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UK Mobile Operator Could Block Ads At Network Level (telegraph.co.uk)
Mickeycaskill writes: UK network operator EE says it is investigating the possibility of blocking adverts at a network level, allowing customers to limit the types and frequency of adverts they see in browsers and applications. The move is likely to concern digital publishers, many of whom rely on advertising revenue to fund their content. Ad blockers have become more popular in recent times, with many users employing them to save battery life, consume less data and protect against malvertising attacks. EE CEO Olaf Swantee said, "We think it’s important that, over time, customers start to be offered more choice and control over the level and intensity of ads on mobile. For EE, this is not about ad blocking, but about starting an important debate around customer choice, controls and the level of ads customers receive. This is an important debate that needs to happen soon."
Its not going to work, and besides he only said that to kickstart a conversation in the UK about annoying ads.
Problem solved.
Tit for tat is a game for two that is often circular and usually broken with discussion. ;)
The integrated face system blocks adverts and will also block anything that EE dosen't approve of.
DMCA will shut that UK operator down faster than you can say rumpledforeskin.
I hope your software ability doesn't match your spelling and grammar ability.
If you pay me to try it, I may. In the meantime, I'll simply do what other users should do. Search Google for "ad block host files" and read the directions. Genius not required. Spelling and grammar are required.
Sincerely,
The Grammar Nazi
Spamming? How cool of you!
I suggest people interested search Google for FREE solutions. Simply search, "ad block hosts files" read the simple directions and BAM your done. No executables, no untrusted software, no convincing from Anonymous Cowards.
Yeah the ads were irritating and got worse and worse over the years, but it was the malware that made me finally install blocking software. Malware is the reason I won't run a browser without ad-blocking software these days, and recommend it to all my friends.
First they blocked ads, but I don't see ads
Then they blocked porn, but I don't watch porn... (Liar!)
Then they blocked politicians... well, that's okay (No it's not!)
Then they blocked Slashdot... Okay that's going too far, everybody, out!
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
I believe the problem on mobile devices is not per say well behaved adverts, but instead its adverts that cause the page to morph or change some seconds after it is rendered. My local newspapers website is virtually unusable on my android tablet device. The page loads, you start reading, or decide what to click on next and suddenly the content moves down the page so that an advert can appear...
I guess EE customers don't use Yahoo! email....
No, absolutely no! You will not squeeze yourself into that position where you can demand money from publishers to let their stuff through. I hate ads, but I'll be damned if I let ISPs be the gatekeeper to the data I can or can't get. You're not supposed to look at the data anyway, so how do you even know what to block? Right, you are looking, aren't you?
also heals acne and toenail fungus. ask your doctor if cellphones are right for you.
if it was all typed in caps, it would be just another late-night TV ad for 1-800-YOU-FOOL type merchandise.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
I don't like ads, but I don't want ISPs to be allowed to monitor or alter content mid-stream. I appreciate the intention, but that's a door we've already been clear we don't want opened.
What I would like, however, is an ad-blocking router.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
If you could get rid of auto-playing ads, that'd be great.
You make a big deal that browser-level blocking extensions are "usermode slower & increases messagepassing". But if a browser extension blocks a request, the CPU doesn't need to make a context switch to kernel mode in the first place. And good luck with your hosts files once ad networks start randomizing their servers' hostnames for every hit using wildcard CNAME records. Finally, and most relevantly to the article, good luck changing the hosts file on mobile devices without root privileges.
this is not about ad blocking, but about starting an important debate
No, it's about ad blocking. No one ever wants to "start a debate" or "have a conversation" or "open a dialog".
Everyone saying those things simply wants to do their thing and ram it down your throat while getting tards to parrot their talking points in the guise of "debate", "conversation", or "dialog".
I'm 100% against ads and 100% for blocking them. I'm just sick of asshats using the phony debate/dialog/conversation bullshit to pretend they haven't already taken a hardline stance on a subject.
Treat ads like spam and block it any way possible.
Now were talking!
Bring back the internet of open and free for the community. If you are a for-profit thinking you can make a quick buck you don't belong here.
Have gnu, will travel.
If a web application has a good reason to require JavaScript to function, what should it do to gain the trust of a NoScript user?
Offer source so people can run it locally.
What use is a local app that is unable to access the resources it requires due to the Same Origin Policy? Some of the resources are dynamically generated by the web app's server. Even ability to download static resources locally as well would fail because Chrome considers each file in the file: scheme to be a separate origin.
