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Microsoft Offers Linux Certification. Yes, Really. (dice.com)

Nerval's Lobster writes: Former CEO Steve Ballmer once publicly referred to Linux as a 'cancer.' Not content to just let Ballmer blow up about it, company also spent a good deal of money and legal effort on claiming that open-source software violated its patents. A decade ago, the idea of Microsoft creating a Linux certification would have seemed like lunacy. But now that very thing has come to pass, (Dice link) with the Microsoft Certified Solutions Associate (MCSA) Linux on Azure certification, designed in conjunction with the Linux Foundation. Earning the Linux on Azure certification requires tech pros to pass Microsoft Exam 70-533 (Implementing Microsoft Azure Infrastructure Solutions) as well as the Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator (LFCS) exam, which collectively require knowledge of Linux and Azure implementation. Microsoft evidently recognizes that open-source technology increasingly powers the cloud and mobile, and that it needs to play nice with the open-source community if it wants to survive and evolve.

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  1. Not your father's Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're seemingly doing everything right, expect for Windows 10 spying. Heck, even their HW is good now (Remember Zune, Ballmer's brainchild?)

    1. Re:Not your father's Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To be fair, their peripherals were always top notch and the zune got way more flak than it deserved.

    2. Re:Not your father's Microsoft by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 3, Funny

      "They're seemingly doing everything right, expect for Windows 10 spying."

      That's like saying "my son is doing a great job living a life of good morals, ... except for those rapes".

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    3. Re:Not your father's Microsoft by Adriax · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, and that may be the forgotten lesson the new CEO is embracing. Even if you have really good, if not the best, of something in a sea of competition, if you try to force a monoculture you are going to drive people away.

      Windows didn't require a microsoft brand mouse in order to function and they still made a hefty profit on both hardware and software.
      But the times they did require a monocultire, like C#/.NET for most of its life, they found a lot of people just walked away and stuck to arguably inferior products.

      Just look at hololens, their big ball of holyshitthisisawesome. They have competition in the hardware department already, but they're helping asus instead of trying to block them. Now there's going to be two AR headsets running windows 10 instead of an all microsoft one and a competitor that would probably run a custom linux.

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    4. Re:Not your father's Microsoft by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and that may be the forgotten lesson the new CEO is embracing. Even if you have really good, if not the best, of something in a sea of competition, if you try to force a monoculture you are going to drive people away.

      Not even that, just trying to push your product into a saturated market period, and hoping that throwing enough money at it somehow improves your chances of gaining consumer mindshare.

      The only reason xbox worked was because Nintendo was giving the middle finger to third party developers, while Sega failed to gain interest of third party developers, leaving just Sony, giving Microsoft room to be a second platform in the rule of three. Nintendo and Sega both ate shit that generation because when it comes to programming platforms, there's really a rule of two, because you're not just dealing with consumer adoption, you're dealing with third party developer adoption, and developers (especially smaller ones and upstarts) have little tolerance second platforms, and even less tolerance for distant third platforms.

      Likewise, Windows Phone won't ever make it, no matter how much money Microsoft throws at it (besides, it really does suck anyways.)

    5. Re:Not your father's Microsoft by flacco · · Score: 2

      I have seen many attempts in public forums suggesting that Microsoft "has changed" and to otherwise rehabilitate its image.

      "Seemingly doing everything right [except] for Windows 10 spying." Oh, is that all? Forcibly installing surveillance software on its users' hardware, and unsetting explicitly set privacy settings in the process? Is that all?

      Yes, Microsoft has great respect for its user base, and is seemingly doing everything right.

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  2. Untapped Market For MS by avandesande · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They could make a killing selling support for a Linux distribution . Lots of IT people are locked into Microsoft as a vendor and this would give them a good option.

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    1. Re:Untapped Market For MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I dunno why it irritates you. If you actually RTFA, you'd know the second component of the Linux on Azure cert is a Linux Foundation sysadmin certification, so it isn't just an Azure cert.

