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Researchers Create Plant-Circuit Hybrid (sciencemag.org)

sciencehabit writes: Researchers have crafted flexible electronic circuits inside a rose. Eventually such circuitry may help farmers eavesdrop on their crops and even control when they ripen. The advance may even allow people to harness energy from trees and shrubs not by cutting them down and using them for fuel, but by plugging directly into their photosynthesis machinery. The researchers used "an organic electronic building block called PEDOT-S:H. Each of these building blocks consists of a short, repeating chain of a conductive organic molecule with short arms coming off each link of the chain. Each of the arms sports a sulfur-containing group linked to a hydrogen atom. Berggren's group found that when they placed them in the water, the rose stems readily pulled the short polymer chains up the xylem channels (abstract). ... The upshot was that the myriad short polymer chains quickly linked themselves together into continuous strings as long as 10 centimeters. The researchers then added electronic probes to opposite ends of these strings, and found that they were, in fact, wires, conducting electricity all down the line."

39 comments

  1. I want it by frnic · · Score: 1

    Not to get electricity from (as suggested) but to plug directly into me to recharge me!

    1. Re:I want it by KGIII · · Score: 1

      First thing I thought of: "Holy shit! This is amazing." To be able to put tech, in the newer sense, directly into a plant is astounding. Really, I didn't think I'd ever see such things in my lifetime. For all the complaining we do, we sure have some insanely cool stuff either already made or in the works. I carry an order (probably two or three) of magnitude computer power in my pocket than was used to put a man on the moon.

      Worse? (Or more impressive?) I don't even *need* it for anything. Then, look at the power consumption for those compute cycles.

      Now? Now we're putting chips in plants. I don't think even sci-fi authors had thought of this when I was young. This is the first that I've heard or read of this, at least.

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    2. Re:I want it by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Really, I didn't think I'd ever see such things in my lifetime. For all the complaining we do, we sure have some insanely cool stuff either already made or in the works.

      I'm still trying to wrap my head around "Space Food Sticks".

      http://www.phaidon.com/resourc...

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    3. Re:I want it by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Now I know you're old. ;-) I remember absolutely having to have a pair of PJs that had astronauts on them. I seem to recall that I "settled" for the pair that I got (Woolworth's I think?) because they didn't have feet. PJs with feet were awesome when I was a kid. I could slide across the floor like a ninja. That was high tech stuff, right there. Look at us today. Imagine, if we were old enough to have seen the first jets or cars?

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    4. Re:I want it by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      PJs with feet were awesome when I was a kid. I could slide across the floor like a ninja.

      You know, they make pajamas with feet for adults, right? Just be prepared for your significant other to never look at you the same way again.

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    5. Re:I want it by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I did not know that. :/ I don't think I'd buy any. The magic is best left in the past. Besides, I'd break a hip.

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    6. Re:I want it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bablyon 5 showed us the bad places this tech takes you - Shadow starships and mysterious people whispering if you go to Z'ha'dum ...

    7. Re:I want it by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You know that it was a television show, right? I've only seen a couple of episodes. I'm not a fan of television and don''t really recall a time when I was much of a fan. Anyhow, it's fiction, not a documentary. Sure, there's some chance that it may be correct (and I'd listen to a logical argument that supported that side, I could probably make said argument with some research and time) but I don't think that we should hold back progress based on a televised work of fiction.

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    8. Re:I want it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh sense of humour failure alert condition pink.

    9. Re:I want it by KGIII · · Score: 1

      LOL I'd wondered about that, while posting, but this is Slashdot so you never know. :/ I was pretty sure that they were serious but it probably doesn't help that I am unfamiliar with the series. I've never been a huge fan of television. I miss a few references but I do learn about a few programs by the various conversations. :D

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  2. Circuits? by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wires, according to TFS. Not much of a circuit, really...

    But it's a start. Perhaps they'll also figure out resistors, capacitors and semiconductors. Along with a way for them to self-assemble in such a way as to be able to do something of an intentionally designed nature.

    Interesting to see such research going on. I wonder what the eventual consequences might be if they can go further. Rare plants that report to "central" if you try to uproot or poison them? Vegetation that sends out an analysis of the digestive conditions of those that eat them? Weeds that are weather stations? Surveillance built into the trees on a nicely shaded street? Organic LED displays from the garden? Soft, programmable illumination from the tree over your picnic table?

    Okay, perhaps I just need more coffee. Not supposed to be dreaming after I wake up. :)

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    1. Re:Circuits? by laurencetux · · Score: 1

      Doctor who episode "Flesh and Stone" the ship had a forest of "Tree Borgs"

      i think that semiconductors will be the real trick since

      Resistors= chunks of plant that have silicon or carbon
      Capacitors= Berry type nodules
      Inductors= Coils of wire

    2. Re:Circuits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I even argued years ago about plugging into your dog to charge your cell!! Though of course I can keep saying... THIS CAN BE DONE... before anyone else and no one will care at all...

  3. And then they rise up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you want Triffids? 'Cause is it probably how we'll get Triffids.

