of spaces!
Can we all go back to writing client/server apps. This web thing is so passé.
Ah, eclipse, with the [garbage collection] power of [garbage collection] java which [garbage collection] [garbage collection] [garbage collection] enables rich [garbage collection] code [garbage collection] [garbage collection] editing and tight integration with [garbage collection] [garbage collection] [garbage collection] java frame [garbage collection]works.
And to run it comfortably, you only need 16gb of ram, and a very fast ssd that it can [garbage collection] [garbage collection] [garbage collection] [garbage collection] [garbage collection] swap [garbage collection] [garbage collection] [garbage collection] [garbage collection] to.
... by looking at that code?
You can now contribute to VS Code:
Submit bugs and help us verify fixes as they are checked in.
Review the source code changes.
Contribute bug fixes through pull requests.
Update and add to the documentation.
Anyways, joking aside, it's cool that stuff is being released in a more open way than it was traditionally with Microsoft. Hopefully they will keep up the trend and not revert to their old ways.
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Great!
Ah Eclipse, the IDE so terrible and slow that Google stopped using it and released Android Studio.
By not having "con" in the name, which everyone knows is short for "convention", they are keeping the hookers away. This will negatively affect attendance.
Microsoft, when will you drop that silly closed MOOXML and switch your office software default to ODF?
Until that happens, noone will ever trust that Microsoft has changed and improved.
...Hell's temperature dropped to that of liquid nitrogen.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
Just great... just when it appeared .NET was going to slowly die off and leave us alone, now they're trying to ensure it sticks around to poison another generation.
And the MIT license is GPL compatible, so you're welcome to add your own GPL parts and release your improved version under GPL.
The Open Source Initiative has certified the MIT license as a valid open source license. Look I'm not a huge MS fan either, but they are using a real OSS license here. Just because MIT isn't copyleft doesn't mean its not OSS.
Not to mention GPL-compatible, which means it in every way has less strings attached. This is not the CDDL or MS PL or some other obscure and intentionally incompatible license, it's as open source as it gets.
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RMS wouldn't insist that software must be free as in beer. He always emphasizes that free software is a matter of freedom, not price.
silly closed MOOXML
OOXML is described in ECMA-376 and ISO/IEC 29500. How exactly is it "closed"?
No True Scotsman is using less than 16 GB of RAM.
I can't hear you over the sound of Windows Global Mother Fucking Spyware.
It's a trap!
Embrace .... extend.
that they needed to steal Google's chromium code. Oh, and those shitheads open sourced it. How nice of MS to open source code based on code you lifted from Google.
Careful: it's under the MIT license, which doesn't include a patent grant like the Apache license.
I loved how you got mod-bombed and called out by at least 3 people. Now go fuck yourself and slither your way back to Stallman's cheese-encrusted cock. You evidently spend a lot of time sucking it, so get to work!
Nope.
RMS does not advocate open source software he advocates Free Software.
That's a very idiosyncratic definition, and not particularly useful. We already have "copylefted" as a word.
The MIT license is considered Free by the Free Software Foundation, and Open Source by the Open Source Initiative. That's good enough for me.
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