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Texas Narrowly Rejects Allowing Academics To Fact-Check Public School Textbooks (csmonitor.com)

jriding writes with news that in a 8-7 vote the Texas State Board of Education rejected a plan to create a group of state university professors to fact-check textbooks approved for the state's 5.2 million public-school students. The CS Monitor reports: "The Board of Education approves textbooks in the nation's second-largest state and stood by its vetting process — despite a Houston-area mother recently complaining that a world geography book used by her son's ninth grade class referred to African slaves as 'workers.' The publisher, McGraw-Hill Education, apologized and moved to make immediate edits."

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  1. Re:Fact check or PC checking? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is it factually incorrect to call a slave a worker?

    Oh, I don't know ... because worker seems to imply they had some choice in this instead of being property. Tell you what, we could subject you to the same things as the slaves were, and you could tell us your thoughts on the difference.

    This isn't about being PC, this is about pretending people who think that saying "well, it wasn't that bad" aren't morons.

    "Workers" aren't chained up, brought thousands of miles, bought and sold, killed or maimed at will.

    You simply can't talk about slavery and try claim you're being "PC" by referring to them as "workers" instead of what they really were. At that point you're just saying stupid shit like "well, slavery was a matter of historical perspective, and if you were a landowner these were valuable employees". This is literally whitewashing history to gloss over the details and downplay what actually happened.

    That's not PC. That's fully intellectually dishonest, and re-casting slavery to pretend it wasn't that bad. This is fully revisionist history and dishonesty so a bunch of white folks can pretend like it was all a big misunderstanding ... and I say this as a pasty white guy.

    Essentially Texas has said their education is no longer about facts, which means who knows what kind of crap will creep into textbooks.

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  2. Re:If you don't like the textbooks, by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it me or are do others here think the next 20 years in the US is going to be an extremely rough ride? In less than 10 years we will have to deal with kids who grew up with these textbooks in our college system. In another 10 years they will start to become our "leaders". in 40 years they will be in the Senate and House making even worse informed decisions than the morons currently there.

  3. Surely You're Joking by Rob+Lister · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In his subjectively honest autobiography "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!", Richard Feynman devotes a chapter (Judging Books by Their Covers) to this and related issues in textbooks. The truth of the matter is the books go mostly un-reviewed. Sure, they hire teams of committees to review them, but more likely than not, nobody on any committee so much as opens them up, much less fact-checks them. They are however lavished with free dinners, vacations, and other graf. The book deals are worth millions, after all.

    He recounts when he was on such a committee and was unable to get a criticism in edgewise.

    Now, add some religion, politics and general bureaucratic incompetence to that and what you end up with is an all but worthless textbook and a keen hope for a teacher that can teach around it.

    Meh. My kids are grown and gone. I wish them luck.

  4. Re:If you don't like the textbooks, by BonThomme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is what your parents said.

  5. Feynmann by necro81 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having no personal experience in choosing textbooks (just buying many of the assigned texts in college - not much choice there), my view on the process is heavily influenced by Richard Feynmann's recounting the time he served on the California Curriculum Commission in Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynmann. For those who haven't read it before, here's his chapter on Judging Books by Their Covers.

  6. Re:If you don't like the textbooks, by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's Antarctic sea ice - other end of the world. And the increase is only 1/3 the area of the ice lost in the Arctic. And note that's *area*, not *volume*. Old sea ice tends to get very thick over the decades, young sea ice, not so much. And I would guess that the increase in Antarctic sea ice is related to the ongoing melting of the continental ice sheet - as fresh water flows out to sea the surface water is becoming much less salty and thus freezes at warmer temperatures. (fresh water floats on salt water, and salt lowers the freezing point - that's why they salt roads to remove ice,).

    Nobody claims that global warming will be uniform, in fact it's expected that some areas will get colder as weather patterns change. As will transient cold spells such as the polar vortex related freezes we've been having lately.

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  7. Re:Not just money by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And with the Charter schools it becomes a vicious cycle.

    1. Charter school takes public school money.
    2. Charter school only takes in "good" students (e.g. not kids with low grades or with difficulties that would require extra assistance).
    3. Students with "difficulties" are left in the public schools who have less money to help them.
    4. Charter schools get better test scores than public schools. (Since they get to pick and choose not only what students they take but what test results they publish.)
    5. Businesses that run charter schools profit and donate money to politicians.
    6. Politicians call for more charter schools and to close public schools.
    7. Repeat 1 - 6.

    Unfortunately, we're seeing this in action in NY and it's not pretty.

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  8. Re:That's because you took Economics not PolySci by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually capitalism comes out really badly in many sectors when looked at from an economics point of view. Particularly natural monopolies (eg: utilities), or where there is no real competition (eg: emergency heath services).