    1. Re:And then they rise up... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      I want Furies*. Because that would really sting.

      * Keith Roberts "The Furies"

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    2. Re:And then they rise up... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I want Furies*.

      I first read that as "I want Furries".

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    3. Re:And then they rise up... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Ouch. :)

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  4. Big words scare me. They must be dangerous! by Nutria · · Score: 1

    poly(3,4-ethylenedioxythiophene)
    polystyrene sulfonate
    covalently attached anionic side group

    Obviously Eeeevil Monsanto is involved. All right-thinking students and faculty at LinkÃping University must shun and harass these evil doers!!

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  5. Awesome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now the feds will be able to put circuits in marijuana plants to spy on us.

  6. We've heard this all before. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, it's just yet another Slashdot submission describing grandiose applications of some minor scientific discovery. In the end none of it will turn out to be even remotely feasible in practice.

    These types of submissions happen all of the time here. The discoveries they describe very rarely end up producing anything useful.

    There's only one submission that I can think of that didn't follow that trend, and that was the one announcing Firefox OS. In that case, I thought that Firefox OS wouldn't just come to nothing; it would actually be a total disaster instead. I think I was right. We've seen it drain away resources that could have been used to restore Firefox to its 3.6 UI, and to finally fix the performance problems.

    1. Re:We've heard this all before. by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      There's plenty of prior art too.

  7. Sci-Fi Reality by xdor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thought of this as a science-fiction premise about 8 years ago. A world where one would literally grow a cell-phone -- completely biodegradable.

    At this rate we'll have silly elf-leaves growing around our ears that allow us to communicate with each other -- having all the appearance of telepathy but all the boring reality of CDMA

    1. Re:Sci-Fi Reality by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      How about a philodendron that texts you at work when it needs water?

    2. Re:Sci-Fi Reality by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      having all the appearance of telepathy but all the boring reality of CDMA

      CDMA is rather amazing, actually....

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    3. Re:Sci-Fi Reality by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

      I recommend you read "The Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson.

  8. Robotic Plant Overlords by koelpien · · Score: 1

    I, for one, wholeheartedly welcome our Robotic Plant Overlords.

    1. Re:Robotic Plant Overlords by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      I, for one, wholeheartedly welcome our Robotic Plant Overlords.

      I don't. At least there will be warning. Just watch out for these plants demanding blood. They are known to prey on unsuspecting awkward antisocial guys and make them extravagant promises, so this is particularly relevant to the Slashdot crowd.

      I quote an ancient warning song of the bards passed down for generations:

      They may offer you fortune and fame,
      Love and money and instant acclaim,
      But whatever they offer you:
      Don't feed the plants!

      They may offer you lots of cheap thrills,
      Fancy condos in Beverly Hills,
      But whatever they offer you:
      Don't feed the plants!

      I have even heard tell of an old-fashioned morality play which shows the consequences of ignoring this advice.

  9. Pottering with circuitry by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    But just think of the buzz you could get!

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  10. Circuits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think so. From TFA:

    The researchers then added electronic probes to opposite ends of these strings, and found that they were, in fact, wires, conducting electricity all down the line.

    Sorry, a "wire" is not the same thing as a "circuit". At least not in my dictionary. Not trying to diminish this engineering achievement, but words do matter when it comes to these things.

    TFA also mentions the possibility of harvesting energy from plants using this tech. Not my area, but is this really possible? Can you take energy from a plant without stunting/killing it?

  11. Uh oh. by John+Jorsett · · Score: 1

    The advance may even allow people to harness energy from trees and shrubs not by cutting them down and using them for fuel, but by plugging directly into their photosynthesis machinery.

    Isn't this how The Matrix began?

  12. What happens if you EAT this salad? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Does it get broken down into something harmless in the stomach? Or do YOU get conductive lines along YOUR plumbing?

    It's not a minor thing: For starters the heartbeat propagation is partly electrical. Better-than-blood-plasma conductors laid out along the plumbing of the heart might affect the heartbeat in a dangerous manner.

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  13. Re:Big words scare me. They must be dangerous! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not until they try to make people grow it as a food crop.

  14. Evolution of charge-storing plants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine the evolution of plants that evolved to store a portion of the energy they collected as electric charge. It might be selected as a way to deter predation, giving any unwary herbivore a nasty, electric eel-like jolt.

    1. Re:Evolution of charge-storing plants? by vivian · · Score: 1

      Now that's what I'd call a power plant!

  15. Re:Big words scare me. They must be dangerous! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    "Obviously Eeeevil Monsanto is involved."

    I for one would love to see Monsanto using this tech in plants that taze anti-GMO activists attacking their test fields.

  16. Re:Big words scare me. They must be dangerous! by Nutria · · Score: 1

    LOL.

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  17. Mr Ranger isn't gonna like this Yogi! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    Opps, I meant the anti-GMO crowd. This electrical circuitry might get out into the wild, and soon the only roses left will be circuitzed.

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  18. plant batteries by graphius · · Score: 1

    so much for the matrix...

  19. Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ALIEN EARTH, by Edmond Hamilton.