If you instead refer to storing all resources on a computer owned by the user, there are two things likely to happen. The first is unwillingness to share source code: "You can use the app on the public server without charge, or you can license a copy to run on your own private server for $9,999." The second is network effects. Consider a web application that allows users of a particular server to interact, but user accounts on your private server cannot interact with users on the public servers. So good luck getting the majority of users to use your private server instead of the public ones.
If you want more concrete examples, consider whether the publisher would be wiling to offer the source code for Google Maps or H&R Block At Home or Netflix or an HTML5 multiplayer game with greater-than-hobbyist production values. Or what would be the business model for funding the continued development of such an application as free software?
As more Internet users adopt NoScript, does this mean people are going to have to stop writing web apps and instead write six different native apps, one each for Windows desktop, Windows UWP, OS X, iOS, X11/Linux, and Android?
I've tried it, and my core 2 duo never finished without crashing.
So much duplication that it never completed? Just ground it to a halt (not out of ram) even after several tries.
I wish you'd just post the output weekly somewhere as APK master host file so I could just copy it in to place on all my devices.
Take your spam and fuck off, apk.
Now, what's that you said Coren22, by AC?
* :)
(Hahahahahaha - fool!)
APK
P.S.=> You will ALWAYS be my fool now - accept it!
... apk
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)
Now, what's that you said Coren22 by AC?
* :)
(Hahahahahaha - fool!)
APK
P.S.=> You will ALWAYS be my fool now - accept it!
... apk
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)
Now what's that you said Coren22 by AC?
* :)
(Hahahahahaha - fool!)
APK
P.S.=> You will ALWAYS be my fool now - accept it!
... apk
See subject (they're in slower less cpu serviced usermode + redundant & inefficient vs.hosts in kernelmode): Your fundamentals = FAULTY from the get-go tepples.
APK
P.S.=> My post such as this one have all the backup for that statement that I need http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... - sorry tepples - I like you, but it's just facts (inviolate, concrete, verifiable, & UNDENIABLE facts w/ backing from reputable enough sources in that link above)... apk
"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts
hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."
FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
NOT a secretary!
I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
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"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:
Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
APK
P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag:
Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it & how you said I said not to run DNS when I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS with AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
OR
About how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too (& it doesn't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
LOL... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!
... apk
How many rows was dataset? I deduplicate nearly 4++ million here daily (takes ~ 33 minutes on a Core I7 4790k, & ~ 55 minutes on a Core I7 920 @ stock mhz on both).
Filtering takes longer & isn't recommended over iirc, 500k rows on intake (bust it up into smaller ones to work on @ first for filtering & merge in newly sorted/deduped/filtered data afterward doing ONLY a dedup on it).
* Typically when you "haul in" the 1st initial dataset that the program imports it shouldn't be more than 250k or so lines TOPS from the 10 base security community hosts file data providers the program draws its data from.
(There's a "hidden debug tool" in its upper left hand-side CONTROL box menu item entitled "APKDebugErrorLogDump" - use it & IF it has ANY messages? Post them in reply)
APK
P.S.=> For troubleshooting:
Firewall rule: Let it thru your firewall inbound @ least IF you have an issue (has network code in it is why to obtain data via downloads & that *may* be your problem).
You may have the issue MS introduced in "Windows Defender" in VISTA where you have to make a rule in it to ALLOW hosts alteration - ANOTHER KNOWN ISSUE MS introduced regarding hosts most everyone KNOWS about too
OR
You didn't set your local dnscache clientside slower usermode service off as the program & it's installation directions recommend is all!
NOW, *if* that all doesn't work & the program just "hangs"?
It means 1 of the sites is UNDER ATTACK (THIS IS NOTED IN ITS CONFIG TAB where you pick sites to download custom hosts file data from) & the socket's timing out.
See "Config" tab, & check each site (it allows this) by trying to go to it & if it's down in your browser it'll tell you so... apk
Free, a network operator in France, already offers the option to block ads on both their fixed (DSL and FTTH) and mobile networks. It was first implemented and enabled by default) three years ago when they were “fighting” with Google about who should pay for interco upgrades.
It is now default-disabled and opt-in as they managed to reach an agreement with them.
See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...
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FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' many security issues & it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels combined too from 1 file you NATIVELY have - firewalls do the rest (on lesser used IP address based tracking vs. host-domain name type).
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It obtains data vs. threats & for adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!
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It SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!
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It does all that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!
---
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
So is its installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
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* "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".
APK
P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:
"The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!
(Accept NO substitutes!)
...apk
See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' many security issues & it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels combined too from 1 file you NATIVELY have - firewalls do the rest (on lesser used IP address based tracking vs. host-domain name type).
