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MST3K Successfully Crowdsources Its Comeback (thenewstack.io)

An anonymous reader writes: At least three new episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000 will be filmed, thanks to over $2 million in online contributions from fans. Responding to a Kickstarter plea by series creator Joel Hodgson, fans contributed over $1.5 million within just two days, and after five more they'd push Hodgson over the first $2 million threshold. "We've got movie sign," Hodgson posted on Twitter, noting that for each additional $1.1 million raised over the next 20 days, three more new episodes would be filmed. And this Thursday he'll be hosting a grateful online marathon of classic episodes on Thanksgiving Day, a tradition which dates back nearly 25 years, when "Mystery Science Theater 3000" first began its 8-year run on Comedy Central and the Sci-Fi channel.

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  1. Question for fans by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Could someone explain why this apparently costs so much per episode to make?

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    1. Re:Question for fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Could someone explain why this apparently costs so much per episode to make?

      Let me assist with this helpful infographic! https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/893/621/f596d3d17d6aaa5aecb66b755ecbea3e_original.gif?v=1447300148&w=680&fit=max&q=92&s=955ed3cdcf0c129451bf0b7b858302df

    2. Re:Question for fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me assist with this helpful infographic! -SNIP-

      https://goo.gl/zhkw8c

    3. Re:Question for fans by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So according to that, each episode costs $250k to produce. Sounds about right. Remember they have to license the rights to each movie, in addition to paying all the staff (including the editing).

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    4. Re:Question for fans by cayenne8 · · Score: 3
      Hey...at least we have one day of GOOD TV actually worth watching coming up!!!

      ;)

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    5. Re:Question for fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, for a moment I was worried Google would not know I accessed the URL.

    6. Re: Question for fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hookers and blow.

    7. Re:Question for fans by RichMan · · Score: 1

      Every episode needs a lot of things -
      a) writing staff and expenses
      b) actors/puppeteers and expenses
      c) lighting equipment and crew
      d) sound equipment and crew
      e) camera equipment and crew
      f) director, accoutrements and expenses
      g) accountant, producer and expenses
      h) pay for the rights for the original movie -> in perpetuity!! Must become attached to this show. So someone licensing this show does not have to go back and also license the original
      i) craft services
      j) sound stage
      As they mention in the article part of the problem is people were not paid union before. Typical of a small station fly by night done for love project. They want to actually pay people properly at current wages.

    8. Re:Question for fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      read the kickstarter?

    9. Re:Question for fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Movies and TV cost so much to make... because they make so much money.

      It's that simple. Remember this the next time you hear a Hollywood cunt complaining that piracy could stop them making expensive films.

      The real money in Hollywood is in production. The money is made before it ever reaches a cinema - because everything is obscenely overpriced to ensure that all the film never makes a penny in profit. It's all taken out.

    10. Re:Question for fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is "rewards and shipping"? If that could be eliminated then there'd be money for two more episodes.

    11. Re:Question for fans by FacePlant · · Score: 1

      Aside form simple production costs. The now popular show is goign to have to spend more $$$ to acquire the all the correct rights to the source material.

      You'll note that RiffTrax continued the tradition by creating a track that you play along with source material that you have to acquire separately. This allowed them to riff on some very big, very expensive properties, without having to try to worry about performance and distribution rights.

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    12. Re:Question for fans by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Rewards for backers. The backers themselves are paying for this, so what do you expect to happen instead?

  2. Cost of "donating" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As someone who is really interested in helping this project (and has looked at it previously) the one negative I have to say is that many of the options to help are quite expensive. This is of course, fine on some level as there are a lot of choices.. -However-.. The fact that in order to simply view the episodes you are supporting you have to contribute a minimum(!) of 100$ is a bit off putting.... to say the least.

    1. Re:Cost of "donating" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For $100, you get digital downloads as opposed to having to watch them on-line.

    2. Re:Cost of "donating" by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Plus, if enough other people put in their $100, you get 6 episodes for that price. A little over $16 apiece. I'm not sure how much the DVDs where back when they sold those, but it's close IIRC.

      Personally I am happy to get just the 3 episodes for my money.

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  3. What movies will they pick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There's been a lot of new bad movies put out, but some classics would be nice.

    1. Re:What movies will they pick? by glitch! · · Score: 1

      There's been a lot of new bad movies put out, but some classics would be nice.

      I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that the first Dune movie would be good fodder. The one with Sting.

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    2. Re:What movies will they pick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Battlefield Earth!

      OH PLEASE Battlefield Earth.

    3. Re:What movies will they pick? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      They can't budget the scientology lawsuits.

  4. Nostalgia is a dead end by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I enjoyed the hell out of mst3k, but some things are better left alone. It's really hard to recapture something that's very specific to a time and a generation.

    Seeing new mst3k episodes is kind of like watching a Guns'n'Roses reunion tour. It's not going to be anything like seeing them back in the day and it all feels a little seedy and desperate with a fat, bald Axl Rose and the once-rocker audience now checking their smartphones and Apple Watches to text the nanny that they're going to be a little late.

    If you're an artist and you've done something good, move on and do something else good. Don't try to recapture your glory days. Like Earnest T Bass from the Andy Griffith Show used to say, "I don't chew my cabbage twice".

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    1. Re:Nostalgia is a dead end by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      If you're an artist and you've done something good, move on and do something else good.

      Well said.

