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Windows 10 Fall Update Uninstalls Desktop Software Without Informing Users (ghacks.net)
ourlovecanlastforeve sends this report from Martin Brinkmann of gHacks: Microsoft's Windows 10 operating system may uninstall programs — desktop programs that is — from the computer after installation of the big Fall update that the company released earlier this month. I noticed the issue on one PC that I upgraded to Windows 10 Version 1511 but not on other machines. The affected PC had Speccy, a hardware information program, installed and Windows 10 notified me after the upgrade that the software had been removed from the system because of incompatibilities. There was no indication beforehand that something like this would happen, and what made this rather puzzling was the fact that a newly downloaded copy of Speccy would install and run fine on the upgraded system.
An IT Director I know had this happen with ESET antivirus as well, on multiple computers. He says fixes have been rolled out for both TH2 and the antivirus software to prevent this from happening. Other reports mention CPU-Z, AMD's Catalyst Control Center, and CPUID as software that's being automatically uninstalled.
Before you get your knickers in a bunch: this is most likely just a bug, not intentional. Microsoft pulled 1511 temporarily because it thinks it's doing a fresh install of Windows 10 or upgrade from a previous Windows - version instead of just being an update to an already-installed Windows 10 and ends up resetting some settings because of that, and Windows 10, when doing an upgrade from 7/8/8.1, does remove applications it thinks may be incompatible and/or interfere with the upgrade.
Vista had bloaty problems, but it was just a good reason to hold onto XP for a bit longer. Seven is a very good OS- apparently the last one. Eight and Eight-one have some mild spyware problems, but nothing intractable- mostly it's just their anti-user UI arrogance that got them a bad reception. Up until right near the end when Microsoft added all the spyware and really baked it in hard, everyone was expecting to go to Windows 10.
But Windows 10 is the worst thing ever, so nope.
Would that be the mild spyware that MS back ported to 7 so every one can take part in the game? Vista for all its faults, looking at you douchy ass 'super prefetch' that hammers the hard drive constantly, set the scene and technological platform for Windows 7 and arguably because of Vistas poor reception Win 7 by comparison looks better.
Either way we all know the best operating system MS made was Windows 2000. Going from 9x/ME was like riding a bike with only one wheel that was damaged to riding a bike with two squeaky wheels.
Microsoft have already stated that Windows 10 is last incarnation of the OS. There won't be another big OS launch, just minor changes over time.
Hello,
The problem with the Windows 10 Build 10586 (aka v1511, TH2) installer detecting versions of ESET's software that are compatible with Windows 10 as not being compatible has been fixed by Microsoft. Simply allow the installer to connect to the Internet for the latest updates and it will download an update that allows is to recognize all compatible versions of ESET's software.
Customers who were on the latest builds of ESET's software (v9.0.318 for consumer, v6.2.2033 for enterprise) were never affected by this, but customers who had older--but still Windows 10 compatible--builds did have there versions flagged when Build 10586 of Windows 10 was installed.
For more information, see the following E SET knowledgebase article: http://support.eset.com/kb3733...
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
Dexter is a good dog.
Having been with windows since win 3.11 (and the amiga os before that), I can honestly say this time is different.
Partially it's the stronger drive to a subscription model but mostly it's the spyware aspects of the new O/S.
A tablet or phone can probably do the same shit and get away with it but the PC is a PC. You are supposed to own it- it's not supposed to own you, spy on you, force installation of programs, block installation of programs and generally be owned by the company even tho you paid for it.
I could see dividing between a "serious" PC based on linux (which I've noodled with for the last six years) with a generic software stack that runs on multiple O/S. (Blender, GIMP, Libreoffice, Minecraft, etc.) and then a game machine which I don't use seriously, don't use for financial stuff, etc. But, as I play more boom beach (etc.) my motivation to have a PC for gaming has been declining. I'm more likely to use an inexpensive console for gaming.
8.0 was merely bad. Windows 10.0 is the devil.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
For me it didn't uninstall anything, it however screwed many settings in registry, e.g. keyboard layout and user specific settings. It seems like it "upgrades" by installing the ISO on background when restarting the computer once it's downloaded it.
I don't think Windows 10 in general is stable yet, for instance Start menu stops working sometimes, "Modern" apps stopped working (Calculator, Photo viewer etc.), Edge browser window does not appear anymore and Windows Update Settings does not open.
I get some of the features back if I create new Windows account, but not everything. It looks like I have to do clean install sometime in near future, what a wonderful upgrade.
Windows is hibernating. Your bootloader is still there, but you won't see it until you turn off fast startup or do a restart.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
This... It's being skipped because it's tied in with EUFI. Disable fast boot in system settings (it's somewhere in there, I don't know where but the question gets asked every single day on the various forums) and then, if it still isn't showing grub, boot to a live disk and run `sudo update-grub` and it will figure it out on its own. On the off-chance that it doesn't then get a copy of boot-repair and that should do it. If it *still* doesn't work then just edit the damned config file by hand, save it, and then run the update-grub command.
This question is asked so often that I, someone who doesn't even have Windows installed on anything other than a phone, know the answer to it - or at least where to find the answer. Google "dual boot Windows 10 and Linux" and you'll get step-by-step directions on the first page. Jump in at the correct place or use the search as a jump-off point and add the words repair, uefi, and swap out Linux for your distro of choice. I'm pretty sure you can have a Linux install that doesn't even *have* a live OS variant and still use a live disk from *any* vendor and `sudo update-grub` will still work.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."