---
It obtains data vs. threats & for adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!
---
It SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!
---
It does all that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!
---
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
So is its installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
---
* "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".
APK
P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:
"The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!
(Accept NO substitutes!)
...apk
See subject & http://mobile.slashdot.org/com... You may, on the note of the subject, wish to take a peek @ that instead (for now @ least)...
* :)
APK
P.S.=> Accept no substitutes... apk
One extension being sub-par does not make them all sub-par. That is terrible logic.
Using ADB to update your HOSTS files is ridiculous, and HOSTS protection is far from perfect. A wildcard advertising domain can not be blocked by a HOSTS file unless the HOSTS file is megabytes large just for the single wildcard domain. If you don't understand why, you really need (more) help.
As chihowa points out, you need root on your phone to use a hosts file. What percentage of Android users have root on their phones? As I understand it, the farthest a "typical" Android user will go is turn on the "Unknown sources" to install an APK file. But because of Android's security model, an APK file can't affect DNS resolution, despite the name, unless it's a full-on VPN client.
Could this possibly go against net neutrality rules? Though I do totally agree with blocking them on Mobile -- especially video-based ads (I'm looking at you YouTube)
But how can your host file tool be installed on a smart phone? And how can your tool be a faster solution than a complete advertisement block on ISP level, long before it reaches your network adapter?
See subject & these testimonials to that effect from your /. peers:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
APK
P.S.=> I'm willing to try help you if a problem indeed exists - reply here to THIS post, or to my other one -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/com... & most importantly I suppose, & I didn't ask these questions THERE, was:
1.) What version of Windows do you use?
2.) Did the data finish intake??
3.) Were you actually in process doing sort/deduplicate???
4.) Did you get to the point it asked you to Convert/Filter????
... apk
See subject: Personally, I think smartphones are toys - that's right: Why?
Well - Afaik @ least, & yes I code JAVA so I could code for them (as well as Delphi which ports to ANDROID too)??
You need a PC to develop for them...
I.E./E.G.-> You really can't do development on a smartphone directly (again, afaik @ least) & I wouldn't want to with such a puny keypad & screen either!
(Thus - I'm not really interested in them to be bluntly honest about it, so to answer your question? See my subject...)
HOWEVER:
I do know how EASY it is to move a hosts file over to a smartphone using ADB... piece of cake. They work there, but using TOO BIG of one can be problematic (if you're on a 'lower-end' model with little RAM/storage that's free...) & hosts work there (they're really just a Linux variant in ANDROID's case w/ a BSD derived IP stack that has hosts (except for KitKat ANDROID, where GOOGLE literally stripped hosts afaik).
APK
P.S.=> I'm more interested in PC's & Servers by far (kind of like how Linus Torvalds isn't interested in doing web page work & has publicly stated it)... apk
See subject: It's not ridiculous when it works Dave420. Hosts do more than ANY 1 browser addon by far & for less for more security, speed, reliability, + anonymity too!
APK
P.S.=> Those are the facts Dave420... apk
"Everyone who does use HOSTS files (myself included) doesn't use your software" - by dave420 (699308) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @07:30AM (#50869743)
Some /.'ers made you "eat your words": They use my hosts file engine saying it's good vs. your bullshit:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
(LMAO... you FAIL as usual, again, vs. me!)
* What's that you said I have quoted from you above Dave420?
APK
P.S.=> Thanks for making me look good: You always say something I can put away with undeniable facts that prove you wrong... lol!
... apk
"You have no supporters with accounts" - by dave420 (699308) on Monday November 23, 2015 @11:17AM (#50985793)
See subject & a quote of your words you must eat vs. me again:
Tepples does http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
aaaaaaargh! does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Trax3001BBS does http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
KGIII does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
* So do all these /.'ers:
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015
"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015
"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015
"In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015
APK
P.S.=> What's that you said Dave420? Outnumbered by 12++:1 for starters?? LMAO... apk
"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted" - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)
See subject, that quote from chihowa & "EAT YOUR WORDS" chump... lol!
* :)
(Hosts results from my program run on any normal BSD derived IP stack bearing device is how - & using ADB (Android Debugging Bridge) one can use the PULL command to draw said resulting hosts file over to it... easily!)
APK
P.S.=> That's NOT a smiley face from me above - it's a SMIRK @ U - why? You SHOULD have known the above is why... apk
See subject & this link in that regards http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (R O T F L M A O) during Coren22's "APKolypse" http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...
* :)
(Chump trolls must be outta modpoints - but go on - keep blowing them... lol, I'LL RUN YOU DRY weak bitches!)
