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Hillary Clinton Urges Silicon Valley To 'Disrupt' ISIS

HughPickens.com writes: The NYT reports that Hillary Clinton spoke at the Brookings Institution's annual Saban Forum on Sunday and said that the Islamic State had become "the most effective recruiter in the world" and that the only solution is to engage American technology companies in blocking or taking down militants' websites, videos and encrypted communications. "We need to put the great disrupters at work at disrupting ISIS. We need Silicon Valley not to view government as its adversary. We need to challenge our best minds in the private sector and work with our best minds in the public sector to develop solutions that would both keep us safe and protect our privacy," said Clinton. "We should take the concerns of law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals seriously. They have warned that impenetrable encryption may prevent them from accessing terrorist communications and preventing a future attack. On the other hand we know there are legitimate concerns about government intrusion, network security, and creating new vulnerabilities that bad actors can and would exploit."

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  1. Re:And who decides what speach is incorrect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Clinton the arms dealer. She also lied and tried to cover up this as well and had to resubmit her tax returns after she got caught. So not only did she sell arms for donations allowing people to skip State Department reviews, she failed to report the bribes on her taxes as well.

    I think it says a lot about the DNC when she is their candidate of choice.

  2. Re: "the most effective recruiter in the world" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Maybe y'all should stop bombing civilians over there. It doesn't take much to "radicalize" somebody whose family was killed by American bombs.

    Moron. The stated goal of ISIS is a global caliphate governed by Sharia law implemented by the sword.

  3. Re:Did she just call for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, she called for all the companies to backdoor their encryption. If anyone steps up, then the government praises them and pats them on the head and gives them contracts and starves the competition. If no one steps up then they start passing laws to ban encryption. "I tried to talk with them rationally, but they kept on allowing math to happen, leaving me no choice but to bring out my men with guns!"

    This is dog whistle for "do what I say or else". Obviously this means Hillary is a bad choice for president, but she's smugly aware that there's no good choice.

    Under Bill, they almost pushed through clipper / capstone, backdoored encryption where the government gets a master key and you get a slave key. This is more of the same.

    None of this would be justified if all the terrorist attacks recently had been coordinated over encrypted messages using mainstream products. But instead, none of it was- it was all plain text or face to face. This is all about making it so that encryption is harder to get- the idea that ios 8+ and new androids will be encrypted in place by default is making them panic.

  4. Re: "the most effective recruiter in the world" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If that were the only thing, muslims would be rising up against ISIS, because ISIS kills many more civilians than the US. And not accidentally: they kill them in brutal ways, on purpose. This is good reading, too.

    The vast majority of Muslims don't want to kill Americans, and the vast majority of Americans don't want to kill Muslims (other than daesh). We're happy to live in peace.

  5. Re:keep HER safe and protect HER privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anybody who has been paying attention has known for a long time that the Turks have been buying ISIS oil and that they could starve them of money if they wanted. However the Turks love ISIS because they fuck up the Kurds, and the Turks hate the Kurds almost as much as they hate the Armenians who they slaughtered by the millions so they'll keep supporting ISIS as long as they continue to fuck up the Kurds. Since Turkey is a major NATO ally and is uniquely positioned to bottle up the only warm water ports the Russians have the USA is not going to do shit to the Turks and only make completely ineffectual measures against ISIS that Turkey is cool with. So we'll send a drone off to murder a wedding party here, drop a bomb on a goat there, and every once in a while spend $millions to Hellfire the shit out of some barren patch of desert there because arms merchants needs to gets paid. Basically the same old shit we've been doing since 2001.

  6. Re:Buying votes by dbIII · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you don't think ISIS is a construct of US meddling with the middle-east

    Consequence not construct. The roots were in Saudi Arabia with the rich sending money for "the struggle" and Turkey wanting something to counter the Kurds. Add in a large group of people locked out of the US funded government in Iraq and all it took was a match to blow up. So fuckup and not paying attention to actions of backstabbing allies instead of a deliberate construction. Yet another spectacular failure of spooks playing at being toy soldiers. The thing that boogles me the most is ISIL/ISIS/Daash were and most likely still are exporting large amounts of oil despite having skies full of opposing fighters and bombers.

  7. Re:Trump is front and center by dbIII · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can name several things Donald has said in the last 3 months, none of which are without merit or irrational

    An effective trick is to state problems but not solutions.
    If you do not believe in magic it's best to avoid those that employ that trick.

