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Chicago Sends More Than 100,000 "Bogus" Camera-Based Speeding Tickets

Ars Technica, based on an in-depth report (paywalled) at the Chicago Tribune, says that the city of Chicago has been misusing traffic cameras to trigger automated speeding tickets. In particular, these cameras are placed in places where there are enhanced penalties for speeding, putatively intended to increase child safety. The automated observation system, though, has been used to send well over 100,000 tickets that the Tribune analysis deems "questionable," because they lack the evidence which is supposed to be required -- for instance, many of these tickets are unbacked by evidence of the presence of children, or were issued when the speeding rules didn't apply (next to a park when that park was closed).

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  1. Re:Children or not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    False. It can clap a number on any car going by.

    Problem is that speeding and red light cameras are easily abused. I remember talking with someone related to this, and even though it shouldn't be possible, he said that the red light cameras he put up had the ability to flip a green light red, pop the picture, flip it back to green, as well as just have varying yellow light timings, so one car may have four seconds... another, late at night, may wind up with a direct green -> red transition and a ticket.

    Once you have a private party that can allege something that can't be disproven, it is ripe for abuse.

  2. Re:Children or not by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, if the signs say "speed limit is x between the hours of y and z", and the ticket is issued at z+c ... then the ticket isn't valid.

    I'm not saying people don't speed (not even a little). But I will readily believe these things don't align with the law, and give tickets which are incorrect because they aren't accounting for time of day.

    Often these are set up to just call everything a ticket, and collect extra revenue. If that's by policy or incompetence that's not always clear.

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  3. Need to use the system against itself by FeatherBoa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (1) go to the local police station, city offices, courts, city hall and make a note of a bunch of license plates in the employee lots.
    (2) print out paper license plate sized versions of the plate numbers
    (3) park a car at the speed sensor.
    (4) tape a paper copy on the back of the car
    (5) cover a softball with tin-foil
    (6) play catch in front of the speed sensor
    (7) repeat for all your fake license plates
    (8) ?????
    (9) Profit!

  4. Re:Children or not by The-Ixian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I drove for UPS they teach you to always be wary of "stale" green lights.

    That is, if you didn't see the light go from red to green, you have no idea how much time is left on the clock and should be prepared to stop.

    So they taught us to take our foot off the gas and be ready to apply the brake up until about 30 feet before the light, then, if it still had not changed to yellow, clear the intersection by scanning both directions, then accelerate slightly to the other side of the intersection.

    Of course, we were also taught that ALL accidents are your fault no matter percentage the law may assign to an outcome.

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  5. Re:Computers against "prosecutorial discretion" by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Compared to America's interstates, it is, actually, a pathetic road â" mere two or three narrow lanes. But they don't have a speed-limit on many of them anyway

    A traffic engineer once explained that the American highway system was designed so that cars would be able to go 100 MPH safely (with regard to curves, etc.) And that was using assuming the tech of the time.

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