APK
P.S.=> That's just "what I do/how I roll" & RIGHT OVER YOU TROLLS with ease... apk
You need a PC to develop for them...
AIDE allows development of Android applications directly on an Android tablet with a USB, Bluetooth, or clip-on keyboard. After the discontinuation of netbooks, some people recommended pressing such a tablet into service as a substitute for a laptop.
"good luck with your hosts files once ad networks start randomizing their servers' hostnames for every hit using wildcard CNAME records" - by tepples (727027) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @06:06PM (#50998073)
See subject & until then, that's "phantasyland" theoreticals anyhow! Seems "desperate" when my naysayers always say "if THIS happens", well... when the sky falls, then chickenlittle should worry - but not until then!
Plus?
There's ALWAYS malware + botnet C&C servers hosts will block also!
IIRC, on your CNAME use note:
That's SORT OF what ClarityRay can do as well - randomize the adserver names (besides detect & block adblock users) - well, no biggie - my sources in the security community get those new adserver names as the pop up easily too. That's my point there.
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" Finally, and most relevantly to the article, good luck changing the hosts file on mobile devices without root privileges." - by tepples (727027) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @06:06PM (#50998073)
It's doable - plenty of folks do it or have phones that way already...
APK
P.S.=> There ya go... & besides - I told you already what my thoughts are on smartphones (they're toys)... apk
See subject: & I left another message for you to consider here too http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...
APK
P.S.=> Your thoughts, as always, are appreciated - oh, additionally (where are my manners? lol) - sorry for the late reply (had to make lunch & get "vino" for guests coming over for Thanksgiving)... apk
See subject CUZ COHEN22 works for UK mobile operator??????? and he STOLE my hosts file magic I INVENTED using the host file and this doin same technique
EAT ur werdz UK.....apk...apk
P.S. => I don't know why this then WORK on non-microsoft OPERATING systems cuz they rnt important
P.P.S. => cohen22 even admits EAT MY MOM that hosts file need admin privileges to edit, and this does not even require admin??? PROBABLY SUPER HAX
.....apk
P.MY.SELF. => On further review THEY are probably usin MY host file tool on their MICROSOFT WINDOWS routers which run the internet
....apk
well... when the sky falls, then chickenlittle should worry
In this model, I've spotted the pieces of camouflage that the aliens are assembling.
my sources in the security community get those new adserver names as the pop up easily too.
Not if they're like a328bc97.someadnetwork.example. Even eight hex digits would require four billion lines in a hosts file.
I am browsing some page. On that page an AD is playing some video content. My wife calls me to go to the store for whatever. I go and come back a few hours later, then I am engaged in eating what I bought. Eventually I get around to shutting my computer off, but while it was on YOUR AD was sucking MY bandwidth away on something I didn't even see. This is YOUR fault not mine, YOUR AD stole MY bandwidth, with absolutely NO benefit to me. One wonders why I am against ANY video advertisement. BAND WIDTH THIEF!!!!
See subject: Plus, there's always botnets & malicious sites to block too that hosts do GREAT on also!
APK
P.S.=> You guys can reach for "theoreticals" ALL DAY LONG, doesn't matter - I could say "but if a virus like in Terminator II pops up then no security is possible" so please, give me a break, lol... reality isn't phantasy & so far, you're fantasizing my man! apk
See subject: Says it all - hosts work vs. ads & malware/botnets, spam, trackers, etc. - et al & that's-that - it's reality, not fantasy theoreticals.
* I get a lot of that from troll 'naysayers' (anyone can do that, like I said - "What if there was a nanomachine based virus like in Terminator 2? There is no security then!" well, that hasn't happened yet either, so... there you are, by analogy)... I didn't expect it from you though.
APK
P.S.=> When you come RIGHT down to it tepples, that's what matters & the fact of the matter is I'm correct... apk
See subject - says it all - & if that's "the best ya got" ac troll weasels? You've got squat (& you KNOW it).
APK
P.S.=> It must really SUCK to be a worthless "ne'er-do-well" no balls scumbag like you... apk
See subject: ADB = Android Debugging Bridge software that works on PCs & using its PULL command is how.
APK
P.S.=> And there ya go... apk
See subject: Your weak attempt @ "impersonating" me proves my subject-line for me - but you do a poor job of it!
APK
P.S.=> This is the type of crap that truly lets me know I am doing well - when the troll naysayers have nothing but loony garbage to spew all over this site's pages no doubt out of frustration @ being unable to prove me validly technically wrong, AND from the fact they're jealous lazy "ne'er-do-wells" that are undereducated unskilled morons in computing... apk