    So there you go, something to watch out for and how someone can say something that is perfectly true but completely and utterly useless.

  8. Re:keep HER safe and protect HER privacy by ganjadude · · Score: 1, Informative

    and thats how we got this mess we got obama "because hes black" not becauser of his record (he didnt have one) or his experience (didnt have that either)

    people who vote based on race and gender... are racist and sexist...yet for some reason, they project that onto those who disagree with them

    --
    have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
  9. Re:This is all well and good by tlambert · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hedy Lamarr -- Frequency hopping and spread spectrum

    Agnes Meyer Driscoll -- developed the "Communications Machine" or "CM", the standard cypher machine used by the U.S. Navy for a time; she also broke JN-25, the post Perl Harbor Japanese fleet operational code.

    Elizebeth Friedman -- sometimes credited as the first female American codebreaker -- broke a Mandarin Chinese code used in the opium trade, as well as a number of codes used by bootleggers in the prohibition era, and went on to design some of the security measuers still in place at the IMF (International Monetary Fund).

    Maureen Baginski -- Signals Intelligence Director during the 2011 attacks on the U.S.; worked at the NSA

    Mary "Polly" Budenbach -- directed the NSA's "Technical Consultants organization.

    Wilma Davis -- mathematician who broke Italian diplomatic codes in the 1930's, Japanese Army code messages in WWII, worked on the Chinese team for a while, and then moved on to "Venoa", a covert group tasked with breaking Soviet messages.

    Minnie Kenny -- Directed the National Cryptologic School for the DoD and NSA; if you think the fact of her genetalia is significant (you shouldn't), you will also be surprised that she was black.

    Ann Caracristi -- one of the people responsible for applying the (then new) computational technology to signals intelligence within the NSA; established the first laboratory for doing so.

    Genevieve Grotjan Feinstein -- worked with the SIS (Signal Intelligence Service) as a cryptanalyst reading Japanese diplomatic messages; make the breakthrough that resulted in the creation of an analog computer to read the Japanese "Purple" code.

    Joan Daemen -- Rijndael

    Shafi Goldwasser -- zero knowledge proofs used in asymmetric key algorithms ...

    That's doing about 5 minutes worth of looking, and omitting about half of what I found.

  10. Re:If all it takes by khallow · · Score: 2, Informative

    John Stewart did a frightening but very insightful sketch drawing direct comparisons between the American Tea Party and the Taliban. It was funny and chilling at the same time.

    Not at all. Why should I find the rule of law, reduction of the extent and power of the US federal government, or responsible fiscal policy to be something to fear? This reminds me of Vox Day's three rules, behavior exhibited by someone incapable of understanding certain contrary beliefs or viewpoints and imbued with a certain passive aggressive behavior:

    1) Always lie.
    2) Always double down.
    3) Always project.

    We see all three behaviors exhibited here. Core beliefs of the Tea Party movement have long been advertised and it is well known that there are non-religious members. So why not only lie that the Tea Party is only about religious beliefs and then double down by comparing the resulting Tea Party strawman to the Taliban with a woodenly delivered list of negative attributes that are to some degree shared by the not particularly self-aware, Stewart?

    These are immature behaviors of someone who lacks wisdom not something to respect.

    There are lots of people of all sorts of beliefs and ideologies who are concerned about government overreach, such as NSA spying, extending globally the stranglehold of excessive IP protection, and feeling people up at US airports. At some point, if you aren't a complete fool, you have to realize that the religious aren't your enemies, they are your neighbors, your friends and relatives, and your natural political allies on some really important issues.

    The Tea Party is not a reenactment of the Handmaiden's Tale. It's in response to some serious problems that threaten the future of the US. I believe we should wonder why so many people are working so hard to discredit them on such flimsy pretexts.

  11. almost... by slew · · Score: 5, Informative

    FWIW, I think Joan Daemen might object to your classification of him as a famous woman (unless you were going for the minority designation with him as someone from Belgium).

  12. Re: Code for Encryption Backdoors, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to General Alexander, somewhere in the 50's, but according to the people who audit it none.
    The two attacks Alexander revealed details of, one was caught by traditional means, the other was an FBI pseudo terrorist where the primary plotter, bomb supplier etc. was FBI.

    That's the other issue here, not only did they do mass surveillance without democratic consent or legal permission, they continue to act outside of any checks and balances.