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How Technology Is Increasing the Number of Jobs We Have (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader writes: An article at The Guardian takes a look at the way in which we hold jobs as technology as changes. Its central thesis is this: "My father had one job in his life, I've had six in mine, my kids will have six at the same time." This may compress the generational changes a bit, but it's an interesting point; the average time people spend at one job has been trending downward for a long time. As technology enables the so-called "gig economy" (or "sharing economy," if you prefer), we're seeing many more people start to hold multiple jobs, working whichever one happens to give them something to do at a given time. Economist Jeremy Rifkin says, "This sharing economy is reestablishing the commons in a hi-tech landscape. Commons came about when people formed communities by taking the meager resources they had and sharing then to create more value. The method of regulation of these systems is also comparable. If people are trusted and vouched for they are accepted as part of the sharing economy group. If they behave badly they are excluded. Your social capital means everything in this new economy."

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  1. At what point do we reevaluate the position by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And at what point can we reevaluate this and say "six jobs at one time is not a job, it's being taken advantage of". If everyone is complicit in it then it's nothing but being taken advantage of by mob mentality.

    I hardly find that reassuring.

    1. Re: At what point do we reevaluate the position by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

      You ended up in the gulag right along with the rightists you helped to put there.

      Last June, I was in Sweden and Finland. I looked for gulags and couldn't find any. Maybe they hide them under all the hospitals and universities that are free for everyone.

      In the good old USA, on the other hand...

      http://www.activistpost.com/20...

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    2. Re: At what point do we reevaluate the position by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What about a mere statistical majority of white population makes a country "racist" again? Has it gotten to the point that being white in and of itself makes you a racist now? Sounds like racism.

    3. Re: At what point do we reevaluate the position by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Informative

      Which land is it that's completely inhabited by whites only? It's not the one that Stockholm's in.

      Fun facts about Sweden: Nationally, about 10% of the population are immigrants or at least one of their parents was. In the greater Stockholm metro, it's more like 25%. Here in my suburb, it's about 60%. And to the best of my knowledge, Sweden's never had anything like the White Australia programme.

      Sweden is not perfect, and racism does exist here, but they generally don't let people starve or freeze or die from lack of medical attention, either, regardless of colour or national origin.

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    4. Re: At what point do we reevaluate the position by careysub · · Score: 4, Informative

      How about you keep your work output and pay your expenses, I keep my work output and pay my expenses? That way we don't have to shuffle people's money around and worry about fairness.

      Because then you have a fragmented, private insurance system attempting to dump risks and costs on externalities, which shuffles peoples money around. And when that happens you have to pay double for your health care. I am sure you love being overcharged 100%, because FREEDOM!

      Also, clearly the decline in lifespan for lower end of the Middle Class (not the poor), a unique event for any advanced country, due to high medical costs is just hunky-dory with you. Watching your less well off fellow Americans (remember that old idea, civic-mindedness?) die young is terrific because FREEDOM!

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  2. Translation: People are Getting Desperate by mbone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People who are working six jobs at once are unlikely to feel secure about their financial and social position. The people I actually know in the "gig economy" are doing it out of some combination of insecurity and desperation. If this is really the future, look for extreme political instability in our country.

  3. Nothing New - not very smart by Casualposter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Forget for a moment that the sharing economy is based upon some very wrong assumptions about human nature - things that any parent can tell you are not a normal part of human nature, and focus upon the inspiration for this new economic model - Feudal Europe, the village commons, the Great Depression. Nothing in the article is hopeful or progressive - it's all been done before by desperate people trying very hard not to starve to death. How many jobs did people have during the Great Depression? Lots. They just lumped them all together and said "We did what we had to do to survive." This is just another rich asshole's version of "you are poor because you are lazy - now get another low paying job." This goes completely away if wages are required to be livable.

