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Paris Climate Change Talks Yield First Draft (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Negotiators at the UN climate talks in Paris released a draft of an agreement to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions. No part of the draft has been finalized as many points remain in contention, particularly between developing countries and more wealthy nations. Laurence Tubiana, the French envoy for the talks, said: "We could have been better, we could have been worse. The job is not done, we need to apply all intelligence, energy, willingness to compromise and all efforts to come to agreement. Nothing is decided until everything is decided."
You can argue that the western Industrial Revolution kicked off the CO2 rise, but these days with static or negative population growth the 'wealthy' or 'developed' nations aren't the problem; it's the 3rd world shitholes like India, China, and places in Africa where they have zero environmental regulations and/or burn firewood that are messing things up now.
Aren't we done with White Man's Burden?
I actually did take the time to look at it, and nope, no nuclear. Just a bunch of vague pie-in-the-sky bullshit. No real practical solutions, just repeating that man-made climate is bad and we must do something about it (the "something" being unspecified). Just some meaningless bullshit for countries that will affirm it wholeheartedly, but actually *do* fuck all.
Be it resolved that bad things are bad and good things are good.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
China has 2363 coal power plants, and is building or has in plan 1171 more. That does not sound like a country reducing its CO2 emmissions (like the US where emissions are declining).
India has 589, and is building or has in plan 446 more.
If you would like a detailed report with references on China's energy politics and activity, go here:
http://www.thegwpf.org/new-report-the-truth-about-china/
You think China is the largest investor in renewables, they are also the biggest burner of coal and importer of oil.
So what?
Third, we still don't have actual evidence that there is a serious problem. We just have, yet again, strongly worded assertions. It really should be a warning sign to everyone when the people pushing this aggressive strategy can't back their claims with facts.
That's the real tough part about it... By the time we know for sure what will happen, it'd be too late. The risk is just SO HIGH that most scientists recommend playing it safe. Humanity could have a tough time surviving if we get into the "runaway climate change" scenario. Will that happen if the global temperature goes up 1 degree C? 10?
Aside from all that though, poison ivy grows faster with more CO2. Eeks. Just another reason to stay in my basement.
Nations that have debt have no wealth.
No, it doesn't work that way. While it is worth noting that there is a staggering amount of irresponsible and stupid borrowing at the level of the state, they are able to get away with that because of the wealth of the societies they represent and which they can tap. Even a country like Greece has considerable wealth left. And if they were to reform their governments and societies, that wealth would come forth.
What wealthy nations? All western governments are deep in debt..
One man is on the street and has nothing.
Another man lives in a house with a mortgage with negative equity and drives a car in which he is upside down on the loan.
Which one is poorer?
I'm not making a point, I think it is a legitimate question and the answer is not an easy one. But it certainly is relatable to nations and debt.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.