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Dark Matter Grows Hair Around Stars and Planets (forbes.com)

StartsWithABang writes: Dark matter may make up 27% of the Universe's energy density, compared to just 5% of normal (atomic) matter, but in our Solar System, it's notoriously sparse. In particular, there's just a nanogram's worth per cubic kilometer, which makes the fact that we've never directly detected it seem inevitable. But recent work has demonstrated that Earth and all the planets leave a "wake" of dark matter where the density is enhanced by a billion times or more. Time to go put those dark matter detectors where they belong: in the path of these dark matter hairs.

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  1. Re:The dark matter between their ears by locofungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Remember, when the facts don't match your theory

    Correct. The facts don't match the theory. Galaxies could not hang together the way they do if all they consist of is the things we've already observed in the laboratory unless we change the law of gravity [to something enormously more complex - c.f. epicycles] or postulate the existence of something that interacts gravitationally but doesn't interact with light.

    too bad for the facts

    I don't get this. Nobody is ignoring the facts. That's why we need to change things. Dark matter is the heliocentric solution. No dark matter is the epicyclic solution.

    The [difference between facts and] theory is easily explained

    Don't know about easily. There's been a lot of "dark matter" theories that have fallen due to one or more inconsistencies with known physics.

    by an abundant (making up 96% of the universe),

    Necessary otherwise we have to change the theory of gravity

    invisible,

    If by invisible you mean doesn't interact with EM radiation then yes, this is required by the facts.

    undetectable

    It's not undetectable. If it were undetectable then we wouldn't need it. It's very detectable - its gravity is what makes galaxies hang together. Its gravity is what allows gravitational lensing to happen where there isn't any (visible) matter to make it happen.

    magic

    Definitely not magic. It has to agree with all the laws of physics. Conservation of momemtum, conservation of energy, speed of light etc.

    "dark matter"

    it's called dark matter because it doesn't interact with the EM spectrum. It neither emits EM radiation nor absorbs it.

    that is everywhere and affects everything.

    Actually, I think this is one of the great unknowns. Whether it's large numbers of light particles or smaller numbers of massive particles. Its primary interaction with the known universe is through gravity which yes, does affect everything, everywhere, at the speed of light.

    --
    God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = -@B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t," and there was light.
  2. Re:The dark matter between their ears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    no they aren't. they have observations that don't match the math calculations and they are trying to account for it. just like right before the theory of relativity. they thought there was and extra planet due to unexplained observations in the orbit of the planets that didn't match the math

  3. Re:The dark matter between their ears by PaulMattSutter · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dark matter isn't a case of "fact vs. theory", but "fact vs. fact". We have multiple methods of determining the mass of galaxies and galaxy clusters. One method - counting all the light-emitting stuff - gives a certain number, and all other methods (rotation curves, gas kinematics, gravitational lensing, large-scale structure analysis, and more) give a much higher number. Two possible conclusions: 1) Our understanding of gravity is wrong, or 2) There is a new component of the universe that does not interact with light. Option 1) fails a lot of tests: if you try to make solutions for gravity for certain systems, it doesn't work for others. Option 2) has a solution called "dark matter", a new weakly-interacting massive particle that explains almost all the observations (it's not 100% perfect, but it does much better than the changing-gravity option).

    At the same time that all this was happening in cosmology, our particle physics friends were developing extensions to the Standard Model. In many theories they predicted new kinds of particle: ones that just happened to have a lot of the right kind of properties that the cosmologists needed for dark matter. Voila.

    Dark matter is the simplest, most parsimonious, most elegant known solution that fits the observational data.

    Source: I'm an astrophysicist and I do a podcast, and one of my first episodes was on exactly this.

  4. Re:Dark Matter = Closet Aether Theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Thing is, Aether was meant to be an "anchor" - a selected reference frame for movement of light. Meaning it to be directly, firmly bound to EM radiation, an essential concept related to electromagnetic waves.

    Sort of correct. However, you are interpreting things from the SR/GR viewpoint, which makes your statement somewhat revisionist. Aether theories were diverse and plentiful, but you are perhaps focusing on the one that Maxwell would have implied.

    Dark Matter is completely oblivious to Electromagnetic spectrum, specifically entirely ignores it.

    How does that quote go: reality is that which continues to be, even when you stop believing it? You can ignore reality, but reality will not ignore you :)

    It might be some kind of aether, some field that is a source of gravity, that is fixed in space and has its own specific frame of reference. But it's definitely not what was discussed as the Aether in times when Einstein disproved it.

    Einstein never "disproved" any interpretation of Aether. In fact, he was quite happy to map the concept to his findings... though statements made by him regarding "Aether" tend to be ignored by those who subscribe to QM. You should remember that Einstein was never happy with the non-physical meddling from the likes of Bohr or Heisenberg: "God does not play dice!" He knew instinctively that their theories being un-grounded from reality meant they were heuristic only, that they can only be used to model effects and not describe the underlying causes. This caused a shift in the scientific mindset that we must pursue the math at any cost to theory, i.e. the Feynman (mathematical purist) school of thought.

    However, you do make a good point. If we continue to think of this field as some sort of fixed frame of reference, an absolute "grid" that we can graph ourselves against, we will continue to make zero progress. Such a field is probably a lot more fluid and less "fixed" than historically thought, and that the MM experiment should by definition be a null result.

    If the MM experiment found light moving relative to another field, that would be the actual evidence needed to pursue the current theories. However, the MM experiment proved that light is also being dragged, producing the null result. This has been interpreted perfectly backwards, leading to the current mindset.

    You see, since Earth is moving through space at high speeds, and if there was no drag, a laser beam (the photons, actually) should effectively miss whatever they were aimed at. The longer the distance, the larger the miss. Since even laser light tends not to miss targets at all, even at distances as large as to the Moon and back, the photons must be experiencing momentum. This momentum can be interpreted as a drag by an underlying field, or it can also be used to prove that photons do have rest mass, albeit minuscule and currently beyond our detection... and perhaps permanently beyond our detection since the mainstream interpretations have already drawn the conclusion that they must be mass-less particles that exhibit energy-mass, only.

    So now you have two logical conclusions from the MM experiment: there is an Aether field of sorts, or photons do have rest mass. However, the null result cannot support the current theories in any way, shape or form as they directly contradict the premises of those theories. Also, this does not imply that the aforementioned two conclusions are the only two available, only that the current standard conclusions are logically flawed and must be incorrect. Although, based on the history of QM, reinterpreting the logical conclusions of MM to retroactively fit their theories is only an ad-hoc hybridization wave of a mathematical-wand away. See! Isn't it glorious when you decouple yourself from the ickiness of reality :)

    Different interactions, different properties, an entirely different cup of tea -

  5. Re:The dark matter between their ears by Bengie · · Score: 4, Informative

    You have that backwards. They're modifying theory to match the facts. They've tried to ignore darkmatter for nearly 100 years, but they can't get rid of it. The more information we get, the more real it becomes. It has reached a point in science where the numbers are slapping us in the face, saying, "STOP IGNORING ME!"