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Court: 'Repugnant' Online Discussions Aren't Thoughtcrime (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The U.S. 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals has issued a ruling in favor of former NYPD officer Gilberto Valle — the so-called "cannibal cop." In 2012, Valle was fired and arrested for going online and talking about his fantasies, which included kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, and cannibalism. He was later convicted in a jury trial. A district court judge overturned the conviction, but the government appealed, hoping to make it stick. The Appeals Court has now affirmed Valle's acquittal. In the ruling (PDF), the court notes, "We are loathe to give the government the power to punish us for our thoughts and not our actions. That includes the power to criminalize an individual's expression of sexual fantasies, no matter how perverse or disturbing. Fantasizing about committing a crime, even a crime of violence against a real person whom you know, is not a crime." The court also addressed the government's questionable efforts to use the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to increase the severity of Valle's punishment: "While the Government might promise that it would not prosecute an individual for checking Facebook at work, we are not at liberty to take prosecutors at their word in such matters."

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  1. Someone should tell our AG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  2. Re:Umm...ok! by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually planning a crime is a criminal action. It's called "conspiracy to commit" and people get put in jail for it.

  3. Re:Thank you judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If all judges were this sensible, then those who want to imprison people for "climate change denial" will be thwarted.

    All zero people.

    Well probably not quite zero, there's enough people in the world that there's probably one nutjob who says something like that. I'll bet you can't find a remotely significant number of people with such views.

    Crawl out from under that rock, because you're WRONG:

    Read a US Senator (Democrat, natch) call for bringing RICO charges against climate deniers.

    More here: Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

    And here: Is misinformation about the climate criminally negligent?

    More: Al Gore Blasts GOP Climate Deniers, Thom Hartmann Says Throw Them in Jail

    Let’s give up on academic freedom in favor of justice

    Death Penalty for Global Warming Deniers?

    WTF? DEATH PENALTY?!?!?!

    Yes indeed - death penalty. And he's not alone:

    Climate “Deniers” Must Be Jailed or Killed

    What States' Attorneys General Can Do About Climate Deniers (Hard to believe the Kennedy clan has fallen that far - JFK tried to depose a Communist dictator instead of sucking up to him...)

  4. Our esteemed Attorney General may disagree by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Informative

    AG Loretta Lynch was just explaining that if people use unpleasant rhetoric about Muslims, the Department of Justice would "go after them." She also told Muslim parents that if their kids are bullied at school, they should call the DoJ immediately.

    You know, not talk to the principal, or local law enforcement, no. Call the federal government.

    No mention other people being bullied, of course.

    So watch that rhetoric, people! The Obama administration just said they feel they have the power to "go after you" if you're found being ... mean? Insensitive?

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