    2. Re:Untapped Market For MS by PCM2 · · Score: 5, Informative

      But if all you wanted was the Linux cert, you could just call the Linux Foundation and get that. So yes, it is really just an Azure cert bundled with (I assume) a discounted Linux Foundation cert.

      Makes sense. As I understand it, the vast majority of workloads on Azure are running Linux.

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  3. Year of the Linux desktop! by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can imagine the day when Windows is built on top of Linux, similar to how MacOS is built on top of BSD. That will be the year of the Linux desktop!

    Maybe in 2020, Windows version 12.

    1. Re:Year of the Linux desktop! by halivar · · Score: 2
    2. Re:Year of the Linux desktop! by nawcom · · Score: 2

      The Mac OS X / NeXTSTEP kernel is called XNU - did you even read the Wikipedia article you gave the link to? Darwin is the open source OS that functions as the backend for OS X and iOS that provides the core components.

    3. Re:Year of the Linux desktop! by halivar · · Score: 2

      The GP is correct, and you're correct. So WTF are you arguing about? It's based on NeXTSTEP and BSD, as is plainly stated in the article. Besides, the entire web of core components that Mac OSX is built on: NeXSTEP, Mach, OpenBSD; all of them are tied somehow to BSD. It's in all of it.

  4. Maybe they will spin off the Windows division by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe Microsoft will one day spin-off the Windows division, so it becomes just another operating system that their cloud service supports. If they start writing their services to use .NET, then they could use Roslyn and .NET Core to make all their services portable. One could run IIS or Exchange on Linux. If it meant more sales for Azure, they could profit from it.

  5. Re:Would *you* trust a MS Linux certification? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Welcome to your first Microsoft Linux Certification class. Today we're going to learn about the command line.

    The first command we will try is

    sudo rm -rf /

    Please try it now.

    Good job. The course is over. You are now all Certified.

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  6. Re:Great! by PCM2 · · Score: 2

    Great, now IBM's Watson has a /. account.

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  7. Re:Too little, too late by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now I manage a windows environment. It's all 2012R2 and with server manager, core/minimal, DSC, and powershell. I honestly really enjoy it and find it to be a perfectly fine solution.

    Seriously. If half the whiners would just learn Powershell and try managing some actual, modern Windows servers, I'm sure they'd go, "Huh! Whaddaya know." In some sense, modern Windows Server is kind of like C#, in that Microsoft learned from the competition, took its ideas, polished them up, and put its own spin on them. Nothing really wrong with that, if your chief concern is getting work done and not just arguing on the interwebs.

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  8. Just got my MS BCCT by sinij · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just got my MS BCCT (Balmer-certified chair thrower) certification. Who wants to hire me?

  9. Increasingly? by DeathElk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Increasingly? INCREASINGLY?? Open source isn't "increasingly" powering Internet services, IT'S BEEN THE BENCHMARK SINCE DARPA. FFS, Microsoft was the cancer, trying to force proprietary standards down everyones throat.

  10. Re:In other news... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

    "For business use, it must support the latest version, which it does not"

    That's ridiculous. Very few businesses require the most recent version. Most could do with one from two releases back. Very few people are pushing Office to limits, such that they can only get what they need using the latest version. How do you think they got along before the latest version was released?

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  11. Re:Wrong (?) by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

    He said "Linux is not in the public domain. Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. That's the way that the license works." [1].

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  12. Not a good day to Zune by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Most days yes, but on that one day a year on a leap year it's the classic example of an utterly stupid newbie mistake that would have failed a high school programming assignment in 1985.
    Files with an expiry date beyond which the music would not play meant it needed to know the date so a calendar was thrown in as an afterthought without even the most simple tests being applied - so on the last day of leap year the Zune would not work at all. A failure so epic that it is one for the textbooks and will be remembered long after anything else about the Zune.