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    2. Re:Nostalgia is a dead end by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 1

      Christ, man. Just don't watch it. We don't need an essay about your existential issues with aging.

    3. Re:Nostalgia is a dead end by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Christ, man. Just don't watch it. We don't need an essay about your existential issues with aging.

      You want a retread of a show from the '80s and you think I'm the one with the issues with aging?

      Dude, there has to be something more compelling than your show from 30 years ago.

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  5. In point of fact by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    Mystery Science Theater began its run in the Twin Cities, I believe it was on channel 23? later on Saturday mornings, in the late 80s.

    I had the good fortune to work briefly in high school with Trace Beaulieu (he was Lex Luthor), after which I'd heard about this new thing he was doing.

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    1. Re:In point of fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are many "Twin Cities" in the USA.

    2. Re:In point of fact by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Twin+citi...

      Give me a break. There may be many 'twin cities' in the US, but there's a single metro area referred commonly, nationally, to as "The Twin Cities".

      Google it, pedant.

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  6. I'll pass since none of the originals are doing it by Cito · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Brand new voices for the robots,

    New host, kid from Nerdist?

    wtf?

    I don't want some millennial sjw/PC bullshit,

    bring back the original voices or stick with rifftrax and don't bring it back.

    The original anti-political correct crew was best. I'm not supporting this fake mst3k, and yes it's fake if it's new host, all new robot voices, it's not mst3k.

  7. Finally! by hoborg1 · · Score: 0

    Finally, Kickstarter does something that is worthwhile on the entertainment front!
    I'm just wondering what they can actually do that Rifftrax doesn't already have covered. Maybe the skits?

    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I cared rather little for the skits, to be honest. Especially musical ones. Some of the short ones were amusing but most of the time I just wanted them to get back to the movie already.

    2. Re: Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope supposedly the new cast will include Felicia day. I withdrew my backing when I heard that. I'll pass.

  8. Re:I'll pass since none of the originals are doing by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 0

    I suppose everyone should pass on Dr. Who since there has been more than one?

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  9. NOOOOO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its not over. He needs $5 million to get some network interest. Making 3 episodes is a joke. Come on, give a little, a updated version of MST3K could be good.

  10. Re:I'll pass since none of the originals are doing by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

    Not to mention James Bond.

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  11. Re:I'll pass since none of the originals are doing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes, those are both very good examples of reboots that are far worse than the originals. Others include the "new" Star Trek and those horrible Mission Impossible movies.

    What's your point?

  12. Re:I'll pass since none of the originals are doing by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 0

    You actually mean to imply that season one of Dr. Who is better than the latest several ? Big fat no.... That my friend is the point....

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  13. Re:I'll pass since none of the originals are doing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Define "latest several" - I think it's absolutely fair to say that the 70s and 80s Doctor Who is infinitely superior to the CGI crap they're churning out now.

  14. I funded when this was first posted on /. by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    This was my very first kickstarter donation, and I joined at the 250 level for the mission patches.

    I'm happy with three new shows, but it would be awesome for 12.

    I'm thinking of Bumping up to 327 just for the signed poster.

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    1. Re:I funded when this was first posted on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't care.

    2. Re:I funded when this was first posted on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't care.

      Speak for yourself - *I* care. Just not very much.

  15. I'll stick with Rifftrax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always though Michael was much funnier and smoother than Joel.

  16. Hmmm... by garryknight · · Score: 1

    I think they're making a mst3k.



    (Did ya see what I did there? Did ya? Did ya?)

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  17. Re:I'll pass since none of the originals are doing by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Yes, those are both very good examples of reboots that are far worse than the originals. Others include the "new" Star Trek and those horrible Mission Impossible movies.

    Huh. And there was me thinking the opposite. I guess one of us must be objectively wrong.

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  18. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The series was relentlessly unfunny. The comments were puerile and silly, the puppets would obstruct the view, and the movies were worth watching for their own sake, for historical reasons, even if they sucked quite often, without having those clowns uttering nonsense over the dialog.

    1. Re:Why? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Oh, push the button, Frank

    2. Re:Why? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      and the movies were worth watching for their own sake, for historical reasons, even if they sucked quite often

      Respectfully disagree.

  19. We've got movie sign! by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Run in panic! Queue the door sequence!

  20. Good news, bad news by tipo159 · · Score: 1

    Yay, MST3K is coming back.

    Unfortunately, I can't watch it because Jonah Ray is on it. I politely corrected something that he said on the Nerdist podcast and he went off on me. I tried to apologize and he just raised the level of his bile. Nerdist is one of my favorite podcasts, but I don't listen if he is on it.

    1. Re:Good news, bad news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool story bro, nobody gives a shit

  21. Do the Star Wars prequels by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    We absolutely need to make fun of young Anakin and Jar Jar Binks

  22. You're missing something important by Rujiel · · Score: 1

    The cast is going to be all-new, for reasons similar to what you mentioned.

  23. Re:I'll pass since none of the originals are doing by GerbilKor · · Score: 1
    You are not the only one to feel that way. Joel gave a detailed explanation on why they are bringing on a new cast.

    As much as I love the old seasons, we're not just trying to make an "MST3K reunion episode." Even if we do get our entire old cast and staff to come help out, I think it's important – essential– that we bring in new talent to keep the show fresh, and to help it evolve.

    I was hesitant about having a new cast as well, but his answers sold me on the idea.