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Contractors or Not, Seattle Uber Drivers Might Get Collective Bargaining

The Seattle Times reports on a development in Seattle that might have implications for other cities with contentious relationships with transportation coordinating services like Uber. Seattle councilman Mike O'Brien has proposed a system under which drivers for Lyft, Uber, and similar companies would be represented in collective bargaining agreements with the companies they do work for. The proposal would require taxi companies, for-hire vehicle companies and app-based ride-dispatch companies, including Uber and Lyft, to negotiate agreements with drivers on issues such as payment and working conditions. The approach would be novel because of the drivers’ employment status. The National Labor Relations Act gives employees, but not independent contractors, the right to bargain as a union. ... Under O’Brien’s plan, a nonprofit organization would need to show support from a majority of a company’s drivers to be designated by the city as their bargaining representative. The organization would use a list of drivers provided by the company.

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  1. Fun uber fact by ickleberry · · Score: 3, Funny

    Uber secretly hates its drivers, and is dieing to replace them with bots. Its founding members can't wait until the day Uber becomes a fully autonomous moneymaking machine and they can live a life of endless hedonism on the Bahamas while being fed a constant supply of effortless funds

    1. Re:Fun uber fact by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You misspelled "all companies" and "employees" in that paragraph.

  2. Yep, Unions do nothing by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    except for the increased wages by bringing strike pressure to bear. Oh, and they make sure you can strike without fear of reprisal and with enough food/money to survive a strike. Oh, and then there's the better benefits from the bargaining. Then there's enforcing worker safety when OSHA can't or won't. Then There's protecting workers from age discrimination. Then there's ensuring workers get trained instead of paying for their own training out of pocket.

    You know, you're right. Unions have done about as much for the working man as the Romans did for those guys from Monty Python.

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    1. Re:Yep, Unions do nothing by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

      except for the increased wages by bringing strike pressure to bear.

      Totally vaporized and then some by the overhead of the union.

      Unions get enough extra to thrive themselves, over time the union leaders care nothing for the workers but only for personal income to grow the union - to the extent they do not care if they kill the host they are attached to, putting many out of work.

      At least that's how it has played out so far over the last few decades. Why is there any reason to think it will alter for Uber? There is none.

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    2. Re:Yep, Unions do nothing by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's a list of some of the things we can thank unions for:

              Weekends
              All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
              Paid Vacation
              FMLA
              Sick Leave
              Social Security
              Minimum Wage
              Civil Rights Act/Title VII (Prohibits Employer Discrimination)
              8-Hour Work Day
              Overtime Pay
              Child Labor Laws
              Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
              40 Hour Work Week
              Worker's Compensation (Worker's Comp)
              Unemployment Insurance
              Pensions
              Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations
              Employer Health Care Insurance
              Collective Bargaining Rights for Employees
              Wrongful Termination Laws
              Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
              Whistleblower Protection Laws
              Employee Polygraph Protect Act (Prohibits Employer from using a lie detector test on an employee)
              Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
              Compensation increases and Evaluations (Raises)
              Sexual Harassment Laws
              Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
              Holiday Pay
              Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance
              Privacy Rights
              Pregnancy and Parental Leave
              Military Leave
              The Right to Strike
              Public Education for Children
              Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 (Requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work)
              Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States

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    3. Re:Yep, Unions do nothing by turbidostato · · Score: 3, Funny

      All right... all right... but apart from that, what have the Romans done for us?

  3. Pro or Anti union by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whether you are pro or anti union, you shouldn't deny workers the right to organize.
    Being able to stand together as a counter-balance to the power of the company is kind of important, whether they choose to take advantage of that right or not.

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  4. Re:What year do you think this is? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Informative

    >> We busted up the mob years ago. They've got nothing to do with Unions now.

    You must not live near Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Philly, etc. or take a close look at who's involved in the pension plans then.

    e.g., http://deadline.com/2015/09/mo...