    The concept of the Sharing economy is stupid at its core. This "panacea" is ignoring the basic human territoriality regarding property. Children have to be FORCED to share. They will throw a temper tantrum when required to share. Adults are little different. Smoother, less prone to emotional outbursts and more prone to murder than toddlers. The idea of a "sharing" economy is as dumb as any other Utopian vision that makes assumptions contrary to human nature. Every sharing economy is based upon an outside requirement - men with weapons making unarmed peasants work the land in the Feudal "Sharing Economy." Starvation in the Great Depression. Otherwise, people revert to their nature of territoriality over property.

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  4. The Opposite by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The summary states "The average time people spend at one job has been trending downward for a long time.
    but the site that is linked to this statement http://www.marketwatch.com/sto... shows the opposite: it says the average time people spend at one job has been slowly trending upward, rising from 3.5 years in 1983 to 4.6 years in 2012, the last year for which figures are available.

    The article linked seems to think that the upward trend is significant, but I think it's easily explained. Younger workers change jobs more frequently, and hence the length of time spent at a job increases as a worker gets older (according to the same site, "Over half of workers age 55 to 64 and those age 65 and over had 10 years or more of tenure in 2012, compared with fewer than 10% of workers in their 20s and 30s."). So that upward trend is just the demographic bulge (the "baby boomers") getting older. I expect that number to drop when more of the baby boomers retire, and the people who started working in the 2000s start making up more of the workers surveyed.

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  5. Change is inevitable by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And at what point can we reevaluate this and say "six jobs at one time is not a job, it's being taken advantage of".

    It's not being taken advantage of. It's called being a freelancer. There is lots of work in the world that does not require being in a single place for 40+ hours each week. Just because it is different doesn't mean it is worse or that you are being taken advantage of. I've held as many as 3-4 "jobs" at a given time. It's normal if you are a freelancer.

    I don't pretend to know what the future will look like but the one thing I'm certain of is that it won't look like today. The job market your parents had isn't the one you will have and the one your kids will have will be different still. Get used to it.

  6. Technology has nothing to do with it by Vermonter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason your dad (or grandfather) likely held the same job his entire life is because 50 years ago, employers were invested in, and took care of, their employees. My grandfather worked for GE his entire life (outside his time in WWII), and it wasn't because there weren't other jobs he could have gone to. They offered him a pension, which you just cannot find anymore. Today you get crappy health care, and if you're lucky a 3% pay raise every year, and if you are high enough on the ladder, a Christmas bonus that actually means anything. Employers just don't invest in employees like they used to.

  7. Re:As technology enables... ??? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not technology which is driving people to having six jobs in a lifetime. It's greedy fucking corporations laying off loyal workers at the drop of a dime. "Oh no, quarterly profits are down a tenth of a percent. Lay off 25% of those bottom-line-sucking employees!".

    Followed by the executives saying "We've saved $10 million so let's give ourselves $11 million raises. Oh no, we're in the red again. Time for more layoffs!"

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  8. Re:False sense of security by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Welcome to being an entrepreneur. You want time off? You earn enough to take some time. You want work/life balance? You earn it. Sometimes getting there requires working pretty hard for a while. You talk about work/life balance as if it is something you are entitled to have rather than something you earn. There's nothing wrong with working for someone else but very few people can earn a substantial income without a lot of time, effort and risk."

    A freelancer is hardly a true entrepreneur. A freelancer is effectively an employee without benefits. Freelancers are capped by the market rates for staff plus the cost of providing them benefits. This is quite different than truly being an entrepreneur making the value of what he is producing. There is a huge gap between the market rate for labor and the market value of a laborers output... if there weren't nobody would hire employees or entrepreneurs. Actual entrepreneurs are exploiting this to make a profit on the work of others without adding value themselves (at least not beyond the value of any one of the workers) and they absolutely owe those workers benefits.

    60% of business ventures fail and most of the ones that don't fail aren't profitable in the first five years. You better have one hell of a safety net to be taking that kind of roll of the dice. It does depend on the business of course but the only ones I know of that significantly improve that outlook are effectively just employment opportunities minus benefits.