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Obama Administration To Offer Full Position On Encryption By End of Year

blottsie writes with this story from The Daily Dot that the President met with encryption advocates on Thursday and is expected to make a statement on his official stance before the end of the year. From the story: "The Obama administration plans to clarify its stance on strong encryption before Washington shuts down for the holidays. Administration officials met Thursday with the civil-society groups behind a petition urging the White House to back strong, end-to-end encryption over the objections of some law-enforcement and intelligence professionals. Kevin Bankston, director of New America's Open Technology Institute and the coalition's organizer, told the Daily Dot that it was a 'very hopeful meeting.'"

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  1. Does it matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does it matter what his position is? Its not like he can outlaw it and enforce it, its not like Congress is going to work with him after all the name calling he has directed at them over the years. Even if he does come up with something "reasonable" why would anyone else care at this point? His administration lies constantly and he has shown the NSA can't be trusted.

    I can't think of a policy position on anything that will have less impact than this will.

    1. Re:Does it matter? by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Call me when Microsoft adds provably secure messaging to Windows by default (ie. no man-in-the-middle attack possible).

      When that happens I'll believe the USA has relaxed its position on encryption.

      Until then? It's all just hot air and political posturing.

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  2. Full position? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Where's the goatse URL when you need it? "Open wide, America!!"

    This administration has been a sad, pitiful disappointment on civil liberties, constitutional rights, and even intelligible economic and foreign policy. They've been so busy getting "consensus" on everything they've only succeeded in not being as bad as Shrub.

  3. I can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think I have anything to contribute to the discussion, but I'm waiting for our President, Barack Hussein Obama, to let us know what his stance is on this important argument so that I may follow. I understand those are very hard and complicated matters and that we citizens cannot possibily expect to have the scope and understanding to do anything but being led, and we are grateful for President Obama's leadership. I have never been, I am not and I will never be a malcontent and I have never and will never utter a word that could be perceived as seditious or treasonous against this Great Nation and its Great Leader.

  4. Who cares what the fuck he says? by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First amendment, motherfucker. If the government doesn't want me to use strong encryption, they can go pound sand up their asses.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Who cares what the fuck he says? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Over 20 years ago, the government declared encryption to be a munition.

      So not only does encryption get First and Fourth Amendment protection, it gets Second Amendment protection as well.

    2. Re:Who cares what the fuck he says? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, the real reason it doesn't matter is because we will have a new president 14 months from now who will most likely have a completely different position on encryption.

      Nonsense. Whoever is president 14 months from now will have exactly the same position on encryption. And the same position on the Middle East and the same position on Afghanistan and Iraq and "free trade" and...

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  5. The government needs full access...trust us by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trust us to not misuse the data.
    Trust us to act according to the Constitution, even though there is absolutely no oversight to make us.
    Trust us to secure the data so it can't be hacked.
    Trust us to never use any of it as evidence against you, since it was obtained without a warrant.
    Trust us to never use it to blackmail you.

    Trust us, we're your government.

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  6. Mass Internet Surveillance is Useless by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Terrorist attacks not stopped by mass internet surveillance:

    Boston Bombers. Downloaded a terrorist publication containing bomb plans from the Internet, tweeted about upcoming attacks in coded language.

    Anders Breivik: Discussed violent extremist leanings online

    November 2015 France attackers: Spoke freely about their plans in plaintext SMS

    2015 San Bernadino Shooters: Met and discussed jihadist leanings through various social media.

    Even if you put the horrendous privacy issues aside, this shit clearly doesn't work. Shut it down.

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  7. Re:If he says its OK by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will it make a difference? The horse has already bolted. Encryption exists.

    Not that it's needed, I can say "The fish is in the wolf" on national TV and the FBI won't know when the attack will happen.

    Nope. This is just about not letting encryption happen by default on all our messaging. It's espionage, it's political control, it's subversion of democracy.

    (ie. the people in power know what's trending after last night's presidential speech, the opposition doesn't).

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  8. May the Fourth Be With You by Scarletdown · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only position to be considered is already encapsulated in the 4th Amendment of the United States Constitution, specifically the first portion...

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,

    Your data, even though it is stored electronically, falls under the papers portion of the above line.

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